Influx of non-San Franciscans living on SF streets, data shows

[useapen]

SAN FRANCISCO (KRON) — Mayor London Breed issued a “Journey Home”
executive directive on Thursday vowing to prioritize “relocation support”
that will move more people experiencing homelessness, or suffering from
drug addiction, out of San Francisco.

The directive requires all city departments and staff to offer relocation
services before providing any other city services, including housing and
shelter.

Journey Home offers travel assistance and temporary shelter for people
experiencing homelessness and people with substance use disorders.

The City’s 2024 Point-in-Time homeless census found that San Francisco is
experiencing an influx of people who are moving into the city with nowhere
to live.

Of the unsheltered people surveyed as part of the 2024 PIT Count in San
Francisco:

40% responded that they arrived from another California county, or out of
state — up from 28% in 2019.

37% said they had been living in San Francisco for less than a year when
they became homeless, up from just 15% in 2019.

People who had lived in SF for 10 or more years before becoming homeless
dropped to 14% of the homeless population — down from 43% in 2019.

The mayor said, “While we will always lead with compassion and we have
made significant expansions in housing and shelter, we cannot solve
everyone’s individual housing and behavioral health needs. We’ve made
significant progress in housing many long-time San Franciscans who became
homeless, but we are seeing an increase in people in our data who are
coming from elsewhere. Today’s order will ensure that all our city
departments are leveraging our relocation programs to address this growing
trend.”

Breed said her directive provides clear guidance to all staff members of
the Department of Homelessness and Supportive Housing (HSH), Human
Services Agency (HSA), and Department
of Public Health (DPH).

Family from Kansas City finds missing son in San Francisco
“Relocation and reunification services are a critical component of our
Homelessness Response

System,” HSH executive director Shireen McSpadden said. “This
compassionate and effective resource in our system has reconnected
thousands of people experiencing homelessness with their stabilizing
networks of family and friends.”

Since 2005, the city has provided relocation services through a program,
previously known as Homeward Bound, giving bus tickets for individuals in
need.

Journey Home expands on Homeward Bound with more relocation and
reunification services

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[Creon]

Post by useapen
https://www.kron4.com/news/bay-area/influx-of-non-san-franciscans-living-
on-sf-streets-data-shows/

This is a phenomenon in many California cities that offer services.

The problem is red state bastards don't take care of their own, so people
come to California, where they can get help.

Here in our city, we bought 3 hotels to shelter homeless. My
brother-in-law is a paramedic, and was one of the people working
to help these unfortunate souls get back on their feet. Many of them
have abuse disorders that can't be addressed without outside help.

The system is crammed. Even so, people who are still on the streets
are less likely to freeze to death in California.

You MAGA weirdos would have them live on the streets in squalor, with
no hope of recovery. Shame on you.

[pothead]

Post by Creon

Post by useapen
https://www.kron4.com/news/bay-area/influx-of-non-san-franciscans-living-
on-sf-streets-data-shows/

This is a phenomenon in many California cities that offer services.
The problem is red state bastards don't take care of their own, so people
come to California, where they can get help.
Here in our city, we bought 3 hotels to shelter homeless. My
brother-in-law is a paramedic, and was one of the people working
to help these unfortunate souls get back on their feet. Many of them
have abuse disorders that can't be addressed without outside help.
The system is crammed. Even so, people who are still on the streets
are less likely to freeze to death in California.
You MAGA weirdos would have them live on the streets in squalor, with
no hope of recovery. Shame on you.

1. Stop the illegal migration that the Biden/Harris administration started. A good start would be
reinstating the Trump policies, which were working, and adding to them.
Stop the free medical care, free phones, free housing, free education, free legal advice and so
forth.

2. Send the illegals back to their home country.

3. Take care of the US citizens, like the military veterans and people suffering under Bidenomics
first.

Why do progressives seem to take care of everyone other than legal US citizens first?
Why does America seem to come last under democrat administrations?

The system is way overloaded and this all started with Biden/Harris and them rolling out the red
carpet welcome mat to 10 million plus illegals.

Oh and SF like other so called sanctuary cities, like NYC for example, are only getting what they
deserve.
The sad part is that the honest, hard working taxpayers are going to be paying for the bills which
is one reason these type of cities are experiencing a mass exodus of people leaving.

[Bobbie Sellers]

Post by pothead

Post by Creon

Post by useapen
https://www.kron4.com/news/bay-area/influx-of-non-san-franciscans-living-
on-sf-streets-data-shows/

This is a phenomenon in many California cities that offer services.
The problem is red state bastards don't take care of their own, so people
come to California, where they can get help.
Here in our city, we bought 3 hotels to shelter homeless. My
brother-in-law is a paramedic, and was one of the people working
to help these unfortunate souls get back on their feet. Many of them
have abuse disorders that can't be addressed without outside help.
The system is crammed. Even so, people who are still on the streets
are less likely to freeze to death in California.
You MAGA weirdos would have them live on the streets in squalor, with
no hope of recovery. Shame on you.

1. Stop the illegal migration that the Biden/Harris administration started. A good start would be
reinstating the Trump policies, which were working, and adding to them.
Stop the free medical care, free phones, free housing, free education, free legal advice and so
forth.

Actually the Trump administration acted irresponsibly to
break up families and incarcerate inappropriately, children away from
their parents.
In addition it probably violate our International Treaty Obligations to
provide asylum seekers protection.

Post by pothead
2. Send the illegals back to their home country.

Which ones? The people who crossed illegally last week or the people
imported here at an early age and who are productive members of society
paying more taxes than Trump ever did or who do you mean to
send back where ever they came from?

Post by pothead
3. Take care of the US citizens, like the military veterans and people suffering under Bidenomics
first.

Trump never helped Veterans in any way as by his statements he
considers them "losers and suckers". Bidennomics so far is a greater
success than anything Trump did and unlike Trump Biden and Harris have
started real initiative to reduce foreign dependence on manufactured
products like the digital chips used in every sort of appliance,
automobiles and in computers like the one in front of you.

Post by pothead
Why do progressives seem to take care of everyone other than legal US citizens first?
Why does America seem to come last under democrat administrations?

You need to get better sources of information. I am a legal citizen
born in 1937 in the State of Washington and living on Social
Security in San Francisco. If the reactionary state governments usually
Republican would accept the Medicaid extensions and take care of their
poorest citizens properly you would see that the US Federal government
is very concerned with the welfare of every citizen and legal alien
present in the USA and its contiguous territories.

Post by pothead

Post by Creon
The system is way overloaded and this all started with Biden/Harris

and them rolling out the red

Post by pothead
carpet welcome mat to 10 million plus illegals.

It all started when the rich man Trump gave a tax break to other rich
people and threw the tax burden onto the back of the people making
far less money. It will be worse if he has a second term.

Post by pothead
Oh and SF like other so called sanctuary cities, like NYC for example, are only getting what they
deserve.

What do you think we are getting here? I live in San Francisco.
Our economy was disrupted by Covid-19 and work at home. Thousands of
people came into town by car, bus, trains, ferry boats and BART
to work in offices. Without those consumers, hundreds of businesses
providing them with sustenance could not pay the workers. The
workers could not afford to pay rent and even those with
savings, eventually had to leave the city to live with parents
or in places they could afford to live. Now you might be
referring to the deaths from Fentanyl overdose which are very
tragic but the whole opioid crisis was brought upon us by a
pharmaceutical company making slow release opiate drugs.
When the people using these drugs for pain relief could no longer
get prescription they went to the streets and overwhelmed the
illegal opiate supply so some bright entrepreneurial criminals
decided to give them Fentanyl which is very powerful. I believe
I had a fentanyl drug for surgery back some years. Shut down
my colon but not my appetite. That was painful and the laxative
was entirely distasteful.

Post by pothead
The sad part is that the honest, hard working taxpayers are going to be paying for the bills which
is one reason these type of cities are experiencing a mass exodus of people leaving.

Cities like San Francisco, Los Angeles, Chicago, New York City
contribute more taxes to the system and support more rural states with
reactionary governments. We do not care for reactionary governments
but the people who live there are American Citizens and deserve far
better than the State governments will allow them to have.

Remember abortions may be a convenience to the rich but to the poor
they may be life-saving procedures. The production of new human
persons is fraught with difficulties which people unfamiliar with
the medical details cannot begin to imagine.
As an example of what abortion restrictions have accomplished to
date:UNITED STATES HAS HIGHEST MATERNAL DEATH RATES

<https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2024/8/5/2260803/-UNITED-STATES-HAS-HIGHEST-MATERNAL-DEATH-RATES>

And in those states with abortion restriction the rate of
homicide by the intimate partners of pregnant women is starting to rise.

bliss - 87 YOA before you know it... How the years float by.

[Siri Cruise]

There's a law to let the president ignore asylum requests during
pandemics. That was used to reduce asylum requests, but the
non-asylum entries in two thousand miles of desert continued.

With COVID under control, the law cannot be used. By Biden. The
bill House Magoos rejected at the command of Don Felon, would let
the president reject asylum requestors if the influx was too high.
This would give Biden a tool similar to what Don Felon had. Magoos
rejected that because they don't want the border to be controlled.

Biden made an executive order to do what the law would have
allowed and asylum requests have dropped the way Magoos have been
demanding. Whether the EOs will survive judicial review will wait
until after the election.

Post by pothead
2. Send the illegals back to their home country.

    Which ones?  The people who crossed illegally last week or
the people imported here at an early age and who are productive
members of society paying more taxes than Trump ever did or who do

It costs a lot to bring a person from child to adult, and it is
the adult form that pays taxes to get a return on investment.
Magoos are anti-capitalists with no understanding of business.
They would rather celebrate their fear and bigotry then do the
smart thing.

I do not fear immigrants, but if they are deportable, that is the
law. But the Constitution requires due process which means an
immigration court hearing. Magoos refuse to pay for courts, so
immigrants remain until their hearing. Ted Cruz et al have stated
publicly they want immigration court backlogged so hearings cannot
be scheduled. They want this problem to campaign on their voters's
bigotry.

    Trump never helped Veterans in any way as by his statements
he considers them "losers and suckers".  Bidennomics so far is a

I feel we would have fewer wars if young adults were less willing
to fight wars for gray old men. But when break their bodies for
our profits, we should be obligated to help them out.

Post by pothead
Why do progressives seem to take care of everyone other than
legal US citizens first?
Why does America seem to come last under democrat administrations?

    You need to get better sources of information. I am a legal
citizen born in 1937 in the State of Washington and living on Social
Security in San Francisco.  If the reactionary state governments

Boo! Hiss! Santa Clara County!

usually
Republican would accept the Medicaid extensions and take care of their
poorest citizens properly you would see that the US Federal
government

Everybody who gets a salary in the US pays FICA regardless of
citizenship, residency status, immigration status. Citizenship
only gets us a tiny number of privileges.

Post by pothead
Oh and SF like other so called sanctuary cities, like NYC for
example, are only getting what they
deserve.

    What do you think we are getting here?  I live in San Francisco.
Our economy was disrupted by Covid-19 and work at home. Thousands
of people came into town by car, bus, trains, ferry boats and BART

California is a sanctuary state.

And justice for all.

    Remember abortions may be a convenience to the rich but to
the poor they may be life-saving procedures.  The production of
new human
persons is fraught with difficulties which people unfamiliar with
the medical details cannot begin to imagine.
    As an example of what abortion restrictions have accomplished to
date:UNITED STATES HAS HIGHEST MATERNAL DEATH RATES

Women never die in childbirth. That only happens third world shit
holes.

[Anonymous]

There's a law to let the president ignore asylum requests during pandemics. That
was used to reduce asylum requests, but the non-asylum entries in two thousand
miles of desert continued.
With COVID under control, the law cannot be used. By Biden. The bill House
Magoos rejected at the command of Don Felon, would let the president reject
asylum requestors if the influx was too high. This would give Biden a tool
similar to what Don Felon had. Magoos rejected that because they don't want the
border to be controlled.
Biden made an executive order to do what the law would have allowed and asylum
requests have dropped the way Magoos have been demanding. Whether the EOs will
survive judicial review will wait until after the election.

Post by pothead
2. Send the illegals back to their home country.

     Which ones?  The people who crossed illegally last week or the people
imported here at an early age and who are productive members of society paying
more taxes than Trump ever did or who do

It costs a lot to bring a person from child to adult, and it is the adult form
that pays taxes to get a return on investment. Magoos are anti-capitalists with
no understanding of business. They would rather celebrate their fear and bigotry
then do the smart thing.

But you're a Marxist terrorist.

That aside, capitalists import workers like Dubai does. That is NOT what is
happening here. "People" like you are importing subhumans to live on crime,
welfare, government jobs, and voting Democrat.

[Asa]

Post by Anonymous

Post by Siri Cruise
There's a law to let the president ignore asylum requests during
pandemics. That was used to reduce asylum requests, but the non-asylum
entries in two thousand miles of desert continued.
With COVID under control, the law cannot be used. By Biden. The bill
House Magoos rejected at the command of Don Felon, would let the
president reject asylum requestors if the influx was too high. This
would give Biden a tool similar to what Don Felon had. Magoos rejected
that because they don't want the border to be controlled.
Biden made an executive order to do what the law would have allowed
and asylum requests have dropped the way Magoos have been demanding.
Whether the EOs will survive judicial review will wait until after the
election.

Post by pothead
2. Send the illegals back to their home country.

     Which ones?  The people who crossed illegally last week or the
people imported here at an early age and who are productive members
of society paying more taxes than Trump ever did or who do

It costs a lot to bring a person from child to adult, and it is the
adult form that pays taxes to get a return on investment. Magoos are
anti-capitalists with no understanding of business. They would rather
celebrate their fear and bigotry then do the smart thing.

But you're a Marxist terrorist.
That aside, capitalists import workers like Dubai does. That is NOT what is
happening here. "People" like you are importing subhumans to live on crime,
welfare, government jobs, and voting Democrat.

That's exactly what they doing. However, many of those imports have
underlying conservative values so in effect, misguided liberals and
Democrats are cutting their own throats. In the meantime, we have to
put up with the problems of the criminal imported trash.

Where are the jobs these people are supposed to do? There are a lot of
unemployed American people and a disturbing number of the newer
generation simply refuse to work.

[Governor Swill]

Post by Asa
That's exactly what they doing. However, many of those imports have
underlying conservative values so in effect, misguided liberals and
Democrats are cutting their own throats. In the meantime, we have to
put up with the problems of the criminal imported trash.

Like all those English and Irish and Scots and Germans in the nineteenth century. They
RUINED the country!

Post by Asa
Where are the jobs these people are supposed to do?

Pick lettuce, mow lawns, carry bricks, dig ditches, make beds, wash dishes ...

Post by Asa
There are a lot of
unemployed American people and a disturbing number of the newer
generation simply refuse to work.

I had my heart set on a job at the car wash for eight bucks an hour but they gave it to
some wetback from Nicamuala or someplace like that.

#nevertrump

Outside the RNC:
I'm a Republican because of Jesus. I put Jesus first.
If the Democrats had the some priorities as Jesus, you'd vote Democrat? Clothing and
feeding people and healing the sick?
No, the bible says if you don't work you don't eat.

[Lil dwarf Rudey]

Post by Governor Swill
I had my heart set on a job at the car wash

YOUR DEATH THREATS AGAINST TRUMP ARE DOCUMENTED:



Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A Terrell/Al
Feldhauser/Malte Runz and a dozen other socks wrote:

Multiple death threats against Trump:
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No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to

thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently

Post by Governor Swill
is an important step to getting there.

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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:


https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
Notes
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(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.


https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

The United States Secret Service is conducting the investigation in this
case. The United States Attorney’s Office, District of Arizona, is
handling the prosecution.


Those can be reported here:

https://tips.fbi.gov/home

https://www.justice.gov/action-center/report-crime-or-submit-complaint

https://www.secretservice.gov/contact

https://www.dhs.gov/see-something-say-something/reporting/california


Fellow citizens, won't you join in ending Rudey's terrorism here?

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[Bobbie Sellers]

Post by Governor Swill

Post by Asa
That's exactly what they doing. However, many of those imports have
underlying conservative values so in effect, misguided liberals and
Democrats are cutting their own throats. In the meantime, we have to
put up with the problems of the criminal imported trash.

Like all those English and Irish and Scots and Germans in the nineteenth century. They
RUINED the country!

`Well they are Northern European and nearly the same stock that
began Westward expansion, displacing the origian occupants.

Post by Governor Swill

Post by Asa
Where are the jobs these people are supposed to do?

Pick lettuce, mow lawns, carry bricks, dig ditches, make beds, wash dishes ...

Care for the long term patients in such facilites. They do a good job
too.

Post by Governor Swill

Post by Asa
There are a lot of
unemployed American people and a disturbing number of the newer
generation simply refuse to work.

I had my heart set on a job at the car wash for eight bucks an hour but they gave it to
some wetback from Nicamuala or someplace like that.
#nevertrump
I'm a Republican because of Jesus. I put Jesus first.
If the Democrats had the some priorities as Jesus, you'd vote Democrat? Clothing and
feeding people and healing the sick?
No, the bible says if you don't work you don't eat.

So you do not believe in Jesus but in the whole Bible?
The first half is Jewish mythology but the Jews are divided
as to how seriously every word, jot ant titel is too be taken which is
why you have Reform, Conservative, Orthodox and Ultra-Orthodox as well
as those following a particular Rabbi like Smerson(sic).

The second half is Christian Mythology involving the alleged
Christ aka Jesus by Christian and Jesua ben Miriam by Jews who consider
him a prophet. but it is all mythology written as much as
100 years or more after the fact by people who never knew Jesus.

Indeed a large part of the New Testament is concerned with the letters
of one Paul, a Jewish convert traveling when he suffers a peak
experience and is asked by a bright force "why do you persecute me?".

He starts what we know as Christianity as a result. Other parts deal
with the fate of other disciples and the anti-Roman visions of one
John of Patmos. But it is all myth just like vampire and zombies.
People kill each other over myths all the time these days and
we have many more myths in this world.

bliss

[Chips Loral]

Post by Bobbie Sellers
People kill each other over myths all the time these days and
we have many more myths in this world.

Like transgenderism.

[Bobbie Sellers]

Post by Chips Loral

Post by Bobbie Sellers
People kill each other over myths all the time these days and
we have many more myths in this world.

Like transgenderism.

I was thinking more of the Buddhist versus Muslim,
Hindu versus Muslim, Judaism versus Muslim, Christian
myth versus all others, Marxism, Fascism, and the idea
that one nation is somehow, despite its faults, superior
to all others. Oh yes and somehow that when were young
life was more perfect. It was not but we were young and
easily misled.


You consider it a myth but it is a living demonstration of
the power of the spirit if not the soul. What is a myth is
that there is some magical movement to convert "normal"
children to Transgender children. Transgender children
tell others that they are not a boy but a girl or
a boy not a girl as one had assumed from bodily configuration.

What there is a lot of purient attempts to deny
the reality of lived experience. Things have not much
improved in many places in the last 80 years when prudery
was rife, no sexual education was taught in schools but
relegated to the parent who might be full of misinformation
or the equally confused peers.

This made children prey for the child abusers, human
trafficers, which is not a new thing and the spreading of illness
both physical and mental.
Due to the effects of sexual and emotional abuse as well
as physical abuse it increased the number of children who grow
up to be abusers.
I think that the major opponents of youthful sex education
are people who want to keep the children handy to abuse not informed
about the possibilty.

bliss

[Chips Loral]

Post by Bobbie Sellers
I think that the major opponents of youthful sex education
are people who want to keep the children handy to abuse

I think you are severely brain-damaged goods, Blobbie.

[Bobbie Sellers]

Post by Chips Loral

Post by Bobbie Sellers
I think that the major opponents of youthful sex education
are people who want to keep the children handy to abuse

I think you are severely brain-damaged goods, Blobbie.

While that is indeed possible I think that if you
oppose sex education from an early age you may be
a pedophile. Don't bother to deny it.

At 87 yoa I am not your next victim.

bliss

[Chips Loral]

Post by Bobbie Sellers
I am not your next victim.

I have no "next victim", ya head case.

[Governor Swill]

Post by Bobbie Sellers

Post by Governor Swill

Post by Asa
That's exactly what they doing. However, many of those imports have
underlying conservative values so in effect, misguided liberals and
Democrats are cutting their own throats. In the meantime, we have to
put up with the problems of the criminal imported trash.

Like all those English and Irish and Scots and Germans in the nineteenth century. They
RUINED the country!

`Well they are Northern European and nearly the same stock that
began Westward expansion, displacing the origian occupants.

Post by Governor Swill

Post by Asa
Where are the jobs these people are supposed to do?

Pick lettuce, mow lawns, carry bricks, dig ditches, make beds, wash dishes ...

Care for the long term patients in such facilites. They do a good job
too.

Post by Governor Swill

Post by Asa
There are a lot of
unemployed American people and a disturbing number of the newer
generation simply refuse to work.

I had my heart set on a job at the car wash for eight bucks an hour but they gave it to
some wetback from Nicamuala or someplace like that.
#nevertrump
I'm a Republican because of Jesus. I put Jesus first.
If the Democrats had the some priorities as Jesus, you'd vote Democrat? Clothing and
feeding people and healing the sick?
No, the bible says if you don't work you don't eat.

So you do not believe in Jesus but in the whole Bible?

I should have been more clear. That was a conversation between a MAGA attendee at RNC and
an interviewer.

Outside the RNC:
MAGA: I'm a Republican because of Jesus. I put Jesus first.
Interviewer: If the Democrats had the some priorities as Jesus, you'd vote Democrat?
Clothing and feeding people and healing the sick?
MAGA: No, the bible says if you don't work you don't eat.

Post by Bobbie Sellers
The first half is Jewish mythology but the Jews are divided
as to how seriously every word, jot ant titel is too be taken which is
why you have Reform, Conservative, Orthodox and Ultra-Orthodox as well
as those following a particular Rabbi like Smerson(sic).
The second half is Christian Mythology involving the alleged
Christ aka Jesus by Christian and Jesua ben Miriam by Jews who consider
him a prophet. but it is all mythology written as much as
100 years or more after the fact by people who never knew Jesus.
Indeed a large part of the New Testament is concerned with the letters
of one Paul, a Jewish convert traveling when he suffers a peak
experience and is asked by a bright force "why do you persecute me?".
He starts what we know as Christianity as a result. Other parts deal
with the fate of other disciples and the anti-Roman visions of one
John of Patmos. But it is all myth just like vampire and zombies.
People kill each other over myths all the time these days and
we have many more myths in this world.
bliss

#nevertrump
Colbert on Trump: Trump is like an open book but the book has only one page with "ME!"
written on it in crayon.

[Lil dwarf Rudey]

Post by Governor Swill
Pick lettuce, mow lawns, carry bricks

YOUR DEATH THREATS AGAINST TRUMP ARE DOCUMENTED:



Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A Terrell/Al
Feldhauser/Malte Runz and a dozen other socks wrote:

Multiple death threats against Trump:
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thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently

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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:


https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
Notes
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(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.


https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

The United States Secret Service is conducting the investigation in this
case. The United States Attorney’s Office, District of Arizona, is
handling the prosecution.


Those can be reported here:

https://tips.fbi.gov/home

https://www.justice.gov/action-center/report-crime-or-submit-complaint

https://www.secretservice.gov/contact

https://www.dhs.gov/see-something-say-something/reporting/california


Fellow citizens, won't you join in ending Rudey's terrorism here?

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[Governor Swill]

Post by Anonymous
That aside, capitalists import workers like Dubai does. That is NOT what is
happening here. "People" like you are importing subhumans to live on crime,
welfare, government jobs, and voting Democrat.

Maga think Outside a Trump rally in NJ:
Immigrants are taking all our jobs / The immigrants don't want to work.

#nevertrump

So a Republican gets shot by a registered Republican using a gun that Democrats tried to
ban and somehow it's the Democrats' fault?

[Lil dwarf Rudey]

Post by Governor Swill
it's the Democrats' fault?

YOUR DEATH THREATS AGAINST TRUMP ARE DOCUMENTED:



Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A Terrell/Al
Feldhauser/Malte Runz and a dozen other socks wrote:

Multiple death threats against Trump:
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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:


https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
Notes
prev | next
(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.


https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

The United States Secret Service is conducting the investigation in this
case. The United States Attorney’s Office, District of Arizona, is
handling the prosecution.


Those can be reported here:

https://tips.fbi.gov/home

https://www.justice.gov/action-center/report-crime-or-submit-complaint

https://www.secretservice.gov/contact

https://www.dhs.gov/see-something-say-something/reporting/california


Fellow citizens, won't you join in ending Rudey's terrorism here?

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[Bobbie Sellers]

Post by Governor Swill

Post by Anonymous
That aside, capitalists import workers like Dubai does. That is NOT what is
happening here. "People" like you are importing subhumans to live on crime,
welfare, government jobs, and voting Democrat.

There are no subhumans only prejudiced and bigoted humans like
your Anonymous writer. Trump uses these Fascistic tropes to describe
people that are far superior to himself.

Post by Governor Swill
Immigrants are taking all our jobs / The immigrants don't want to work.

They want by and large the jobs the American Trump supporter
would never take. They want to send the children of the poor to do
these jobs during the years they should be in High School. The
jobs are dangerous by and large such as work in a chicken processing
plant with dangerous machines.

Post by Governor Swill
#nevertrump
So a Republican gets shot by a registered Republican using a gun that Democrats tried to
ban and somehow it's the Democrats' fault?

Were the Secret Service registered Republicans or Democrats? But the SS
were told earlier to put a man on the roof from which the shooter
shot. They ignore local wisdom and #45 lost a bit of ear and another
man, his life. Thomas Crooks was not even a good enough shot tor his
HS Rifle Team. He proved the Rifle Team assessment with his preformacce
on that day.

bliss

[Chips Loral]

Post by Governor Swill
Immigrants are taking all our jobs / The immigrants don't want to work.

    They want by and large the jobs the American Trump supporter
would never take.

So why aren't they taking those jobs, Blobbie?

No one can even find them now.

[Bobbie Sellers]

Post by Chips Loral

Post by Governor Swill
Immigrants are taking all our jobs / The immigrants don't want to work.

     They want by and large the jobs the American Trump supporter
would never take.

So why aren't they taking those jobs, Blobbie?
No one can even find them now.

Well apparently they find hard field work such as black people
enslaved and free but under the Black Codes aka Jim Crow were forced
to do. Generally it is hard cultivating and harvesting crops of all
sorts from lettuce to fruit. I remember in California the use of the
short handled hoe was the subject of controversy. Hoeing the crops,
Weeding the crops and harvesting if done in the sun light were very
tiring. Inhaling the fumes and particles that had been crop dusted
onto the crops to try to keep the insect damage down was not good
for the Braceros. Frequently it was families from the time the child
was old enough until if lucky they could start schooling. Farm owners
were resistant to providing sanitation and water during the picking
seasons.
Since the California farmers could not use slaves they used
immigrant labor from over the nearest border. Without the low cost
labor prices to the ultimate consumer would soar.
Now you ask the MAGAns why they don't take the Braceros
jobs?

I am very pale-skinned which might have been called peaches
and cream before I got exposed to sunlight but then became freckled
and before I hit 40 I had pre-squamous cell carcinoma on my face.
At 60 despite removal of most of these pre-cancerous lesions I
had a fairly large cancerous lesion which was surgically removed.
And if i had done farm work in the field the lesions would have
been larger and more frequent. So having been sunburned as a child
and having some medical knowledge from my training as a hospital
corps person in the USN I attempted to minimize my expose to the
rays of old Sol. So some Trumpites may fell but i bet they feel
that that field work is beneath them.
But feel free to verify my speculations by talking
to the MAGA and QAnon people.

bliss

[Governor Swill]

Post by Bobbie Sellers

Post by Governor Swill

Post by Anonymous
That aside, capitalists import workers like Dubai does. That is NOT what is
happening here. "People" like you are importing subhumans to live on crime,
welfare, government jobs, and voting Democrat.

There are no subhumans only prejudiced and bigoted humans like
your Anonymous writer. Trump uses these Fascistic tropes to describe
people that are far superior to himself.

Post by Governor Swill
Immigrants are taking all our jobs / The immigrants don't want to work.

They want by and large the jobs the American Trump supporter
would never take. They want to send the children of the poor

Exactly, poor *white* kids should be taking those crap jobs. Trouble is, there aren't
enough of them. I remember when High School students had real jobs. The pimple faced
teenager who used to flip burgers at MickeyDs has been replaced by a Hispanic dad with a
working wife and two kids.

Post by Bobbie Sellers
to do
these jobs during the years they should be in High School. The
jobs are dangerous by and large such as work in a chicken processing
plant with dangerous machines.

Post by Governor Swill
#nevertrump
So a Republican gets shot by a registered Republican using a gun that Democrats tried to
ban and somehow it's the Democrats' fault?

Were the Secret Service registered Republicans or Democrats? But the SS
were told earlier to put a man on the roof from which the shooter
shot. They ignore local wisdom and #45 lost a bit of ear and another
man, his life. Thomas Crooks was not even a good enough shot tor his
HS Rifle Team. He proved the Rifle Team assessment with his preformacce
on that day.
bliss

Actually, Crooks was a pretty good shot. He missed his target at that distance by less
than two inches using a gun not noted for sniper accuracy that had not been sighted in.
And at that, only because Trump turned his head at that exact moment.

#nevertrump

[Lil dwarf Rudey]

Post by Governor Swill
Crooks was a pretty good shot.

YOUR DEATH THREATS AGAINST TRUMP ARE DOCUMENTED:



Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A Terrell/Al
Feldhauser/Malte Runz and a dozen other socks wrote:

Multiple death threats against Trump:
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thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently

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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:


https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
Notes
prev | next
(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.


https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

The United States Secret Service is conducting the investigation in this
case. The United States Attorney’s Office, District of Arizona, is
handling the prosecution.


Those can be reported here:

https://tips.fbi.gov/home

https://www.justice.gov/action-center/report-crime-or-submit-complaint

https://www.secretservice.gov/contact

https://www.dhs.gov/see-something-say-something/reporting/california


Fellow citizens, won't you join in ending Rudey's terrorism here?

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[Lil dwarf Rudey]

Post by Governor Swill
it's the Democrats' fault

YOUR DEATH THREATS AGAINST TRUMP ARE DOCUMENTED:



Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A Terrell/Al
Feldhauser/Malte Runz and a dozen other socks wrote:

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No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to

thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently

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is an important step to getting there.

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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:


https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
Notes
prev | next
(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.


https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

The United States Secret Service is conducting the investigation in this
case. The United States Attorney’s Office, District of Arizona, is
handling the prosecution.


Those can be reported here:

https://tips.fbi.gov/home

https://www.justice.gov/action-center/report-crime-or-submit-complaint

https://www.secretservice.gov/contact

https://www.dhs.gov/see-something-say-something/reporting/california


Fellow citizens, won't you join in ending Rudey's terrorism here?

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On 8/9/2024 8:59 PM, Anony-Mouse, bullshitting Nazi faggot cocksucker,

Post by Anonymous

Post by Siri Cruise
There's a law to let the president ignore asylum requests during

pandemics.

Post by Anonymous

Post by Siri Cruise
That was used to reduce asylum requests, but the non-asylum entries in

two

Post by Anonymous

Post by Siri Cruise
thousand miles of desert continued.
With COVID under control, the law cannot be used. By Biden. The bill House
Magoos rejected at the command of Don Felon, would let the president reject
asylum requestors if the influx was too high. This would give Biden a tool
similar to what Don Felon had. Magoos rejected that because they don't

want

Post by Anonymous

Post by Siri Cruise
the border to be controlled.
Biden made an executive order to do what the law would have allowed and asylum
requests have dropped the way Magoos have been demanding. Whether the EOs will
survive judicial review will wait until after the election.

Post by pothead
2. Send the illegals back to their home country.

     Which ones?  The people who crossed illegally last week or

the people

Post by Anonymous

Post by Siri Cruise

imported here at an early age and who are productive members of society
paying more taxes than Trump ever did or who do

It costs a lot to bring a person from child to adult, and it is the adult form
that pays taxes to get a return on investment. Magoos are anti-

capitalists

Post by Anonymous

Post by Siri Cruise
with no understanding of business. They would rather celebrate their

fear and

Post by Anonymous

Post by Siri Cruise
bigotry then do the smart thing.

But you're a Marxist terrorist.

He's not. But you're a cocksucking shit-4-braincell fascist faggot on the

cull

list, and your time is *very* short.
Don't even bother with your misidentification, faggot. You *know* you're

wrong.

Are your hemorrhoids acting up, Rudy? You seem a little "short" today.

[pothead]

Post by Bobbie Sellers

Post by pothead

Post by Creon

Post by useapen
https://www.kron4.com/news/bay-area/influx-of-non-san-franciscans-living-
on-sf-streets-data-shows/

This is a phenomenon in many California cities that offer services.
The problem is red state bastards don't take care of their own, so people
come to California, where they can get help.
Here in our city, we bought 3 hotels to shelter homeless. My
brother-in-law is a paramedic, and was one of the people working
to help these unfortunate souls get back on their feet. Many of them
have abuse disorders that can't be addressed without outside help.
The system is crammed. Even so, people who are still on the streets
are less likely to freeze to death in California.
You MAGA weirdos would have them live on the streets in squalor, with
no hope of recovery. Shame on you.

1. Stop the illegal migration that the Biden/Harris administration started. A good start would be
reinstating the Trump policies, which were working, and adding to them.
Stop the free medical care, free phones, free housing, free education, free legal advice and so
forth.

Actually the Trump administration acted irresponsibly to
break up families and incarcerate inappropriately, children away from
their parents.
In addition it probably violate our International Treaty Obligations to
provide asylum seekers protection.

They shouldn't be here in the first place.
BTW, it was Obama who constructed cages for the kids.
And right now, under Biden Harris, lost migrant children numbers have soared.

<https://www.kpbs.org/news/border-immigration/2024/07/29/report-reveals-migrant-family-separations-
continue-under-biden>

<https://www.newsweek.com/under-joe-biden-undocumented-children-missing-1812728>

( a year old BTW)

Post by Bobbie Sellers

Post by pothead
2. Send the illegals back to their home country.

Which ones? The people who crossed illegally last week or the people
imported here at an early age and who are productive members of society
paying more taxes than Trump ever did or who do you mean to
send back where ever they came from?

All of them.
Start with the got away migrants, known terrorists, and those arrested in US for committing serious
crimes.
We have to start somewhere.
BTW, you do realize that these migrants are coached, given a script to follow when questioned,
don't you?

Post by Bobbie Sellers

Post by pothead
3. Take care of the US citizens, like the military veterans and people suffering under Bidenomics
first.

Trump never helped Veterans in any way as by his statements he
considers them "losers and suckers". Bidennomics so far is a greater
success than anything Trump did and unlike Trump Biden and Harris have
started real initiative to reduce foreign dependence on manufactured
products like the digital chips used in every sort of appliance,
automobiles and in computers like the one in front of you.

Yea.
And Biden also increased our dependence on foreign oil, raw materials for batteries, solar panels
and so forth.
As for the chip act, which I agree with BTW, Biden has torpedoed himself by the addition of DEI
into the offer/deal.
Not popular at all.

As for veterans, the mass illegal migration has seen veterans and seniors evicted from housing in
order to make room for migrants.
<https://nypost.com/2023/05/13/outrage-grows-over-vets-evicted-from-hotels-to-house-migrants/>




<https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/biden-s-dei-rules-are-worse-than-hamas-top-microchip-makers
-are-postponing-us-expansion-and-instead-expanding-in-dangerous-israel-and-russia-because-american-
grants-come-with-so-many-equity-caveats/ar-BB1jC2pI>

''Biden's DEI rules are worse than HAMAS': Top microchip makers are postponing US expansion and
instead expanding in dangerous Israel and Russia because American grants come with so many 'equity''

Post by Bobbie Sellers

Post by pothead
Why do progressives seem to take care of everyone other than legal US citizens first?
Why does America seem to come last under democrat administrations?

You need to get better sources of information. I am a legal citizen
born in 1937 in the State of Washington and living on Social
Security in San Francisco. If the reactionary state governments usually
Republican would accept the Medicaid extensions and take care of their
poorest citizens properly you would see that the US Federal government
is very concerned with the welfare of every citizen and legal alien
present in the USA and its contiguous territories.

lol!
Your sample of one means nothing.

Take care of the citizens FIRST.

BTW, do you get FREE medical care?
A FREE cellphone?
FREE housing?
FREE laundry service? (Move to NYC for that one)
FREE education?

While I agree our healthcare and retirement system is a mess and in need of an overhaul I also see
the massive influx of illegal migrants as a major part of the problem.
The citizens who have worked, paid taxes and so forth should be taken care of first.

Post by Bobbie Sellers

Post by pothead

Post by Creon
The system is way overloaded and this all started with Biden/Harris

and them rolling out the red

Post by pothead
carpet welcome mat to 10 million plus illegals.

It all started when the rich man Trump gave a tax break to other rich
people and threw the tax burden onto the back of the people making
far less money. It will be worse if he has a second term.

Hahaha!
You are SOOOOO misguided.
Corporations create jobs. Illegal migrants are a drain on society.
Ask 10 people on the street if they are better off now than under Trump and see what happens.
BTW, I don't see millionaires sneaking across the border.
Do you?
Did you know that Harris wants to increase the tax rate to some 35% ?

The economy under Trump flourished despite COVID.
Under Biden/Harris it's a disaster and people are suffering.

Post by Bobbie Sellers

Post by pothead
Oh and SF like other so called sanctuary cities, like NYC for example, are only getting what they
deserve.

What do you think we are getting here? I live in San Francisco.
Our economy was disrupted by Covid-19 and work at home. Thousands of
people came into town by car, bus, trains, ferry boats and BART
to work in offices. Without those consumers, hundreds of businesses
providing them with sustenance could not pay the workers. The
workers could not afford to pay rent and even those with
savings, eventually had to leave the city to live with parents
or in places they could afford to live. Now you might be
referring to the deaths from Fentanyl overdose which are very
tragic but the whole opioid crisis was brought upon us by a
pharmaceutical company making slow release opiate drugs.
When the people using these drugs for pain relief could no longer
get prescription they went to the streets and overwhelmed the
illegal opiate supply so some bright entrepreneurial criminals
decided to give them Fentanyl which is very powerful. I believe
I had a fentanyl drug for surgery back some years. Shut down
my colon but not my appetite. That was painful and the laxative
was entirely distasteful.

Post by pothead
The sad part is that the honest, hard working taxpayers are going to be paying for the bills which
is one reason these type of cities are experiencing a mass exodus of people leaving.

Cities like San Francisco, Los Angeles, Chicago, New York City
contribute more taxes to the system and support more rural states with
reactionary governments. We do not care for reactionary governments
but the people who live there are American Citizens and deserve far
better than the State governments will allow them to have.

So you are for government handouts?
You'll love it over in China, Russia, Venezuala or any of the other pseudo Marxist regimes.

Post by Bobbie Sellers
Remember abortions may be a convenience to the rich but to the poor
they may be life-saving procedures. The production of new human
persons is fraught with difficulties which people unfamiliar with
the medical details cannot begin to imagine.
As an example of what abortion restrictions have accomplished to
date:UNITED STATES HAS HIGHEST MATERNAL DEATH RATES
<https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2024/8/5/2260803/-UNITED-STATES-HAS-HIGHEST-MATERNAL-DEATH-RATES>
And in those states with abortion restriction the rate of
homicide by the intimate partners of pregnant women is starting to rise.
bliss - 87 YOA before you know it... How the years float by.

Abortions are destroying the minority, mostly black, culture.
And defunding the police is also harming lower income neighborhoods far more than teh wealthy ones.

[Bobbie Sellers]

Post by pothead

Post by Bobbie Sellers

Post by pothead

Post by Creon

Post by useapen
https://www.kron4.com/news/bay-area/influx-of-non-san-franciscans-living-
on-sf-streets-data-shows/

This is a phenomenon in many California cities that offer services.
The problem is red state bastards don't take care of their own, so people
come to California, where they can get help.
Here in our city, we bought 3 hotels to shelter homeless. My
brother-in-law is a paramedic, and was one of the people working
to help these unfortunate souls get back on their feet. Many of them
have abuse disorders that can't be addressed without outside help.
The system is crammed. Even so, people who are still on the streets
are less likely to freeze to death in California.
You MAGA weirdos would have them live on the streets in squalor, with
no hope of recovery. Shame on you.

1. Stop the illegal migration that the Biden/Harris administration started. A good start would be
reinstating the Trump policies, which were working, and adding to them.
Stop the free medical care, free phones, free housing, free education, free legal advice and so
forth.

Actually the Trump administration acted irresponsibly to
break up families and incarcerate inappropriately, children away from
their parents.
In addition it probably violate our International Treaty Obligations to
provide asylum seekers protection.

They shouldn't be here in the first place.
BTW, it was Obama who constructed cages for the kids.
And right now, under Biden Harris, lost migrant children numbers have soared.
<https://www.kpbs.org/news/border-immigration/2024/07/29/report-reveals-migrant-family-separations-
continue-under-biden>
<https://www.newsweek.com/under-joe-biden-undocumented-children-missing-1812728>
( a year old BTW)

Post by Bobbie Sellers

Post by pothead
2. Send the illegals back to their home country.

Which ones? The people who crossed illegally last week or the people
imported here at an early age and who are productive members of society
paying more taxes than Trump ever did or who do you mean to
send back where ever they came from?

All of them.
Start with the got away migrants, known terrorists, and those arrested in US for committing serious
crimes.
We have to start somewhere.
BTW, you do realize that these migrants are coached, given a script to follow when questioned,
don't you?

Post by Bobbie Sellers

Post by pothead
3. Take care of the US citizens, like the military veterans and people suffering under Bidenomics
first.

Trump never helped Veterans in any way as by his statements he
considers them "losers and suckers". Bidennomics so far is a greater
success than anything Trump did and unlike Trump Biden and Harris have
started real initiative to reduce foreign dependence on manufactured
products like the digital chips used in every sort of appliance,
automobiles and in computers like the one in front of you.

Yea.
And Biden also increased our dependence on foreign oil, raw materials for batteries, solar panels
and so forth.

Actualy Under Biden more oil is being pumped.

Post by pothead
As for the chip act, which I agree with BTW, Biden has torpedoed himself by the addition of DEI
into the offer/deal.
Not popular at all.

Not with racists who are onlyu aboutt 10% of the US population outside
of the Losing Conferacy.

Post by pothead
As for veterans, the mass illegal migration has seen veterans and seniors evicted from housing in
order to make room for migrants.
<https://nypost.com/2023/05/13/outrage-grows-over-vets-evicted-from-hotels-to-house-migrants/>

Baloney. Veterans and othr fould are being evictged to build more
expensive multi-unit buildings or at least that is the part I see.
San Francisco bought hotels to provide accomodation for our unhoused
population of American and of San Francisco Citizens. That includeds
a lot of Veterans.

Post by pothead
<https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/biden-s-dei-rules-are-worse-than-hamas-top-microchip-makers
-are-postponing-us-expansion-and-instead-expanding-in-dangerous-israel-and-russia-because-american-
grants-come-with-so-many-equity-caveats/ar-BB1jC2pI>
''Biden's DEI rules are worse than HAMAS': Top microchip makers are postponing US expansion and
instead expanding in dangerous Israel and Russia because American grants come with so many 'equity''

` Why would they do that? As a matter of Fact Prominent chip maker
Intel is laying off 15,000 workers world wide. Why would they build in
a war zone rather than in Iowa, Oklahoma or Alabama

Post by pothead

Post by Bobbie Sellers

Post by pothead
Why do progressives seem to take care of everyone other than legal US citizens first?
Why does America seem to come last under democrat administrations?

You need to get better sources of information. I am a legal citizen
born in 1937 in the State of Washington and living on Social
Security in San Francisco. If the reactionary state governments usually
Republican would accept the Medicaid extensions and take care of their
poorest citizens properly you would see that the US Federal government
is very concerned with the welfare of every citizen and legal alien
present in the USA and its contiguous territories.

lol!
Your sample of one means nothing.
Take care of the citizens FIRST.
BTW, do you get FREE medical care?

not quite.

Post by pothead
A FREE cellphone?

not quite

Post by pothead
FREE housing?

I have been paying for the apartment from day 1

Post by pothead
FREE laundry service? (Move to NYC for that one)

You may be true but what about it.

Post by pothead
FREE education?

Until High School when my lapsed Catholic step-father
insisted on send me to a Catholic HS and the cost in the 1950s
was about $100/year aside from the contributions to good (i.e.
Catholic ideas of) causes. They allowed antisemitism to be preached.

Post by pothead
While I agree our healthcare and retirement system is a mess and in need of an overhaul I also see
the massive influx of illegal migrants as a major part of the problem.
The citizens who have worked, paid taxes and so forth should be taken care of first.

No Our retirement system by which I refer to Social Security is in fine
shape because recipients like myself are constantly dying. Our
Healthcare system is in rotten shape because the Republicans and #45
refuse to take the steps to increase its funding. I think that Social
security taxes should be extended to the very well-compensated because
with all the Republican-allowed economic crashes they never know when
we might have to provide them with the basic support that Social
Security offers. The private parts of our retirement system used by
many good citizens suffers whenever the economy slows down as it
did in 2008 and previous boom-resolutions. By the way the people
who lost their retirement and homes in the 2008 debacle were not
compensated because Obama directed the bailout at the institutions
which were responsible. Or maybe that was all he could get done
with the support of the Congressional Republicans and the
Corporate Democrats.

Our Healthcare system should be single payer & tax-supported
but the Republicans resist expanding Medicaid when funding is offered.
The results are disastrous for those living in Republican-dominated
states

Post by pothead

Post by Bobbie Sellers

Post by pothead

Post by Creon
The system is way overloaded and this all started with Biden/Harris

and them rolling out the red

Post by pothead
carpet welcome mat to 10 million plus illegals.

It started when #45 was elected and pretended to be presidential
for 4 years. His tax cuts are just the most obvious example and most
of the cuts when to his own economic class(not that #45 has any class).

Post by pothead

Post by Bobbie Sellers
It all started when the rich man Trump gave a tax break to other rich
people and threw the tax burden onto the back of the people making
far less money. It will be worse if he has a second term.

Hahaha!
You are SOOOOO misguided.
Corporations create jobs. Illegal migrants are a drain on society.

Illegal migrants mostly harvest crops and do work that
American citizens reject. Corporations when small do create some
jobs but as soon as they can they automate as much as they can
because machines do not get sick or ask for raises (yet).

Post by pothead
Ask 10 people on the street if they are better off now than under Trump and see what happens.
BTW, I don't see millionaires sneaking across the border.

No, billionaires sneak money across borders and buy extra
homes in other nations as well as very expensive yachts. They
also hide profits from other nations in offshore accounts to
avoid paying their fair share of taxes in the USA. The Republicans,
influenced, by Grover Norquist are generally against taxation of
the rich and deny funding to the IRS which might be used to
discover the rich tax evaders.

Post by pothead
Do you?
Did you know that Harris wants to increase the tax rate to some 35% ?

Yes the taxes would go up on people making more that 400,000/year. No
one else would have their taxes raised.
I think we should put a COLA or inflation index on that $400,000 raising
it ever inflationary year because of course with inflation even such
high wages will not buy as much.
$400,000 per year will in a few years get enough cash to put
a down payment on a decent home in San Francisco if you live frugally.

Post by pothead
The economy under Trump flourished despite COVID.
Under Biden/Harris it's a disaster and people are suffering.

Better see a doctor about your memory. My younger friends
lost their jobs under #45 because it prevented the spread of Covid.
Losing their jobs meant leaving San Francisco and finding relatives
or much cheaper accommodations.

Post by pothead

Post by Bobbie Sellers

Post by pothead
Oh and SF like other so called sanctuary cities, like NYC for example, are only getting what they
deserve.

What do you think we are getting here? I live in San Francisco.
Our economy was disrupted by Covid-19 and work at home. Thousands of
people came into town by car, bus, trains, ferry boats and BART
to work in offices. Without those consumers, hundreds of businesses
providing them with sustenance could not pay the workers. The
workers could not afford to pay rent and even those with
savings, eventually had to leave the city to live with parents
or in places they could afford to live. Now you might be
referring to the deaths from Fentanyl overdose which are very
tragic but the whole opioid crisis was brought upon us by a
pharmaceutical company making slow release opiate drugs.
When the people using these drugs for pain relief could no longer
get prescription they went to the streets and overwhelmed the
illegal opiate supply so some bright entrepreneurial criminals
decided to give them Fentanyl which is very powerful. I believe
I had a fentanyl drug for surgery back some years. Shut down
my colon but not my appetite. That was painful and the laxative
was entirely distasteful.

Post by pothead
The sad part is that the honest, hard working taxpayers are going to be paying for the bills which
is one reason these type of cities are experiencing a mass exodus of people leaving.

Where do you think the Honest Taxpayers live but in big cities that
send money to the Federal Government which keeps the Red States
semi-functional.

Post by pothead

Post by Bobbie Sellers
Cities like San Francisco, Los Angeles, Chicago, New York City
contribute more taxes to the system and support more rural states with
reactionary governments. We do not care for reactionary governments
but the people who live there are American Citizens and deserve far
better than the State governments will allow them to have.

So you are for government handouts?

Just like the big companies bailed out by the Federal Government
to prevent massive unemployment under a variety of Republican and
Democratic administrations

Post by pothead
You'll love it over in China, Russia, Venezuala or any of the other pseudo Marxist regimes.

Not really because unlike you I appreciated the freedoms we
have in the USA and do not have a desire to make them only my freedoms.
$100,000,000 Million dollars per year is the contribution of
the undocumented to the Tax rolls more than any of the billionairs pay
except for a few who support higher taxes on the wealthy people with
big incomes.
You are correct that they are pseudo-Marxist but Marxism was
never about government, it is about revolution. Once power is seized
from the prior government, naive revolutionaries try to reinvent
government but mainly they are interested in holding onto the power
they have seized. Take the most successful revolution of the 18th
Century the American Revolution. It was only a few years before
the elite of that revolution sat down in Philadelphia and gave
us a halfway good Constitution. Of course it left the power in
the hand of White Landowning Males aka the Elite. Over the years
the Franchise was extended to white men and after the Civil
War it was supposed to be extended to black men but when
Rutherford B.Hayes ended reconstruction to gain electoral votes
for his presidency black people were once again little more
than slaves. Finally it was extended to women and laws were
passed under LBJ that returned the Franchise to the darkest
skinned people but the Roberts SCOTUS has eroded that voting
rights act and the former states of the Confederacy and the
Republican Party which switched alignment with Richard Nixon's
Southern Strategy from the party of Lincoln to the party of
anti-Federalism.

Post by pothead

Post by Bobbie Sellers
Remember abortions may be a convenience to the rich but to the poor
they may be life-saving procedures. The production of new human
persons is fraught with difficulties which people unfamiliar with
the medical details cannot begin to imagine.
As an example of what abortion restrictions have accomplished to
date:UNITED STATES HAS HIGHEST MATERNAL DEATH RATES
<https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2024/8/5/2260803/-UNITED-STATES-HAS-HIGHEST-MATERNAL-DEATH-RATES>
And in those states with abortion restriction the rate of
homicide by the intimate partners of pregnant women is starting to rise.
bliss - 87 YOA before you know it... How the years float by.

Abortions are destroying the minority, mostly black, culture.
And defunding the police is also harming lower income neighborhoods far more than teh wealthy ones.

The minority is mostly white and already have children
which they can afford to suppurt. Minorities have multiple cultures
which are relatively stable. Remember I live among minorities
and am myself a minority of One.
Not even San Francisco has actually defunded the police
but they have added funds to support the social workers and
psychologists who should be sent to deal with persons in mental crisis.
A woman cooking in her kitchen was the victim of a police murder,
because she had a pot of boiling water in her hand.
I guess the former LEO who killed her had an abnormal fear
of boiling water perhaps steming from a childhood incident. Still
it is extra-judicial killing amd maybe he will be punished accordingly.

bliss

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Post by pothead

Post by Bobbie Sellers

Post by pothead

Post by Creon

Post by useapen
https://www.kron4.com/news/bay-area/influx-of-non-san-franciscans-living-
on-sf-streets-data-shows/

This is a phenomenon in many California cities that offer services.
The problem is red state bastards don't take care of their own, so people
come to California, where they can get help.
Here in our city, we bought 3 hotels to shelter homeless. My
brother-in-law is a paramedic, and was one of the people working
to help these unfortunate souls get back on their feet. Many of them
have abuse disorders that can't be addressed without outside help.
The system is crammed. Even so, people who are still on the streets
are less likely to freeze to death in California.
You MAGA weirdos would have them live on the streets in squalor, with
no hope of recovery. Shame on you.

1. Stop the illegal migration that the Biden/Harris administration started. A good start would be
reinstating the Trump policies, which were working, and adding to them.
Stop the free medical care, free phones, free housing, free education, free legal advice and so
forth.

Actually the Trump administration acted irresponsibly to
break up families and incarcerate inappropriately, children away from
their parents.
In addition it probably violate our International Treaty Obligations to
provide asylum seekers protection.

They shouldn't be here in the first place.
BTW, it was Obama who constructed cages for the kids.
And right now, under Biden Harris, lost migrant children numbers have soared.
<https://www.kpbs.org/news/border-immigration/2024/07/29/report-reveals-migrant-family-separations-
continue-under-biden>
<https://www.newsweek.com/under-joe-biden-undocumented-children-missing-1812728>
( a year old BTW)

Post by Bobbie Sellers

Post by pothead
2. Send the illegals back to their home country.

Which ones? The people who crossed illegally last week or the people
imported here at an early age and who are productive members of society
paying more taxes than Trump ever did or who do you mean to
send back where ever they came from?

All of them.
Start with the got away migrants, known terrorists, and those arrested in US for committing serious
crimes.
We have to start somewhere.
BTW, you do realize that these migrants are coached, given a script to follow when questioned,
don't you?

Post by Bobbie Sellers

Post by pothead
3. Take care of the US citizens, like the military veterans and people suffering under Bidenomics
first.

Trump never helped Veterans in any way as by his statements he
considers them "losers and suckers". Bidennomics so far is a greater
success than anything Trump did and unlike Trump Biden and Harris have
started real initiative to reduce foreign dependence on manufactured
products like the digital chips used in every sort of appliance,
automobiles and in computers like the one in front of you.

Yea.
And Biden also increased our dependence on foreign oil, raw materials for batteries, solar panels
and so forth.
As for the chip act, which I agree with BTW, Biden has torpedoed himself by the addition of DEI
into the offer/deal.
Not popular at all.
As for veterans, the mass illegal migration has seen veterans and seniors evicted from housing in
order to make room for migrants.
<https://nypost.com/2023/05/13/outrage-grows-over-vets-evicted-from-hotels-to-house-migrants/>
<https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/biden-s-dei-rules-are-worse-than-hamas-top-microchip-makers
-are-postponing-us-expansion-and-instead-expanding-in-dangerous-israel-and-russia-because-american-
grants-come-with-so-many-equity-caveats/ar-BB1jC2pI>
''Biden's DEI rules are worse than HAMAS': Top microchip makers are postponing US expansion and
instead expanding in dangerous Israel and Russia because American grants come with so many 'equity''

Post by Bobbie Sellers

Post by pothead
Why do progressives seem to take care of everyone other than legal US citizens first?
Why does America seem to come last under democrat administrations?

You need to get better sources of information. I am a legal citizen
born in 1937 in the State of Washington and living on Social
Security in San Francisco. If the reactionary state governments usually
Republican would accept the Medicaid extensions and take care of their
poorest citizens properly you would see that the US Federal government
is very concerned with the welfare of every citizen and legal alien
present in the USA and its contiguous territories.

lol!
Your sample of one means nothing.
Take care of the citizens FIRST.
BTW, do you get FREE medical care?
A FREE cellphone?
FREE housing?
FREE laundry service? (Move to NYC for that one)
FREE education?
While I agree our healthcare and retirement system is a mess and in need of an overhaul I also see
the massive influx of illegal migrants as a major part of the problem.
The citizens who have worked, paid taxes and so forth should be taken care of first.

Post by Bobbie Sellers

Post by pothead

Post by Creon
The system is way overloaded and this all started with Biden/Harris

and them rolling out the red

Post by pothead
carpet welcome mat to 10 million plus illegals.

It all started when the rich man Trump gave a tax break to other rich
people and threw the tax burden onto the back of the people making
far less money. It will be worse if he has a second term.

Hahaha!
You are SOOOOO misguided.
Corporations create jobs. Illegal migrants are a drain on society.
Ask 10 people on the street if they are better off now than under Trump and see what happens.
BTW, I don't see millionaires sneaking across the border.
Do you?
Did you know that Harris wants to increase the tax rate to some 35% ?
The economy under Trump flourished despite COVID.
Under Biden/Harris it's a disaster and people are suffering.

Post by Bobbie Sellers

Post by pothead
Oh and SF like other so called sanctuary cities, like NYC for example, are only getting what they
deserve.

What do you think we are getting here? I live in San Francisco.
Our economy was disrupted by Covid-19 and work at home. Thousands of
people came into town by car, bus, trains, ferry boats and BART
to work in offices. Without those consumers, hundreds of businesses
providing them with sustenance could not pay the workers. The
workers could not afford to pay rent and even those with
savings, eventually had to leave the city to live with parents
or in places they could afford to live. Now you might be
referring to the deaths from Fentanyl overdose which are very
tragic but the whole opioid crisis was brought upon us by a
pharmaceutical company making slow release opiate drugs.
When the people using these drugs for pain relief could no longer
get prescription they went to the streets and overwhelmed the
illegal opiate supply so some bright entrepreneurial criminals
decided to give them Fentanyl which is very powerful. I believe
I had a fentanyl drug for surgery back some years. Shut down
my colon but not my appetite. That was painful and the laxative
was entirely distasteful.

Post by pothead
The sad part is that the honest, hard working taxpayers are going to be paying for the bills which
is one reason these type of cities are experiencing a mass exodus of people leaving.

Cities like San Francisco, Los Angeles, Chicago, New York City
contribute more taxes to the system and support more rural states with
reactionary governments. We do not care for reactionary governments
but the people who live there are American Citizens and deserve far
better than the State governments will allow them to have.

So you are for government handouts?
You'll love it over in China, Russia, Venezuala or any of the other pseudo Marxist regimes.

Post by Bobbie Sellers
Remember abortions may be a convenience to the rich but to the poor
they may be life-saving procedures. The production of new human
persons is fraught with difficulties which people unfamiliar with
the medical details cannot begin to imagine.
As an example of what abortion restrictions have accomplished to
date:UNITED STATES HAS HIGHEST MATERNAL DEATH RATES
<https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2024/8/5/2260803/-UNITED-STATES-HAS-HIGHEST-MATERNAL-DEATH-RATES>
And in those states with abortion restriction the rate of
homicide by the intimate partners of pregnant women is starting to rise.
bliss - 87 YOA before you know it... How the years float by.

Abortions are destroying the minority, mostly black, culture.
And defunding the police is also harming lower income neighborhoods far more than teh wealthy ones.

You are attempting to have a coherent discussion with a far left liberal.
Don't waste your time.

[Bobbie Sellers]

Post by Charlie Glock

Post by pothead

Post by Bobbie Sellers

Post by pothead

Post by Creon

Post by useapen
https://www.kron4.com/news/bay-area/influx-of-non-san-franciscans-living-
on-sf-streets-data-shows/

This is a phenomenon in many California cities that offer services.
The problem is red state bastards don't take care of their own, so people
come to California, where they can get help.
Here in our city, we bought 3 hotels to shelter homeless. My
brother-in-law is a paramedic, and was one of the people working
to help these unfortunate souls get back on their feet. Many of them
have abuse disorders that can't be addressed without outside help.
The system is crammed. Even so, people who are still on the streets
are less likely to freeze to death in California.
You MAGA weirdos would have them live on the streets in squalor, with
no hope of recovery. Shame on you.

1. Stop the illegal migration that the Biden/Harris administration started. A good start would be
reinstating the Trump policies, which were working, and adding to them.
Stop the free medical care, free phones, free housing, free education, free legal advice and so
forth.

Actually the Trump administration acted irresponsibly to
break up families and incarcerate inappropriately, children away from
their parents.
In addition it probably violate our International Treaty Obligations to
provide asylum seekers protection.

They shouldn't be here in the first place.
BTW, it was Obama who constructed cages for the kids.
And right now, under Biden Harris, lost migrant children numbers have soared.
<https://www.kpbs.org/news/border-immigration/2024/07/29/report-reveals-migrant-family-separations-
continue-under-biden>
<https://www.newsweek.com/under-joe-biden-undocumented-children-missing-1812728>
( a year old BTW)

Post by Bobbie Sellers

Post by pothead
2. Send the illegals back to their home country.

Which ones? The people who crossed illegally last week or the people
imported here at an early age and who are productive members of society
paying more taxes than Trump ever did or who do you mean to
send back where ever they came from?

All of them.
Start with the got away migrants, known terrorists, and those arrested in US for committing serious
crimes.
We have to start somewhere.
BTW, you do realize that these migrants are coached, given a script to follow when questioned,
don't you?

Post by Bobbie Sellers

Post by pothead
3. Take care of the US citizens, like the military veterans and people suffering under Bidenomics
first.

Trump never helped Veterans in any way as by his statements he
considers them "losers and suckers". Bidennomics so far is a greater
success than anything Trump did and unlike Trump Biden and Harris have
started real initiative to reduce foreign dependence on manufactured
products like the digital chips used in every sort of appliance,
automobiles and in computers like the one in front of you.

Yea.
And Biden also increased our dependence on foreign oil, raw materials for batteries, solar panels
and so forth.
As for the chip act, which I agree with BTW, Biden has torpedoed himself by the addition of DEI
into the offer/deal.
Not popular at all.
As for veterans, the mass illegal migration has seen veterans and seniors evicted from housing in
order to make room for migrants.
<https://nypost.com/2023/05/13/outrage-grows-over-vets-evicted-from-hotels-to-house-migrants/>
<https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/biden-s-dei-rules-are-worse-than-hamas-top-microchip-makers
-are-postponing-us-expansion-and-instead-expanding-in-dangerous-israel-and-russia-because-american-
grants-come-with-so-many-equity-caveats/ar-BB1jC2pI>
''Biden's DEI rules are worse than HAMAS': Top microchip makers are postponing US expansion and
instead expanding in dangerous Israel and Russia because American grants come with so many 'equity''

Post by Bobbie Sellers

Post by pothead
Why do progressives seem to take care of everyone other than legal US citizens first?
Why does America seem to come last under democrat administrations?

You need to get better sources of information. I am a legal citizen
born in 1937 in the State of Washington and living on Social
Security in San Francisco. If the reactionary state governments usually
Republican would accept the Medicaid extensions and take care of their
poorest citizens properly you would see that the US Federal government
is very concerned with the welfare of every citizen and legal alien
present in the USA and its contiguous territories.

lol!
Your sample of one means nothing.
Take care of the citizens FIRST.
BTW, do you get FREE medical care?
A FREE cellphone?
FREE housing?
FREE laundry service? (Move to NYC for that one)
FREE education?
While I agree our healthcare and retirement system is a mess and in need of an overhaul I also see
the massive influx of illegal migrants as a major part of the problem.
The citizens who have worked, paid taxes and so forth should be taken care of first.

Post by Bobbie Sellers

Post by pothead

Post by Creon
The system is way overloaded and this all started with Biden/Harris

and them rolling out the red

Post by pothead
carpet welcome mat to 10 million plus illegals.

It all started when the rich man Trump gave a tax break to other rich
people and threw the tax burden onto the back of the people making
far less money. It will be worse if he has a second term.

Hahaha!
You are SOOOOO misguided.
Corporations create jobs. Illegal migrants are a drain on society.
Ask 10 people on the street if they are better off now than under Trump and see what happens.
BTW, I don't see millionaires sneaking across the border.
Do you?
Did you know that Harris wants to increase the tax rate to some 35% ?
The economy under Trump flourished despite COVID.
Under Biden/Harris it's a disaster and people are suffering.

Post by Bobbie Sellers

Post by pothead
Oh and SF like other so called sanctuary cities, like NYC for example, are only getting what they
deserve.

What do you think we are getting here? I live in San Francisco.
Our economy was disrupted by Covid-19 and work at home. Thousands of
people came into town by car, bus, trains, ferry boats and BART
to work in offices. Without those consumers, hundreds of businesses
providing them with sustenance could not pay the workers. The
workers could not afford to pay rent and even those with
savings, eventually had to leave the city to live with parents
or in places they could afford to live. Now you might be
referring to the deaths from Fentanyl overdose which are very
tragic but the whole opioid crisis was brought upon us by a
pharmaceutical company making slow release opiate drugs.
When the people using these drugs for pain relief could no longer
get prescription they went to the streets and overwhelmed the
illegal opiate supply so some bright entrepreneurial criminals
decided to give them Fentanyl which is very powerful. I believe
I had a fentanyl drug for surgery back some years. Shut down
my colon but not my appetite. That was painful and the laxative
was entirely distasteful.

Post by pothead
The sad part is that the honest, hard working taxpayers are going to be paying for the bills which
is one reason these type of cities are experiencing a mass exodus of people leaving.

Cities like San Francisco, Los Angeles, Chicago, New York City
contribute more taxes to the system and support more rural states with
reactionary governments. We do not care for reactionary governments
but the people who live there are American Citizens and deserve far
better than the State governments will allow them to have.

So you are for government handouts?
You'll love it over in China, Russia, Venezuala or any of the other pseudo Marxist regimes.

Post by Bobbie Sellers
Remember abortions may be a convenience to the rich but to the poor
they may be life-saving procedures. The production of new human
persons is fraught with difficulties which people unfamiliar with
the medical details cannot begin to imagine.

As an example of what abortion restrictions have accomplished to
date:UNITED STATES HAS HIGHEST MATERNAL DEATH RATE

<https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2024/8/5/2260803/-UNITED-STATES-HAS-HIGHEST-MATERNAL-DEATH-RATES>

Post by Charlie Glock

Post by pothead

Post by Bobbie Sellers
And in those states with abortion restriction the rate of
homicide by the intimate partners of pregnant women is starting to rise.
bliss - 87 YOA before you know it... How the years float by.

Abortions are destroying the minority, mostly black, culture.
And defunding the police is also harming lower income neighborhoods far more than teh wealthy ones.

You are attempting to have a coherent discussion with a far left liberal.
Don't waste your time.

Whom are you calling what?

Why are you concerned with arguements between differing POV?

Are you trying to suppress Freedom of Speech?

I am a Marxist of the brand preached by
Chico, Harpo and Groucho who are my leaders.
I was silenced on the Proressive Democratic outlet
Daily Kos but I think they do a valuable service so I contine
to donate to them and read their stuff every day. They are
more accurate in their reporting than any Right Wing News s
ource like Fox News, Xitter, or un-Truth anti-Social the
Trump brand of nonsense.

I am an Illogical Positivist. And the African Expoler's
song sums up the course of human life, in Groucho's solo
"I only came to say I must be going."

bliss - full of whimsy today

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Post by Bobbie Sellers
full of whimsy today

Coach em up the Sandusky way eh?

https://www.dailywire.com/news/trans-six-year-olds-custody-battles-and-tampons-for-boys-tim-walzs-record-on-kids-and-gender-ideology

Tim Walz may have the manner of a kindly, Midwestern dad. But when it
comes to protecting the country’s children from transgender medical
interventions, Walz is not interested. In fact, he wants the opposite.

Vice President Kamala Harris tapped the Minnesota governor as her
running mate Tuesday, prompting scrutiny of his progressive record on
everything from immigration to abortion and gender ideology.

Walz signed a cluster of legislation in April 2023 that established
Minnesota as a haven for children who want puberty blockers, cross-sex
hormones, or transgender surgeries.

One law Walz signed allows Minnesota to seize custody of a child whose
parents refuse to provide “gender affirming care.”

“A court of this state has temporary emergency jurisdiction if the child
is present in this state and … the child has been unable to obtain
gender-affirming health care,” the bill reads.

The same law says Minnesota will refuse to help if another state is
trying to remove a child from his or her parents because the parents are
subjecting the child to hormone treatments or surgeries.

At the signing, Walz squeezed the hand of a 12-year-old boy wearing a
dress who identified as a girl. A six-year-old boy, also in a dress, was
in attendance with his parents, who are raising him as a girl.

“For trans rights,” the squirming six-year-old said when asked by a
reporter why his family was there.

“Guess what? Love wins,” Walz said at the order signing.

Walz’s lieutenant governor, Peggy Flanagan, wore a shirt with a picture
of a knife and the words, “Protect Trans Kids” to the signing.

In May of last year, Walz signed legislation requiring boys’ bathrooms
in public schools to stock free tampons or pads beginning in January 2024.

[Bobbie Sellers]

Post by Chips Loral

Post by Bobbie Sellers
full of whimsy today

Coach em up the Sandusky way eh?
https://www.dailywire.com/news/trans-six-year-olds-custody-battles-and-tampons-for-boys-tim-walzs-record-on-kids-and-gender-ideology
Tim Walz may have the manner of a kindly, Midwestern dad. But when it
comes to protecting the country’s children from transgender medical
interventions, Walz is not interested. In fact, he wants the opposite.

Medical intervention in the lives of Transgender children
probably will save lives.

Post by Chips Loral
Vice President Kamala Harris tapped the Minnesota governor as her
running mate Tuesday, prompting scrutiny of his progressive record on
everything from immigration to abortion and gender ideology.
Walz signed a cluster of legislation in April 2023 that established
Minnesota as a haven for children who want puberty blockers, cross-sex
hormones, or transgender surgeries.

Children do not get Gender Reassigment surgeries.

Post by Chips Loral
One law Walz signed allows Minnesota to seize custody of a child whose
parents refuse to provide “gender affirming care.”

Well they are telling their children that they hate them
in this way which is not good for the child.

Post by Chips Loral
“A court of this state has temporary emergency jurisdiction if the child
is present in this state and … the child has been unable to obtain
gender-affirming health care,” the bill reads.

Good! I wish we had such laws 80 years ago.

Post by Chips Loral
The same law says Minnesota will refuse to help if another state is
trying to remove a child from his or her parents because the parents are
subjecting the child to hormone treatments or surgeries.

Subjecting a child to needed medical care usually at the
child's request is the business of no one but the doctor or team of
doctors trying to reduce gender dysphoria

Post by Chips Loral
At the signing, Walz squeezed the hand of a 12-year-old boy wearing a
dress who identified as a girl. A six-year-old boy, also in a dress, was
in attendance with his parents, who are raising him as a girl.
“For trans rights,” the squirming six-year-old said when asked by a
reporter why his family was there.
“Guess what? Love wins,” Walz said at the order signing.

Well if you love your children you pay attention to what
they are saying and do not discourage them if they do not present
as their preferred gender yet.

Post by Chips Loral
Walz’s lieutenant governor, Peggy Flanagan, wore a shirt with a picture
of a knife and the words, “Protect Trans Kids” to the signing.
In May of last year, Walz signed legislation requiring boys’ bathrooms
in public schools to stock free tampons or pads beginning in January 2024.

That is not for the Transgender girls but for the Transgender boys.
Transgender girls or women were misidentified as male usually and
transgender boys were identified as female usually.

So some have to pee sitting down and still use the boys bathroom.

I do not see why Christians are upset about Transgender children
receiving appropriate care. Jesus mentions men who make themselves
Eunuchs for the sake of God. Transgender children are the best proof
of a soul or other spiritual appurtenance. My friend Camille was
treated with electroshock to try to convince her to abandon feminine
clothing but it had no effect on that aspect of her personality.
Did leave her with memory problems.

bliss-Dell Precision 7730- PCLOS 2024.06- Linux 6.6.43- Plasma 5.27.11

[Chips Loral]

  Well if you love your children you pay attention to what
they are saying and do not discourage them if they do not present
as their preferred gender yet.

Coach em up the Sandusky way eh?

https://www.dailywire.com/news/trans-six-year-olds-custody-battles-and-tampons-for-boys-tim-walzs-record-on-kids-and-gender-ideology

Tim Walz may have the manner of a kindly, Midwestern dad. But when it
comes to protecting the country’s children from transgender medical
interventions, Walz is not interested. In fact, he wants the opposite.

Vice President Kamala Harris tapped the Minnesota governor as her
running mate Tuesday, prompting scrutiny of his progressive record on
everything from immigration to abortion and gender ideology.

Walz signed a cluster of legislation in April 2023 that established
Minnesota as a haven for children who want puberty blockers, cross-sex
hormones, or transgender surgeries.

One law Walz signed allows Minnesota to seize custody of a child whose
parents refuse to provide “gender affirming care.”

“A court of this state has temporary emergency jurisdiction if the child
is present in this state and … the child has been unable to obtain
gender-affirming health care,” the bill reads.

The same law says Minnesota will refuse to help if another state is
trying to remove a child from his or her parents because the parents are
subjecting the child to hormone treatments or surgeries.

At the signing, Walz squeezed the hand of a 12-year-old boy wearing a
dress who identified as a girl. A six-year-old boy, also in a dress, was
in attendance with his parents, who are raising him as a girl.

“For trans rights,” the squirming six-year-old said when asked by a
reporter why his family was there.

“Guess what? Love wins,” Walz said at the order signing.

Walz’s lieutenant governor, Peggy Flanagan, wore a shirt with a picture
of a knife and the words, “Protect Trans Kids” to the signing.

In May of last year, Walz signed legislation requiring boys’ bathrooms
in public schools to stock free tampons or pads beginning in January 2024.

[Bobbie Sellers]

On 8/7/24 08:04, Chips Loral wrote:

The same nonsense for the 2ng time today so I reply for the second time
today.

Post by Chips Loral

Post by Bobbie Sellers
full of whimsy today

Coach em up the Sandusky way eh?
https://www.dailywire.com/news/trans-six-year-olds-custody-battles-and-tampons-for-boys-tim-walzs-record-on-kids-and-gender-ideology
Tim Walz may have the manner of a kindly, Midwestern dad. But when it
comes to protecting the country’s children from transgender medical
interventions, Walz is not interested. In fact, he wants the opposite.

Medical intervention in the lives of Transgender children
probably will save lives.

Post by Chips Loral
Vice President Kamala Harris tapped the Minnesota governor as her
running mate Tuesday, prompting scrutiny of his progressive record on
everything from immigration to abortion and gender ideology.
Walz signed a cluster of legislation in April 2023 that established
Minnesota as a haven for children who want puberty blockers, cross-sex
hormones, or transgender surgeries.

Children do not get Gender Reassigment surgeries.

Post by Chips Loral
One law Walz signed allows Minnesota to seize custody of a child whose
parents refuse to provide “gender affirming care.”

Well they are telling their children that they hate them
in this way which is not good for the child.

Post by Chips Loral
“A court of this state has temporary emergency jurisdiction if the
child is present in this state and … the child has been unable to
obtain gender-affirming health care,” the bill reads.

Good! I wish we had such laws 80 years ago.

Post by Chips Loral
The same law says Minnesota will refuse to help if another state is
trying to remove a child from his or her parents because the parents
are subjecting the child to hormone treatments or surgeries.

Subjecting a child to needed medical care usually at the
child's request is the business of no one but the doctor or team of
doctors trying to reduce gender dysphoria

Post by Chips Loral
At the signing, Walz squeezed the hand of a 12-year-old boy wearing a
dress who identified as a girl. A six-year-old boy, also in a dress,
was in attendance with his parents, who are raising him as a girl.
“For trans rights,” the squirming six-year-old said when asked by a
reporter why his family was there.
“Guess what? Love wins,” Walz said at the order signing.

Well if you love your children you pay attention to what
they are saying and do not discourage them if they do not present
as their preferred gender yet.

Post by Chips Loral
Walz’s lieutenant governor, Peggy Flanagan, wore a shirt with a
picture of a knife and the words, “Protect Trans Kids” to the signing.
In May of last year, Walz signed legislation requiring boys’ bathrooms
in public schools to stock free tampons or pads beginning in January 2024.

That is not for the Transgender girls but for the Transgender boys.
Transgender girls or women were misidentified as male usually and
transgender boys were identified as female usually.

So some have to pee sitting down and still use the boys bathroom.

I do not see why Christians are upset about Transgender children
receiving appropriate care. Jesus mentions men who make themselves
Eunuchs for the sake of God. Transgender children are the best proof
of a soul or other spiritual appurtenance. My friend Camille was treated
with electroshock to try to convince her to abandon feminine
clothing but it had no effect on that aspect of her personality.
Did leave her with memory problems.

bliss-Dell Precision 7730- PCLOS 2024.06- Linux 6.6.43- Plasma 5.27.11

[Charlie Glock]

Post by Bobbie Sellers
The same nonsense for the 2ng time today so I reply for the second time
today.

Post by Chips Loral

Post by Bobbie Sellers
full of whimsy today

Coach em up the Sandusky way eh?
https://www.dailywire.com/news/trans-six-year-olds-custody-battles-and-tampons-for-boys-tim-walzs-record-on-kids-and-gender-ideology
Tim Walz may have the manner of a kindly, Midwestern dad. But when it
comes to protecting the country’s children from transgender medical
interventions, Walz is not interested. In fact, he wants the opposite.

Medical intervention in the lives of Transgender children
probably will save lives.

ANY intervention in a minor's life without parent's consent or participation is wrong.

Post by Bobbie Sellers

Post by Chips Loral
Vice President Kamala Harris tapped the Minnesota governor as her
running mate Tuesday, prompting scrutiny of his progressive record on
everything from immigration to abortion and gender ideology.
Walz signed a cluster of legislation in April 2023 that established
Minnesota as a haven for children who want puberty blockers, cross-sex
hormones, or transgender surgeries.

Children do not get Gender Reassigment surgeries.

Oh yes they do.

<https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/thousands-of-us-children-underwent-gender-transition-study
/ar-AA1g87wM>

Post by Bobbie Sellers

Post by Chips Loral
One law Walz signed allows Minnesota to seize custody of a child whose
parents refuse to provide “gender affirming care.”

Well they are telling their children that they hate them
in this way which is not good for the child.

Wrong.
They are allowing a minor who doesn't know up from down to determine their sex.
It's sick.

Post by Bobbie Sellers

Post by Chips Loral
“A court of this state has temporary emergency jurisdiction if the
child is present in this state and … the child has been unable to
obtain gender-affirming health care,” the bill reads.

Good! I wish we had such laws 80 years ago.

Post by Chips Loral
The same law says Minnesota will refuse to help if another state is
trying to remove a child from his or her parents because the parents
are subjecting the child to hormone treatments or surgeries.

Subjecting a child to needed medical care usually at the
child's request is the business of no one but the doctor or team of
doctors trying to reduce gender dysphoria

Wrong again.
The parents make the final decision.

You are crazy.

[Bobbie Sellers]

Post by Charlie Glock

Post by Bobbie Sellers
The same nonsense for the 2ng time today so I reply for the second time
today.

Post by Chips Loral

Post by Bobbie Sellers
full of whimsy today

Snip

Post by Charlie Glock

Post by Bobbie Sellers
Medical intervention in the lives of Transgender children
probably will save lives.

ANY intervention in a minor's life without parent's consent or participation is wrong.

Oh you pull a kid out of swimming hole or the ocean or a lake and he is
not breathing. You are going to wait for parental consent to give
Artifial Respiration? No you are not are you unless you are ignorant
of life saving measures

Post by Charlie Glock

Post by Bobbie Sellers

Post by Chips Loral
Vice President Kamala Harris tapped the Minnesota governor as her
running mate Tuesday, prompting scrutiny of his progressive record on
everything from immigration to abortion and gender ideology.
Walz signed a cluster of legislation in April 2023 that established
Minnesota as a haven for children who want puberty blockers, cross-sex
hormones, or transgender surgeries.

Children do not get Gender Reassigment surgeries.

Oh yes they do.
<https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/thousands-of-us-children-underwent-gender-transition-study
/ar-AA1g87wM>

Here you conflate Gender Transition with Surgery. Gender Transition is
a social process in which the individual considering
any change in Gender Assignment is forced by medical protocol to
live in the chosen role. It may take a long long time for an adult
to get to the other side. Now the other side may be cisgender because
of reasons which are personal, it may be as to live as transgender
woman or man with some enhancement of body parts or de-emphasis of
gender makers. Only in the case of a successful transition to the
chosen gender role should surgery if requested of any sort be
considered.
Lots of transgender people are very successful in one field
or another. Some become politicians and do a good job for their
constituents.

Post by Charlie Glock

Post by Bobbie Sellers

Post by Chips Loral
One law Walz signed allows Minnesota to seize custody of a child whose
parents refuse to provide “gender affirming care.”

Well they are telling their children that they hate them
in this way which is not good for the child.

Wrong.
They are allowing a minor who doesn't know up from down to
determine their sex.> It's sick.

Again you conflate sex with gender. And you cannot
change the sex of anyone though through surgery many sexual
characteristics can be obliterated.
Gender is how a person feels and has nothing to do
with worldly knowledge of sex or it function. Gender will
be expressed in many ways and noncongruence of gender or
of sexual roles will be suppressed most often by violent or
legal means.

Post by Charlie Glock

Post by Bobbie Sellers

Post by Chips Loral
“A court of this state has temporary emergency jurisdiction if the
child is present in this state and … the child has been unable to
obtain gender-affirming health care,” the bill reads.

Good! I wish we had such laws 80 years ago.

Post by Chips Loral
The same law says Minnesota will refuse to help if another state is
trying to remove a child from his or her parents because the parents
are subjecting the child to hormone treatments or surgeries.

Subjecting a child to needed medical care usually at the
child's request is the business of no one but the doctor or team of
doctors trying to reduce gender dysphoria

Wrong again.
The parents make the final decision.

Not if the child becomes an adult.
18 years of age most often.

Post by Charlie Glock
You are crazy.

That is only from your POV but I will admit that I am
bipolar to the extent that I gave up nursing and because I
bother to talk to people whose familiarity with the issues
under discussion is fragmentary. Have even read the seminal
text in this gender discussion? For your information that
text is Harry J. Benjamin" MD(endocrinologist) "The Transsexual
Phenomenon" which was published I believe in the late 1960s.
At least then I was shown it by a GF who went thru with the
surgery but after I met her. She had an unrealistic attitude
towards surgery and so was very unhappy. But she had some
journalistic success. She moved from San Francisco after
she finished school to the East Coast.
Doctor Benjamin had patients come to him who wanted
to become feminized thru the use of estrogens. After some
experience in this practice he devised a scale from
Gender congruence thru Transgender to Transsexual.
And their are people whose mental illness leads them
to believe that they are Transgender and that happiness will come
automatically when their GRS wishes are fulfilled.
I knew one who was instead very unhappy and ate sleeping
pills and drowned in hir bathtub.

Now in children who are loved rather than abused
by their parents the chance of such serious mental illness
should be lessened. No one is indoctrinating children except
their parents, religious and secular teachers.
Religious teachers probably cause more problems by
overly strict adherence to dogmas better ignored with modern
knowledge. First of all the anti-sex bias of the Christian
religion, the teaching that all sodomy was wrong was from
the practices of male temple prostitutes and the prevalence
of slavery in which young men and women were exploited by
slave masters.

bliss - who got out of nursing rather than become Nurse Rached.

[Governor Swill]

Post by Bobbie Sellers

Post by Charlie Glock

Post by Bobbie Sellers
The same nonsense for the 2ng time today so I reply for the second time
today.

Post by Bobbie Sellers
full of whimsy today

Snip

Post by Charlie Glock

Post by Bobbie Sellers
Medical intervention in the lives of Transgender children
probably will save lives.

ANY intervention in a minor's life without parent's consent or participation is wrong.

Oh you pull a kid out of swimming hole or the ocean or a lake and he is
not breathing. You are going to wait for parental consent to give
Artifial Respiration? No you are not are you unless you are ignorant
of life saving measures

I'm with Glock on this one. Gender affirming care must only be provided with parental
consent.

#nevertrump

Carville taunts Trump
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/6CiaIoJRpeE

[Bobbie Sellers]

Post by Governor Swill

Post by Bobbie Sellers

Post by Charlie Glock

Post by Bobbie Sellers
The same nonsense for the 2ng time today so I reply for the second time
today.

Post by Bobbie Sellers
full of whimsy today

Snip

Post by Charlie Glock

Post by Bobbie Sellers
Medical intervention in the lives of Transgender children
probably will save lives.

ANY intervention in a minor's life without parent's consent or participation is wrong.

Oh you pull a kid out of swimming hole or the ocean or a lake and he is
not breathing. You are going to wait for parental consent to give
Artifial Respiration? No you are not are you unless you are ignorant
of life saving measures

I'm with Glock on this one. Gender affirming care must only be provided with parental
consent.

Ah but the right wing idiots who do not examine the issues
at all want to lock parents who are accepting and directing their
child's care up for doing so, calling it "Child Abuse".

Children who do not get responsible care for gender dysphoria
in their youth will grow up and get gender care as adults which is
far less effective, due to the changes that happen at puberty. How
these adults who have been unhappy without care parents could have
managed will behave toward those parents and what sort of lives
will they live with the problems that late care causes are
beyond my ken.

Post by Governor Swill
#nevertrump
Carville taunts Trump
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/6CiaIoJRpeE

Oh we all taunt old weird Trump and youg werid Vance.
Eminently tauntable weird guys. As a matter of fact if
I wanted the nation to be run by a narcissist I would pick
me over Trump. I would be tauntable too, but at least I
have a wierd sense of humor.

bliss

[Chips Loral]

Post by Bobbie Sellers
Eminently tauntable weird guys. As a matter of fact if
I wanted the nation to be run by a narcissist I would pick

Coach em up the Sandusky way eh?

https://www.dailywire.com/news/trans-six-year-olds-custody-battles-and-tampons-for-boys-tim-walzs-record-on-kids-and-gender-ideology

Tim Walz may have the manner of a kindly, Midwestern dad. But when it
comes to protecting the country’s children from transgender medical
interventions, Walz is not interested. In fact, he wants the opposite.

Vice President Kamala Harris tapped the Minnesota governor as her
running mate Tuesday, prompting scrutiny of his progressive record on
everything from immigration to abortion and gender ideology.

Walz signed a cluster of legislation in April 2023 that established
Minnesota as a haven for children who want puberty blockers, cross-sex
hormones, or transgender surgeries.

One law Walz signed allows Minnesota to seize custody of a child whose
parents refuse to provide “gender affirming care.”

“A court of this state has temporary emergency jurisdiction if the child
is present in this state and … the child has been unable to obtain
gender-affirming health care,” the bill reads.

The same law says Minnesota will refuse to help if another state is
trying to remove a child from his or her parents because the parents are
subjecting the child to hormone treatments or surgeries.

At the signing, Walz squeezed the hand of a 12-year-old boy wearing a
dress who identified as a girl. A six-year-old boy, also in a dress, was
in attendance with his parents, who are raising him as a girl.

“For trans rights,” the squirming six-year-old said when asked by a
reporter why his family was there.

“Guess what? Love wins,” Walz said at the order signing.

Walz’s lieutenant governor, Peggy Flanagan, wore a shirt with a picture
of a knife and the words, “Protect Trans Kids” to the signing.

In May of last year, Walz signed legislation requiring boys’ bathrooms
in public schools to stock free tampons or pads beginning in January 2024.

[Lil dwarf Rudey]

Post by Bobbie Sellers
I would be tauntable too, but at least I
have a wierd sense of humor.
    bliss

Another Rudey sock.

YOUR DEATH THREATS AGAINST TRUMP ARE TOO WELL DOCUMENTED:



Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A Terrell/Al
Feldhauser/Malte Runz and a dozen other socks wrote:

Multiple death threats against Trump:
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No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to

thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently

Post by Bobbie Sellers
is an important step to getting there.

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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:


https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
Notes
prev | next
(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.


https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

The United States Secret Service is conducting the investigation in this
case. The United States Attorney’s Office, District of Arizona, is
handling the prosecution.


Those can be reported here:

https://tips.fbi.gov/home

https://www.justice.gov/action-center/report-crime-or-submit-complaint

https://www.secretservice.gov/contact

https://www.dhs.gov/see-something-say-something/reporting/california


Fellow citizens, won't you join in ending Rudey's terrorism here?

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[Governor Swill]

Post by Bobbie Sellers

Post by Governor Swill

Post by Bobbie Sellers

Post by Charlie Glock

Post by Bobbie Sellers
The same nonsense for the 2ng time today so I reply for the second time
today.

Post by Bobbie Sellers
full of whimsy today

Snip

Post by Charlie Glock

Post by Bobbie Sellers
Medical intervention in the lives of Transgender children
probably will save lives.

ANY intervention in a minor's life without parent's consent or participation is wrong.

Oh you pull a kid out of swimming hole or the ocean or a lake and he is
not breathing. You are going to wait for parental consent to give
Artifial Respiration? No you are not are you unless you are ignorant
of life saving measures

I'm with Glock on this one. Gender affirming care must only be provided with parental
consent.

Ah but the right wing idiots who do not examine the issues
at all want to lock parents who are accepting and directing their
child's care up for doing so, calling it "Child Abuse".

I understand that and clearly great care must be taken. Parents make mistakes. This is
not something they can make mistakes on. Parents need to be counseled as well when gender
affirming care is a topic for their child.

When I was in elementary school, I wished I'd been born a girl because they got to wear
such pretty clothes. In hindsight, I'm EXTREMELY happy that gender affirming care wasn't
being offered when I was at that age. I'm a man and I like men. Sissies beware!

#nevertrump

Signs
<https://www.gocomics.com/mattdavies/2024/08/01>

[Lil dwarf Rudey]

Post by Governor Swill
When I was in elementary school, I wished I'd been born a girl because they got to wear
such pretty clothes.

Now you make death threats....

YOUR DEATH THREATS AGAINST TRUMP ARE DOCUMENTED:



Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A Terrell/Al
Feldhauser/Malte Runz and a dozen other socks wrote:

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No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to

thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently

Post by Governor Swill
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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:


https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
Notes
prev | next
(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.


https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

The United States Secret Service is conducting the investigation in this
case. The United States Attorney’s Office, District of Arizona, is
handling the prosecution.


Those can be reported here:

https://tips.fbi.gov/home

https://www.justice.gov/action-center/report-crime-or-submit-complaint

https://www.secretservice.gov/contact

https://www.dhs.gov/see-something-say-something/reporting/california


Fellow citizens, won't you join in ending Rudey's terrorism here?

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[Bobbie Sellers]

Post by Governor Swill

Post by Bobbie Sellers

Post by Governor Swill

Post by Bobbie Sellers

Post by Charlie Glock

Post by Bobbie Sellers
The same nonsense for the 2ng time today so I reply for the second time
today.

Post by Bobbie Sellers
full of whimsy today

Snip

Post by Charlie Glock

Post by Bobbie Sellers
Medical intervention in the lives of Transgender children
probably will save lives.

ANY intervention in a minor's life without parent's consent or participation is wrong.

Oh you pull a kid out of swimming hole or the ocean or a lake and he is
not breathing. You are going to wait for parental consent to give
Artifial Respiration? No you are not are you unless you are ignorant
of life saving measures

I'm with Glock on this one. Gender affirming care must only be provided with parental
consent.

Ah but the right wing idiots who do not examine the issues
at all want to lock parents who are accepting and directing their
child's care up for doing so, calling it "Child Abuse".

I understand that and clearly great care must be taken. Parents make mistakes. This is
not something they can make mistakes on. Parents need to be counseled as well when gender
affirming care is a topic for their child.
When I was in elementary school, I wished I'd been born a girl because they got to wear
such pretty clothes. In hindsight, I'm EXTREMELY happy that gender affirming care wasn't
being offered when I was at that age. I'm a man and I like men. Sissies beware!
#nevertrump
Signs
<https://www.gocomics.com/mattdavies/2024/08/01>

I doubt you live in San Francisco but with the attitude expressed in
"Sissies beware!" you should stay away because some
of the sissies here are tougher than dirt. They were the people
unable to access gender care in a timely manner and are resentful
of societally negative attitudes. It was not always this way
in San Francisco but in the last 50 years attitudes around
transgender people on the part of gay men and women have been
somewhat liberalized. Indeed when the Gay Rights movement took
off it was Lesbians, Gays and Bisexual LGB but now includes
Transgenders, and Questioning and anyone else who agrees
that people are people however they express themselves.
LGBTQ+ I think the situation is similar in other large cities.
I dunno much about other cities except what I read in the
press.

bliss

[Governor Swill]

Post by Bobbie Sellers
I doubt you live in San Francisco but with the attitude expressed in
"Sissies beware!" you should stay away because some
of the sissies here are tougher than dirt. They were the people
unable to access gender care in a timely manner and are resentful
of societally negative attitudes. It was not always this way
in San Francisco but in the last 50 years attitudes around
transgender people on the part of gay men and women have been
somewhat liberalized. Indeed when the Gay Rights movement took
off it was Lesbians, Gays and Bisexual LGB but now includes
Transgenders, and Questioning and anyone else who agrees
that people are people however they express themselves.
LGBTQ+ I think the situation is similar in other large cities.
I dunno much about other cities except what I read in the
press.

I meant it in the sense of 'don't hit on me' because I'm not interested in femininity. I
admire a well put together drag queen as a work of art but ... naw, gimme a MAN every
time.

#nevertrump

Howard Stern talks Donald Trump on the Late Show with Stephen Colbert (starts at 22:30)

[Lil dwarf Rudey]

Post by Governor Swill
'don't hit on me'

Now you make death threats....

YOUR DEATH THREATS AGAINST TRUMP ARE DOCUMENTED:



Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A Terrell/Al
Feldhauser/Malte Runz and a dozen other socks wrote:

Multiple death threats against Trump:
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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:


https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
Notes
prev | next
(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.


https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

The United States Secret Service is conducting the investigation in this
case. The United States Attorney’s Office, District of Arizona, is
handling the prosecution.


Those can be reported here:

https://tips.fbi.gov/home

https://www.justice.gov/action-center/report-crime-or-submit-complaint

https://www.secretservice.gov/contact

https://www.dhs.gov/see-something-say-something/reporting/california


Fellow citizens, won't you join in ending Rudey's terrorism here?

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[Lil dwarf Rudey]

Post by Governor Swill
gimme a MAN every
time.

Now you make death threats....

YOUR DEATH THREATS AGAINST TRUMP ARE DOCUMENTED:

Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A Terrell/Al
Feldhauser/Malte Runz and a dozen other socks wrote:

Multiple death threats against Trump:
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thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently

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is an important step to getting there.

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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:


https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
Notes
prev | next
(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.


https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

The United States Secret Service is conducting the investigation in this
case. The United States Attorney’s Office, District of Arizona, is
handling the prosecution.


Those can be reported here:

https://tips.fbi.gov/home

https://www.justice.gov/action-center/report-crime-or-submit-complaint

https://www.secretservice.gov/contact

https://www.dhs.gov/see-something-say-something/reporting/california


Fellow citizens, won't you join in ending Rudey's terrorism here?

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[Chips Loral]

Post by Bobbie Sellers
I doubt you live in San Francisco but with the attitude expressed in
"Sissies beware!" you should stay away because

Go shit the sidewalk, ya disturbed freakshow.

It's what you clowns did to redefine 'Frisco.

https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article282567178.html

“This is an app where they plot the human feces that are found on the
streets of San Francisco,” DeSantis said, referring to the image. All
that sidewalk poop is “what has happened to one of the previous greatest
cities this country’s ever had.” “That’s just such, such nonsense,”
Newsom countered with audible laughter.


https://www.arcgis.com/apps/View/index.html?appid=b6fab720912642b6aedafdb02a76d2a4

San Francisco Poop Map A

[Bobbie Sellers]

Post by Chips Loral

Post by Bobbie Sellers
I doubt you live in San Francisco but with the attitude expressed in
"Sissies beware!" you should stay away because

Go shit the sidewalk, ya disturbed freakshow.
It's what you clowns did to redefine 'Frisco.
https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article282567178.html
“This is an app where they plot the human feces that are found on the
streets of San Francisco,” DeSantis said, referring to the image. All
that sidewalk poop is “what has happened to one of the previous greatest
cities this country’s ever had.” “That’s just such, such nonsense,”
Newsom countered with audible laughter.
https://www.arcgis.com/apps/View/index.html?appid=b6fab720912642b6aedafdb02a76d2a4
San Francisco Poop Map A

Well we have lot of inconsiderate owners of canines.
Some of them have no place to keep an animal beside the street.
Some refuse housing because it cannot accommodate their 4-legged pals.
And some in housing refuse to pick up after their companion animals.

bliss

[Chips Loral]

Post by Bobbie Sellers
Well we have lot of inconsiderate owners of canines.

No you lying freakshow, that is HUMAN SHIT on the map.

Now go shit the sidewalk, ya disturbed freakshow.

It's what you clowns did to redefine 'Frisco.

https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article282567178.html

“This is an app where they plot the human feces that are found on the
streets of San Francisco,” DeSantis said, referring to the image. All
that sidewalk poop is “what has happened to one of the previous greatest
cities this country’s ever had.” “That’s just such, such nonsense,”
Newsom countered with audible laughter.


https://www.arcgis.com/apps/View/index.html?appid=b6fab720912642b6aedafdb02a76d2a4

San Francisco Poop Map A

[Governor Swill]

Here's some whoppers from Trump's presser:

"Nobody was killed on January 06."

The biggest crowd I even spoke to was that day.

Nobody's spoken to crowds bigger than me.

You look at Martin Luther King's speech, the great speech, same real estate, the fountains
and everything and he had a million people but I had more people.

I can barely type fast enough. It's just one lie after another. Not point of view lies
or understandable political ones but whole cloth, outrageous, irrelevant and counter
productive lies.

#nevertrump

Trumplthinskin is so shallow you couldn't get your ankles wet in him.

[Lil dwarf Rudey]

Post by Governor Swill
Here's some whoppers

Now you make death threats....

YOUR DEATH THREATS AGAINST TRUMP ARE DOCUMENTED:



Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A Terrell/Al
Feldhauser/Malte Runz and a dozen other socks wrote:

Multiple death threats against Trump:
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Cheer up, maybe someone else will try.

Swill

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thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently

Post by Governor Swill
is an important step to getting there.

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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:


https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
Notes
prev | next
(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.


https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

The United States Secret Service is conducting the investigation in this
case. The United States Attorney’s Office, District of Arizona, is
handling the prosecution.


Those can be reported here:

https://tips.fbi.gov/home

https://www.justice.gov/action-center/report-crime-or-submit-complaint

https://www.secretservice.gov/contact

https://www.dhs.gov/see-something-say-something/reporting/california


Fellow citizens, won't you join in ending Rudey's terrorism here?

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

[Lil dwarf Rudey]

Post by Governor Swill
Nobody was killed

Now you make death threats....

YOUR DEATH THREATS AGAINST TRUMP ARE DOCUMENTED:

Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A Terrell/Al
Feldhauser/Malte Runz and a dozen other socks wrote:

Multiple death threats against Trump:
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Cheer up, maybe someone else will try.

Swill

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Post by Governor Swill
No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to

thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently

Post by Governor Swill
is an important step to getting there.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:


https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
Notes
prev | next
(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.


https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

The United States Secret Service is conducting the investigation in this
case. The United States Attorney’s Office, District of Arizona, is
handling the prosecution.


Those can be reported here:

https://tips.fbi.gov/home

https://www.justice.gov/action-center/report-crime-or-submit-complaint

https://www.secretservice.gov/contact

https://www.dhs.gov/see-something-say-something/reporting/california


Fellow citizens, won't you join in ending Rudey's terrorism here?

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

[Lil dwarf Rudey]

Post by Governor Swill
I'm with Glock

YOUR DEATH THREATS AGAINST TRUMP ARE DOCUMENTED:



Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A Terrell/Al
Feldhauser/Malte Runz and a dozen other socks wrote:

Multiple death threats against Trump:
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Oh poor me I got shot at ...

Swill
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Cheer up, maybe someone else will try.

Swill

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From: J Carlson <***@gmx.com>
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Post by Governor Swill
No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to

thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently

Post by Governor Swill
is an important step to getting there.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:


https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
Notes
prev | next
(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.


https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

The United States Secret Service is conducting the investigation in this
case. The United States Attorney’s Office, District of Arizona, is
handling the prosecution.


Those can be reported here:

https://tips.fbi.gov/home

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https://www.secretservice.gov/contact

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[Chips Loral]

 Now in  children who are loved rather than abused
by their parents the chance of such serious mental illness

Coach em up the Sandusky way eh?

https://www.dailywire.com/news/trans-six-year-olds-custody-battles-and-tampons-for-boys-tim-walzs-record-on-kids-and-gender-ideology

Tim Walz may have the manner of a kindly, Midwestern dad. But when it
comes to protecting the country’s children from transgender medical
interventions, Walz is not interested. In fact, he wants the opposite.

Vice President Kamala Harris tapped the Minnesota governor as her
running mate Tuesday, prompting scrutiny of his progressive record on
everything from immigration to abortion and gender ideology.

Walz signed a cluster of legislation in April 2023 that established
Minnesota as a haven for children who want puberty blockers, cross-sex
hormones, or transgender surgeries.

One law Walz signed allows Minnesota to seize custody of a child whose
parents refuse to provide “gender affirming care.”

“A court of this state has temporary emergency jurisdiction if the child
is present in this state and … the child has been unable to obtain
gender-affirming health care,” the bill reads.

The same law says Minnesota will refuse to help if another state is
trying to remove a child from his or her parents because the parents are
subjecting the child to hormone treatments or surgeries.

At the signing, Walz squeezed the hand of a 12-year-old boy wearing a
dress who identified as a girl. A six-year-old boy, also in a dress, was
in attendance with his parents, who are raising him as a girl.

“For trans rights,” the squirming six-year-old said when asked by a
reporter why his family was there.

“Guess what? Love wins,” Walz said at the order signing.

Walz’s lieutenant governor, Peggy Flanagan, wore a shirt with a picture
of a knife and the words, “Protect Trans Kids” to the signing.

In May of last year, Walz signed legislation requiring boys’ bathrooms
in public schools to stock free tampons or pads beginning in January 2024.

[Chips Loral]

Post by Bobbie Sellers
Medical intervention in the lives of Transgender children
probably will save lives.

You are one sick and twisted old demonic whore, die real soon, before
you pedo fuck any more poor children, you exterminable vermin.



Coach em up the Sandusky way eh?

https://www.dailywire.com/news/trans-six-year-olds-custody-battles-and-tampons-for-boys-tim-walzs-record-on-kids-and-gender-ideology

Tim Walz may have the manner of a kindly, Midwestern dad. But when it
comes to protecting the country’s children from transgender medical
interventions, Walz is not interested. In fact, he wants the opposite.

Vice President Kamala Harris tapped the Minnesota governor as her
running mate Tuesday, prompting scrutiny of his progressive record on
everything from immigration to abortion and gender ideology.

Walz signed a cluster of legislation in April 2023 that established
Minnesota as a haven for children who want puberty blockers, cross-sex
hormones, or transgender surgeries.

One law Walz signed allows Minnesota to seize custody of a child whose
parents refuse to provide “gender affirming care.”

“A court of this state has temporary emergency jurisdiction if the child
is present in this state and … the child has been unable to obtain
gender-affirming health care,” the bill reads.

The same law says Minnesota will refuse to help if another state is
trying to remove a child from his or her parents because the parents are
subjecting the child to hormone treatments or surgeries.

At the signing, Walz squeezed the hand of a 12-year-old boy wearing a
dress who identified as a girl. A six-year-old boy, also in a dress, was
in attendance with his parents, who are raising him as a girl.

“For trans rights,” the squirming six-year-old said when asked by a
reporter why his family was there.

“Guess what? Love wins,” Walz said at the order signing.

Walz’s lieutenant governor, Peggy Flanagan, wore a shirt with a picture
of a knife and the words, “Protect Trans Kids” to the signing.

In May of last year, Walz signed legislation requiring boys’ bathrooms
in public schools to stock free tampons or pads beginning in January 2024.

[Gerry Robuns]

Red states are shithole states because rightwing ideology and rightists are
inferior.


Some right wing shithole states don't have paved roads. Ever been to
Mississippi or anywhere in Texas outside of a city?


Red State Building Blues

Excessive infrastructure costs plague freeway construction in conservative
areas

High infrastructure construction costs in many American cities, which have
made headlines for several years, are now being formally studied by a team
of New York University researchers. Since much of the work so far has
examined rail infrastructure in dense cities such as New York and Boston,
some Americans may be tempted to write off the issue as simply another
example of blue-state corruption. But a look at some recent freeway
projects in conservative states with a reputation for low costs and
generally good governance suggests that infrastructure cost problems in
the United States may be far more widespread.

Any analysis should first establish a baseline of typical freeway costs in
continental Europe. A contributor to the forum skyscrapercity.com has made
a large compilation of recently completed or planned projects. My own
attempts to find costs for some of the larger projects on this list,
though admittedly unsystematic, suggest that in Europe, a new four-lane
expressway in an undeveloped area without unusual terrain difficulties
should cost about $10 million to $20 million per mile in round numbers,
with some outliers on the high end.

Let’s start by looking at Spain, a nation with some of the world’s lowest
infrastructure costs. A news report from the province of Castilla y León
in 2021 reported on several projects in progress. Among the largest: a new
four-lane freeway segment parallel to an existing road between the towns
of Santiuste and Venta Nueva, already 77 percent completed, was estimated
to cost 86.7 million euros for 16.2 kilometers—roughly $9.3 million per
mile, using a euro-to-dollar conversion rate of 1.1. Another completed
project in the same region, between the towns San Esteban de Gormaz and
Langa de Duero, cost 66.96 million euros for 12.8 kilometers, or about
$9.1 million per mile.

Similar price tags are seen in other European countries with cheap
infrastructure, such as Scandinavia. One of the largest recently finished
freeway projects in Sweden, for instance, is a segment of Riksväg 40, a
road connecting the cities of Gothenburg and Jönköping that is gradually
being upgraded to a four-lane freeway. Seventeen kilometers of this
upgraded road, through hilly terrain near the town of Ulricehamn, opened
in 2015. Veidekke, the contractor for the most complex seven-kilometer
subsegment of this road—including six bridges and a quarter-mile twin-bore
tunnel—claims that this subsegment cost 570 million Swedish kronor, or
roughly $13 million per mile. In Denmark, the Holstebromotorvej, a 39-
kilometer freeway between the small cities of Herning and Holstebro, was
completed in 2018 for 2.85 billion Danish kroner, a quarter less than the
originally projected price and about $17 million per mile. In Norway, a
four-lane freeway running 23 kilometers between the towns of Tvedestrand
and Arendal on the nation’s southeast coast opened in 2019. The project
includes 27 bridges, four short tunnels, and extensive cuttings through
rocky terrain, and cost just over 3 billion Norwegian kroner, or about $22
million per mile—quite a low price considering the geological challenges
and Norway’s high labor costs.

European countries with more expensive rail infrastructure, such as
Germany and the Netherlands, tend to have similar or somewhat higher
freeway costs. In Germany, a recent 14-kilometer expressway segment
through the hills of the Rhineland–Palatinate, opened in 2019, cost only
112 million euros—about $14 million per mile. A large expansion of
Bundesautobahn 14, with several segments already completed, will cost a
planned 1.7 billion euros for 155 kilometers, or about $19 million per
mile. (To be fair, Germany does have more expensive projects, such as a
short urban bypass in the northern part of the country that cost 231.7
million euros for 9.5 kilometers, or $42 million per mile—though this
expense may owe to the freeway’s proximity to a dense urban area,
requiring many overpasses and extensive noise mitigation.) The most
expensive large European project that does not involve considerable
tunneling or pass through a dense city may be the Buitenring Parkstad
Limburg in the Netherlands: a 26-kilometer beltway around a dense urban
agglomeration that had a final bill of 446 million euros, or about $30
million per mile. This sum was enough to provoke a substantial scandal, as
it more than tripled the original budget.

Many routine freeway projects in the U.S., in states with low labor costs
and reputations for good governance, have far exceeded these European
projects for no apparent reason. Consider an in-progress segment of
Interstate 69 in Indiana, running from the Indianapolis beltway to the
town of Martinsville 26 miles to the southwest. In 2018, the expenditure
for the project was estimated at $1.6 billion, or about $62 million per
mile—far above any European project that I know of that does not run
through a dense city or require tunneling. Unlike the European projects
discussed in this essay, moreover, I-69 is not actually a new road. It is
an upgrade of the existing State Route 37, already a four-lane divided
highway, to eliminate some at-grade intersections, widen shoulders, and
otherwise improve the road to Interstate design standards—significantly
less work than a new freeway would be.

Why should this project require three times as much money as wholly new
European freeways? One partial excuse might be the larger number of road
crossings on the project—one source claims that it will involve
reconstruction of 35 overpasses and construction of 39 new ones. But
overpasses are not expensive enough to account fully for the difference.
The Federal Highway Administration reports that outside a few especially
expensive regions such as the Northeast, bridges over freeways cost (in
round numbers) roughly between $100 and $250 per square foot in the United
States—meaning that a 20-foot-wide bridge over a 200-foot-wide freeway
could be expected to require about $1 million in spending.

Another example, in the Midwest: the Wisconsin DOT recently widened a 45-
mile segment of Interstate 39/90 from Madison to the border with Illinois,
adding an additional lane in each direction and reconfiguring a few
interchanges. According to an estimate made in 2018 when the work was well
underway and a projected three years from completion, the project was
estimated at $1.2 billion—roughly $27 million per mile. A more recent
official report from shortly before completion gave the cost as $1.17
billion. This cost per mile would pay for an uncommonly expensive new
freeway in Europe, and merely adding a lane to an existing freeway should
be a much easier project than building a new freeway from scratch.

Finally, let’s consider two projects in Texas, the exemplar of car-loving
red states. The Grand Parkway is a nearly complete third ring road for the
Houston metropolitan area. The last segments still under construction lie
to the east of the city and traverse flat, generally undeveloped
territory. A fact sheet from mid-2020, when these final segments were
approximately half-finished, estimated a cost of $1.26 billion for new
construction or upgrades on a total of 43.6 miles of roadway (not counting
the cost of tolling facilities), plus upgrades to the tolling
infrastructure on a shorter segment of preexisting road. This is a cost of
$28.9 million per mile, which would again be quite high for a new four-
lane freeway in Europe. But the 43.6 miles of new Grand Parkway
construction comprise 37.5 miles of new road that is mostly two lanes,
with a few short four-lane sections to allow passing; and 6.1 miles of
adding four new toll lanes to an existing road.

In San Antonio, meanwhile, the Texas Department of Transportation is
widening Loop 1604, one of the city’s ring roads. A seemingly out-of-date
page on TxDOT’s website lists one segment already let out to contract,
with an estimated cost of $148 million for five miles, or about $30
million per mile—again, significantly above European norms for newly built
freeways and almost on par with boondoggles such as the Buitenring
Parkstad Limburg, for a project that is not a newly built freeway. The
improvements to Loop 1604 principally involve reconfigurations of service
roads and the addition of three new lanes in each direction, with little
additional landscaping or environmental mitigation required: the segment
includes only six crossings of surface roads or other paths, and TxDOT
notes that “all improvements are located within the existing right of way
and easements.” The next road-widening segment has a budget of $234
million for 7.8 miles—again, $30 million per mile.

Uncovering the causes of these differences would be well worth a research
project undertaken by one or more state DOTs. They should itemize in as
much detail as possible the costs of several typical recent freeway
projects in the United States and request similar data from peer agencies
in Europe for comparison. Any inefficiencies in American practices likely
also exist in other aspects of civil infrastructure, not just freeway
construction.

One common complaint among American public-transit advocates is that U.S.
infrastructure planners talk to and learn only from one another, or at
best from other English-speaking nations with many of the same
problems—meaning that obsolete or inefficient methods get established as
best practices. My investigations suggest that even far more routine
infrastructure upgrades such as road widenings suffer from the same
problems. Any state transportation planner willing to go against the grain
and find ways to learn from foreign experiences could likely save
taxpayers billions of dollars.

[Lil dwarf Rudey]

Post by Bobbie Sellers
How the years float by.

YOUR DEATH THREATS AGAINST TRUMP ARE DOCUMENTED:



Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A Terrell/Al
Feldhauser/Malte Runz and a dozen other socks wrote:

Multiple death threats against Trump:
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Post by Bobbie Sellers
No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to

thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently

Post by Bobbie Sellers
is an important step to getting there.

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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:


https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
Notes
prev | next
(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.


https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

The United States Secret Service is conducting the investigation in this
case. The United States Attorney’s Office, District of Arizona, is
handling the prosecution.


Those can be reported here:

https://tips.fbi.gov/home

https://www.justice.gov/action-center/report-crime-or-submit-complaint

https://www.secretservice.gov/contact

https://www.dhs.gov/see-something-say-something/reporting/california


Fellow citizens, won't you join in ending Rudey's terrorism here?

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[Anonymous]

    Cities like San Francisco, Los Angeles, Chicago, New York City contribute

...NOTHING of value to the United States. U.S. GDP is fake and gay.

[Anonymous]

Post by Anonymous

     Cities like San Francisco, Los Angeles, Chicago, New York City contribute

...NOTHING of value

That's wrong, Anony-Mouse, you Nazi gay fake shitbag.

No it's not. Blue cities are FIRE hives and lawyers doing nothing
but issuing permissions for the actual economy in "flyover country"
to produce value.

[Governor Swill]

Post by Anonymous
Blue cities are FIRE hives and lawyers doing nothing
but issuing permissions for the actual economy in "flyover country"
to produce value.

Put down the bong and back away.

#nevertrump

[Chips Loral]

Post by Creon
red state bastards don't take care of their own, so people
come to California, where they can get help.

DUMB FUCK!

People are migrating OUT of Cali-phony-land...in record numbers!

https://siepr.stanford.edu/publications/policy-brief/californias-population-drain

California is losing population to Arizona and Texas at higher levels
than ever before, including a greater share of college graduates and
residents at all income levels.
Two-thirds of those who moved said that politics was not a factor in
their decision, but the population loss has political consequences:
California lost a congressional seat after the 2020 census.
California’s high cost of living has spurred many businesses and
residents to leave the state, posing serious consequences for the
state’s job market and fiscal outlook.
California’s environmental policies and mandates could fuel the economic
and political exodus to more lenient states like Arizona and Texas.


https://www.sfchronicle.com/california/article/population-exodus-2023-18566180.php

California’s population dipped by about 75,000 from 2022 to 2023,
estimates released Tuesday by the Census Bureau shows, with about
38,965,000 million people in the state this year. The state’s population
has fallen since its 2019 peak of 39.5 million,

[Bobbie Sellers]

Post by Chips Loral

Post by Creon
red state bastards don't take care of their own, so people
come to California, where they can get help.

DUMB FUCK!

Not really a very high percentage of houseless people are
coming here from other states. Still they are citizen of the USA
and had rights to rest in public before the SCOUSA deciscion that
they had no right to sleep on the streets.
Out of state homeless immigrants are offered a ticket home
but many refuse because that would mean returing to a dangerous
situation.
And States where the Republican Party has seized control of
the government are stingy and refuse to take the proffered money
of the Taxpayers when it comes with conditions like treating all
American Citizens equally.
By the way big Cities like San Francisco and NYC contribute
a lot more to the taxes than rural states. The rural states get a
a larger share of public moneies than the blue states by and large.

Post by Chips Loral
People are migrating OUT of Cali-phony-land...in record numbers!

More need to go. Especially the big earner who have caused
rents to soar.

Post by Chips Loral
https://siepr.stanford.edu/publications/policy-brief/californias-population-drain
California is losing population to Arizona and Texas at higher levels
than ever before, including a greater share of college graduates and
residents at all income levels.
Two-thirds of those who moved said that politics was not a factor in
California lost a congressional seat after the 2020 census.
California’s high cost of living has spurred many businesses and
residents to leave the state, posing serious consequences for the
state’s job market and fiscal outlook.
California’s environmental policies and mandates could fuel the economic
and political exodus to more lenient states like Arizona and Texas.

No it is the cost of housing of which 40% has been bought up by
large financial institutions with the idea of making a profit. The same
sort of institutions have bought up and are closing Emergency and
regular hospitals all over the nation becasue they want to make money.
Maybe they have chosen the wrong path to increasing their already vast
wealth.
I and many others believe that they have pushed the cost of
housing far past the middle class.

Post by Chips Loral
https://www.sfchronicle.com/california/article/population-exodus-2023-18566180.php
California’s population dipped by about 75,000 from 2022 to 2023,
estimates released Tuesday by the Census Bureau shows, with about
38,965,000 million people in the state this year. The state’s population
has fallen since its 2019 peak of 39.5 million,

The smaller the better as the State's land area will decrease as
the Global Warming continues and sea level rise continues.

bliss

[Lil dwarf Rudey]

Post by Bobbie Sellers
I and many others believe that

1. You are not Blobbie.

2. You are Jonathan D ball.

3. You make death threats on public figures as Rudey:


YOUR DEATH THREATS AGAINST TRUMP ARE DOCUMENTED:



Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A Terrell/Al
Feldhauser/Malte Runz and a dozen other socks wrote:

Multiple death threats against Trump:
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No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to

thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently

Post by Bobbie Sellers
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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:


https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
Notes
prev | next
(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.


https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

The United States Secret Service is conducting the investigation in this
case. The United States Attorney’s Office, District of Arizona, is
handling the prosecution.


Those can be reported here:

https://tips.fbi.gov/home

https://www.justice.gov/action-center/report-crime-or-submit-complaint

https://www.secretservice.gov/contact

https://www.dhs.gov/see-something-say-something/reporting/california


Fellow citizens, won't you join in ending Rudey's terrorism here?

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[Bobbie Sellers]

Post by Lil dwarf Rudey

Post by Bobbie Sellers
I and many others believe that

1. You are not Blobbie.

Indeed I am no Blobbie but Bobbie without a doubt except
when I assume the identiry of Bliss.

Post by Lil dwarf Rudey
2. You are Jonathan D ball.

Neither my name nor my alias.
I never heard of or saw the name "Rudey"
before I downloaded your message.
I have candidly stated repeatedly in many
venue that the USA would better off if Trump kicked
the bucket and that asap.
I believe that the #45th President has violated
his Oath of Office to protect and defend the constiturion
of the USA and further that he in pursuit of gain has
led other Oath-sworn political office holders and
appointed office holders also Oath-sworn to violate
their oaths. If we lived in a state where media was
held to a standard of ethics as shown in old movies,
Trump's name would never be heard again except as
a hissing reference to incompetencey and disloyalty to
the Federal Government and to the States and the
inhabitants thereof.

bliss

[Lil dwarf Rudey]

Post by Lil dwarf Rudey
1. You are not Blobbie.

    Indeed I am no Blobbie

YOUR DEATH THREATS AGAINST TRUMP ARE DOCUMENTED:



Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A Terrell/Al
Feldhauser/Malte Runz and a dozen other socks wrote:

Multiple death threats against Trump:
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No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to

thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently

is an important step to getting there.

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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:


https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
Notes
prev | next
(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.


https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

The United States Secret Service is conducting the investigation in this
case. The United States Attorney’s Office, District of Arizona, is
handling the prosecution.


Those can be reported here:

https://tips.fbi.gov/home

https://www.justice.gov/action-center/report-crime-or-submit-complaint

https://www.secretservice.gov/contact

https://www.dhs.gov/see-something-say-something/reporting/california


Fellow citizens, won't you join in ending Rudey's terrorism here?

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[Chips Loral]

Post by Bobbie Sellers
sea level rise continues

No it doesn't!

https://nov79.com/gbwm/oceans.html

Official measurements show ocean levels increasing at 3.2 mm per year,
which is not much. That's only one foot per century. But even this
amount is probably contrived, because true sea level is almost
impossible to define or measure. As fake surface temperature
measurements show, power mongers in science cannot produce honest
measurements without more accountability than exists in climatology. The
absence of glaciers melting is a more reliable indicator.

The reason why average ocean level is almost impossible to define or
measure is because land is constantly moving up and down for numerous
reasons, while ocean masses shift even more so. How do you get an
average out of it? Contrivers will pick the results they want, as they
did for temperature measurements.

Oceans drop 400 ft (130 m) during ice ages and rise as the ice melts. So
oceans have been rising for the past 20 thousand years.

Measurements are showing that over the past few years ocean levels have
nearly stopped rising, the reason being that ice is accumulating over
central Antarctica due to increased precipitation.Oceans drop 400 ft
(130 m) during ice ages and rise as the ice melts. So oceans have been
rising for the past 20 thousand years.

Measurements are showing that over the past few years ocean levels have
nearly stopped rising, the reason being that ice is accumulating over
central Antarctica due to increased precipitation.


You are one brick thick/stupid forger, Rudey!

[Bobbie Sellers]

Post by Chips Loral

Post by Bobbie Sellers
sea level rise continues

No it doesn't!
https://nov79.com/gbwm/oceans.html

Yes it continues:
I have lived in San Franciso for about 50 years now
and the waterfront districts called the "Embarcadero" and
"Fisherman's Wharf" when I moved here 50 year agao were
dry land except when it rained and then the water ran off
into the drains and the bay.

If now-a-days a King Tide, a less distant position of the Moon
and rainstorm occure those districts are flooded and it takes
some time to clear. SF is going to raise our Ferry Building and
its wharves higher. A Sea Wall is being planned but all these
matters are futile. The water will rise further and faster.
The water will not go down unless somethng initates a new Ice Age
or if faster methods than we have so far to pull carbon
Dioxide out of the air are found, discovered or invented.

I am mot saying that 2 mm/year sea level rise is the right number
but as an example how long with that take to amount to an inch.
just about 10 years. But that is not the rate and the rate
of sea level rise has been accelerating every year.
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_level_rise>

Here are some projections:
Estimating global mean sea-level rise and its uncertainties by 2100 and
2300 from an expert survey
<https://www.nature.com/articles/s41612-020-0121-5>

If you seach on Sea Level rising? You will find lots of Government
agencies agree. The Navy is very concerned about the
loss of present shipyards and dry docks where the massive ships
of the fleet on both coasts can be repaired.
Billion upon Billions of tax and credit against future
taxes will be required to replace or modify existing facilities
States that pass lows like Forida against discussing
the necessary changes should be cut off the federal budgets
except for maybe school lunches, medicare and medic-aide.
Good luck with treatment for your neurotic denial
of reality.
bliss

[Lil dwarf Rudey]

Post by Bobbie Sellers
I have lived in San Franciso

YOUR DEATH THREATS AGAINST TRUMP ARE DOCUMENTED:



Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A Terrell/Al
Feldhauser/Malte Runz and a dozen other socks wrote:

Multiple death threats against Trump:
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Swill

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Post by Bobbie Sellers
No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to

thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently

Post by Bobbie Sellers
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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:


https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
Notes
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(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.


https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

The United States Secret Service is conducting the investigation in this
case. The United States Attorney’s Office, District of Arizona, is
handling the prosecution.


Those can be reported here:

https://tips.fbi.gov/home

https://www.justice.gov/action-center/report-crime-or-submit-complaint

https://www.secretservice.gov/contact

https://www.dhs.gov/see-something-say-something/reporting/california


Fellow citizens, won't you join in ending Rudey's terrorism here?

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[Siri Cruise]

    Not really a very high percentage of houseless people are
coming here from other states.  Still they are citizen of the USA
and had rights to rest in public before the SCOUSA deciscion that
they had no right to sleep on the streets.
    Out of state homeless immigrants are offered a ticket home
but many refuse because that would mean returing to a dangerous

Unless we want people sleeping rough, housing has to be provided.
Putting them in jail works, and it is the most expensive housing.

Property owners like me contribute to the problem. Restricting
housing increases the value of my house. I guess it's only fair I
am taxed to help out.

https://osh.sccgov.org/solutions-homelessness

Not really a very high percentage of houseless people are
coming here from other states. Still they are citizen of the USA
and had rights to rest in public before the SCOUSA deciscion that
they had no right to sleep on the streets.

Maybe we can use the labour to grow new business to make people
self-sufficient.

Out of state homeless immigrants are offered a ticket home
but many refuse because that would mean returing to a dangerous
situation.
And States where the Republican Party has seized control of
the government are stingy and refuse to take the proffered money
of the Taxpayers when it comes with conditions like treating all
American Citizens equally.

They don't try to expand state economies but on beatin g down the
poor to let their rich feel powerful.

By the way big Cities like San Francisco and NYC contribute
a lot more to the taxes than rural states. The rural states get a
a larger share of public moneies than the blue states by and large.
More need to go. Especially the big earner who have caused
rents to soar.

We are a victim of our own success.

[Bill Pfister]

Post by Chips Loral

Post by Creon
red state bastards don't take care of their own, so people
come to California, where they can get help.

DUMB FUCK!

    Not really a very high percentage of houseless people are
coming here from other states.  Still they are citizen of the USA
and had rights to rest in public before the SCOUSA deciscion that
they had no right to sleep on the streets.
    Out of state homeless immigrants are offered a ticket home
but many refuse because that would mean returing to a dangerous
situation.

What can be more dangerous than sleeping on a sidewalk or in a parking
space?

    And States where the Republican Party has seized control of
the government are stingy and refuse to take the proffered money
of the Taxpayers when it comes with conditions like treating all
American Citizens equally.

That statement makes no sense.

    By the way big Cities like San Francisco and NYC contribute
a lot more to the taxes than rural states. The rural states get a
a larger share of public moneies than the blue states by and large.

Not with an $800 million deficit in SF you don't.

Post by Chips Loral
People are migrating OUT of Cali-phony-land...in record numbers!

    More need to go. Especially the big earner who have caused
rents to soar.

Cut state employee benefits. It's obscene to retire making more than
they did when working.

Post by Chips Loral
https://siepr.stanford.edu/publications/policy-brief/californias-population-drain
California is losing population to Arizona and Texas at higher levels
than ever before, including a greater share of college graduates and
residents at all income levels.
Two-thirds of those who moved said that politics was not a factor in
California lost a congressional seat after the 2020 census.
California’s high cost of living has spurred many businesses and
residents to leave the state, posing serious consequences for the
state’s job market and fiscal outlook.
California’s environmental policies and mandates could fuel the
economic and political exodus to more lenient states like Arizona and
Texas.

    No it is the cost of housing of which 40% has been bought up by
large financial institutions with the idea of making a profit. The same
sort of institutions have bought up and are closing Emergency and
regular hospitals all over the nation becasue they want to make money.
Maybe they have chosen the wrong path to increasing their already vast
wealth.
    I and many others believe that they have pushed the cost of
housing far past the middle class.

The problem is Pelosi and Newsom. Those two have done more to ruin
California than any other politicians.

Post by Chips Loral
https://www.sfchronicle.com/california/article/population-exodus-2023-18566180.php
California’s population dipped by about 75,000 from 2022 to 2023,
estimates released Tuesday by the Census Bureau shows, with about
38,965,000 million people in the state this year. The state’s
population has fallen since its 2019 peak of 39.5 million,

    The smaller the better as the State's land area will decrease as
the Global Warming continues and sea level rise continues.

When is this sea level rise going to occur? Shouldn't it have happened
already? It doesn't take that long for melted ice to mix with oceans.
Don't tell me you're another one of these left-wing physics deficient
climate nuts who doesn't understand centrifugal force and what happens
with water when subjected to it.

    bliss

[Governor Swill]

Post by Bill Pfister
The problem is Pelosi and Newsom. Those two have done more to ruin
California than any other politicians.

You say that, but you never say why. You can never point to specific laws and policies
attributable to them that caused whatever issue you're railing about.

#nevertrump

[Bobbie Sellers]

Post by Governor Swill

Post by Bill Pfister
The problem is Pelosi and Newsom. Those two have done more to ruin
California than any other politicians.

You say that, but you never say why. You can never point to specific laws and policies
attributable to them that caused whatever issue you're railing about.
#nevertrump

/S

Yes well neither prevented the housing crisis in affordability nor
solved the homeless problem. They also failed to reinforce all the
dams, bridges and highways in California against the horrible weather
of climate change. They did not totally solve the pollution due to
fracking or shut down the Methane leaks near Los Angeles.
They especially Newsom failed to overcome the pumping
of water from the aquifer of the Central Valley which has
provided the water to replace water sent to Southern California
to fill the swimming pools of the residents of exclusive
neighborhoods.
The could not figure out a way to beat Trump in 2016.
Of course Pelosi was a congressional representative and not
doing much in California and Newsom was just the successor
to Jerry Brown who served non-consequentially 8 terms in total
4 in my youth and 4 in my old age. He did not make many bad
decisions and his career was only marred by the idea that
he was a good fiscally conservative Democrat. Which
was the only real problem with Newsom and with Pelosi.

But those are negligible problems.

What has done the most to ruin California was real estate
promotions in the 20th Century and property speculation especially
in the San Francisco area. Someone failed to prevent WW II and as
a result many troops got to visit California and did their best
to move here bringing along racist attitudes from where ever they
came from. Then they had children raised them to adulthood and
they had more children and that is the root of the problems
of California. Too many of us love it though with the Global
Heating it may become much less attractive. Not to say we
did not have plenty of California grown racists already. The worst
prejudice I saw in my childhood was directed at immigrants from
other US States mainly Oklahoma, Arkansas, and Texas.

bliss

[Chips Loral]

    bliss
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Post by Bobbie Sellers

Post by Governor Swill

Post by Bill Pfister
The problem is Pelosi and Newsom. Those two have done more to ruin
California than any other politicians.

You say that, but you never say why. You can never point to specific laws and policies
attributable to them that caused whatever issue you're railing about.
#nevertrump

/S
Yes well neither prevented the housing crisis in affordability nor
solved the homeless problem. They also failed to reinforce all the
dams, bridges and highways in California against the horrible weather
of climate change. They did not totally solve the pollution due to
fracking or shut down the Methane leaks near Los Angeles.

Much better, thank you for being on the ball! That said, these issues are happening all
across the country so they're not California specific.

Post by Bobbie Sellers
They especially Newsom failed to overcome the pumping
of water from the aquifer of the Central Valley which has
provided the water to replace water sent to Southern California
to fill the swimming pools of the residents of exclusive
neighborhoods.

Too much money to fight. Interestingly, a lot of big ag companies buy/farm land less for
the food production profits than for the right to pump and sell from aquifer.

Post by Bobbie Sellers
The could not figure out a way to beat Trump in 2016.

Trump won in 2016 on a fluke, a clever management of the EC by the RNC.

Post by Bobbie Sellers
Of course Pelosi was a congressional representative and not
doing much in California and Newsom was just the successor
to Jerry Brown who served non-consequentially 8 terms in total
4 in my youth and 4 in my old age. He did not make many bad
decisions and his career was only marred by the idea that
he was a good fiscally conservative Democrat. Which
was the only real problem with Newsom and with Pelosi.
But those are negligible problems.
What has done the most to ruin California was real estate
promotions in the 20th Century and property speculation especially
in the San Francisco area. Someone failed to prevent WW II and as
a result many troops got to visit California and did their best
to move here bringing along racist attitudes from where ever they
came from. Then they had children raised them to adulthood and
they had more children and that is the root of the problems
of California. Too many of us love it though with the Global
Heating it may become much less attractive. Not to say we
did not have plenty of California grown racists already. The worst
prejudice I saw in my childhood was directed at immigrants from
other US States mainly Oklahoma, Arkansas, and Texas.

So we come to your last paragraph where you say without equivocation, that California's
biggest problems had nothing to do with Pelosi or Newsom. You blame them on events that
happened three quarters of a century ago, to times before either of them was born. Don't
forget the massive dust bowl migration to California in the nineteen thirties.

#nevertrump

[Lil dwarf Rudey]

Post by Governor Swill
So we come

YOUR DEATH THREATS AGAINST TRUMP ARE DOCUMENTED:



Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A Terrell/Al
Feldhauser/Malte Runz and a dozen other socks wrote:

Multiple death threats against Trump:
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Cheer up, maybe someone else will try.

Swill

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Post by Governor Swill
No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to

thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently

Post by Governor Swill
is an important step to getting there.

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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:


https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
Notes
prev | next
(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.


https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

The United States Secret Service is conducting the investigation in this
case. The United States Attorney’s Office, District of Arizona, is
handling the prosecution.


Those can be reported here:

https://tips.fbi.gov/home

https://www.justice.gov/action-center/report-crime-or-submit-complaint

https://www.secretservice.gov/contact

https://www.dhs.gov/see-something-say-something/reporting/california


Fellow citizens, won't you join in ending Rudey's terrorism here?

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[Lil dwarf Rudey]

Post by Governor Swill
Too much money to fight.

YOUR DEATH THREATS AGAINST TRUMP ARE DOCUMENTED:



Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A Terrell/Al
Feldhauser/Malte Runz and a dozen other socks wrote:

Multiple death threats against Trump:
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Cheer up, maybe someone else will try.

Swill

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thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently

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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:


https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
Notes
prev | next
(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.


https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

The United States Secret Service is conducting the investigation in this
case. The United States Attorney’s Office, District of Arizona, is
handling the prosecution.


Those can be reported here:

https://tips.fbi.gov/home

https://www.justice.gov/action-center/report-crime-or-submit-complaint

https://www.secretservice.gov/contact

https://www.dhs.gov/see-something-say-something/reporting/california


Fellow citizens, won't you join in ending Rudey's terrorism here?

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[Lil dwarf Rudey]

Post by Governor Swill
you never say why

YOUR DEATH THREATS AGAINST TRUMP ARE DOCUMENTED:



Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A Terrell/Al
Feldhauser/Malte Runz and a dozen other socks wrote:

Multiple death threats against Trump:
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Cheer up, maybe someone else will try.

Swill

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Post by Governor Swill
No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to

thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently

Post by Governor Swill
is an important step to getting there.

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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:


https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
Notes
prev | next
(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.


https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

The United States Secret Service is conducting the investigation in this
case. The United States Attorney’s Office, District of Arizona, is
handling the prosecution.


Those can be reported here:

https://tips.fbi.gov/home

https://www.justice.gov/action-center/report-crime-or-submit-complaint

https://www.secretservice.gov/contact

https://www.dhs.gov/see-something-say-something/reporting/california


Fellow citizens, won't you join in ending Rudey's terrorism here?

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