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The Muslim Brotherhood President
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Praise The Lord - God Is Great
2013-10-12 22:30:49 UTC
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It happens that Joe Cooper formulated :

Fox News is controlled by an Austrailian and a Saudi Muslim Prince who
believes in Sharia Law. Hitler was a Christian, just like Michele
Bachmann. And at least Ted Cruz is from Canada, not Kenya. Canadians
are smarter than us. God hates the USA so much that there's never been
a Pope from the USA. That says a lot. Not that there's a dearth of
priests who love to have sex with little boys, but that's another story
for another time.

But that's OK with me because they fly Old Glory and tell me what I
want to hear. Who said that Sharia Law as a Liberal idea? Did you
know that there are no faggots in Muslim countries because there are no
Republicans? It's true. Rush won't go to Saudi Arabia.

Bow before God and pray to him in the sky!!!

If you hate God, you just aint a 'meican.

Alwaleed owns the largest chunk of News Corp. stock outside the Murdoch
family. Shortly after his purchase of 5.5 percent of News Corp. voting
shares in 2005, Alwaleed gave a speech that made it clear just what he
had bought. As noted in The (U.K.) Guardian, Alwaleed told an audience
in Dubai that it took just one phone call to Rupert Murdoch --
"speaking not as a shareholder but as a viewer," Alwaleed said -- to
get the Fox News crawl reporting "Muslim riots" in France changed to
"civil riots."

This didn't make the "Muslim" riots go away, but Alwaleed managed to
fog our perception of them. With a phone call, the Saudi prince
eliminated the peculiarly Islamic character of the unprecedented French
street violence for both the viewers at home and, more significantly,
for the journalists behind the scenes. When little owner doesn't want
"Muslim" rioting identified and big owner agrees, it sets a marker for
employees. Alwaleed's stake, by the way, is now 7 percent.

We can only speculate on what other acts of influence this nephew of
the Saudi dictator might have since imposed on Fox News and other News
Corp. properties. (I have long argued that News Corp. should register
as a foreign agent, due to the stock owned by a senior member of the
Saudi ruling dynasty.) Alwaleed hasn't shared any other editorial
exploits with the public. But that opening act of eliminating key
information from News Corp.'s coverage of Islamic news might well have
set a pattern of omission.

Recently, such a pattern of omission in News Corp.'s coverage of the
Gore-Al Jazeera deal seems evident. I say "seems," because I can't be
entirely certain that I haven't missed something in my research. But
judging from online searches of news stories and audio transcripts, two
salient points are missing from at least the main body of News Corp.'s
coverage.

One is reference to the noticeable alignment of Al Jazeera with the
Muslim Brotherhood, the global Islamic movement whose motto is, "The
Koran is our law; jihad is our way; dying in the way of Allah is our
highest hope." The second (with an exception noted below) is reference
to Al Jazeera's superstar host and ideological lodestar, Yusuf
al-Qaradawi, a leading Muslim Brotherhood figure. The influence of
al-Qaradawi at the network and in Qatar -- where, according to Freedom
House's 2012 press report, it is against the law for journalists to
criticize the Qatari government, the ruling family or Islam -- can
hardly be overestimated.

Strange omission? This relationship between the Qatari-controlled
network and the Muslim Brotherhood organization has been observed for
years. Back in 2007, for example, Steven Stalinsky reported in The New
York Sun that various Arab commentators referred to Al Jazeera as "the
Muslim Brotherhood channel" and the like. What's more, reference to the
relationship appears at least in passing in coverage of the Gore deal
at mainstream media sites such as USA Today and the Seattle Times. More
discussion is available at some conservative outlets, including Rush
Limbaugh and The Blaze. (Searches at Breitbart and the Washington
Examiner, like News Corp. sites, yielded nothing on these same points.
Call it, perhaps, "the Fox effect.")

Given the rise of Muslim Brotherhood parties in the revolutions of the
so-called Arab Spring -- undeviatingly cheered on by Al Jazeera -- the
network's Muslim Brotherhood connection, which extends to Al Jazeera's
sponsors inside the Qatari ruling family, is a crucial point to miss.
Especially when it seems to be missed across the board.

The same goes for failing to mention Al Jazeera's leading personality,
Yusuf al-Qaradawi, in the Gore deal coverage. This longtime "spiritual
guide" of the Muslim Brotherhood hosts one of Al Jazeera's most popular
shows, "Sharia and Life." Among other poisonous pronouncements,
al-Qaradawi has called for Americans in Iraq and Israelis everywhere to
be targeted by terrorists ("martyrs") who would then find a place in
Islamic paradise. Given Al Gore's refusal to sell his network to Glenn
Beck's The Blaze TV due to political differences, Muslim Brother
Al-Qaradawi and his Shariah ideology become highly relevant. Then
again, maybe one man's news story is just another man's clipping on the
cutting-room floor.

Meanwhile, the one story I found in News Corp. coverage of the Gore
deal that mentions al-Qaradawi -- a column by Gordon Crovitz --
neglected to note al-Qaradawi's place in the Muslim Brotherhood.
Particularly given current events, this is a little like forgetting to
mention that Hermann Goring was in the Nazi Party.

Could normal editorial discretion or plain ignorance be at work here? I
suppose so. Still, there is that tie-in between News Corp. and the
House of Saud to consider, a partnership I find more troubling than
Gore's deal with the Qatari emirate. Not only does Alwaleed own a stake
in News Corp., Murdoch owns an even more substantial stake (18.97
percent) in Alwaleed's Arabic media company Rotana.

Within the Alwaleed-Murdoch-Rotana galaxy is a 24-hour-Islamic outlet
called Al Risala, which Alwaleed founded in 2006. The channel's
director and popular "tele-Islamist" is Tareq Al-Suwaidan, widely
reported to be a leader of the Muslim Brotherhood in Kuwait. The
station's "Supreme Advisory Committee" includes Abdullah Omar Naseef,
who, according to former federal prosecutor Andrew C. McCarthy, is "a
major Muslim Brotherhood figure" involved in the financing of al-Qaida.

Al Risala, then, would seem to fit right into the Al
Jazeera-Qaradawi-Muslim-Brotherhood lineup.

We know Alwaleed has influenced Fox editorial matters before. Could
that Alwaleed influence -- even his very presence - account for why
News Corp. hasn't hit harder on the Muslim Brotherhood and al-Qaradawi
angles of the Gore-Jazeera deal?
Del Amitri
2013-10-12 23:24:40 UTC
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Hitler was a Christian, just like Michele Bachmann.
Godwin's law.
Siri Cruise
2013-10-12 23:37:56 UTC
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Post by Del Amitri
Hitler was a Christian, just like Michele Bachmann.
Godwin's law.
You can't invoke it for a relevant mention, but for derogatory reference. Such
as 'Your welfare policy is as soulless as Michelle Bachmann's eyes.'
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Del Amitri
2013-10-12 23:42:39 UTC
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Post by Siri Cruise
Post by Del Amitri
Hitler was a Christian, just like Michele Bachmann.
Godwin's law.
You can't invoke it
Sorry, too late now.
GOP_Decline_and_Fall
2013-10-13 00:07:32 UTC
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Post by Del Amitri
Post by Siri Cruise
Post by Del Amitri
Hitler was a Christian, just like Michele Bachmann.
Godwin's law.
You can't invoke it
Sorry, too late now.
Incorrect, you abuse Godwin's Law like you abuse everything else.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law#Corollaries_and_usage

While falling afoul of Godwin's law tends to cause the individual
making the comparison to lose his argument or credibility, Godwin's
law itself can be abused as a distraction, diversion or even as
censorship, fallaciously miscasting an opponent's argument as
hyperbole when the comparisons made by the argument are actually
appropriate.
Del Amitri
2013-10-13 00:48:01 UTC
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Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Del Amitri
Post by Siri Cruise
Post by Del Amitri
Hitler was a Christian, just like Michele Bachmann.
Godwin's law.
You can't invoke it
Sorry, too late now.
Incorrect,
Fuck off and die.
Del Amitri
2013-10-13 00:48:01 UTC
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Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Del Amitri
Post by Siri Cruise
Post by Del Amitri
Hitler was a Christian, just like Michele Bachmann.
Godwin's law.
You can't invoke it
Sorry, too late now.
Incorrect,
Fuck off and die.
Johnny Johnson
2013-10-13 07:51:18 UTC
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In article <***@4ax.com>, the Obama-loving and
NRA- and gun rights-hating VLILLLDM Sheila Bryant, posting as
"GOP_Decline_and_Fall"
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Del Amitri
Post by Siri Cruise
Post by Del Amitri
Hitler was a Christian, just like Michele Bachmann.
Godwin's law.
You can't invoke it
Sorry, too late now.
Incorrect, you abuse Godwin's Law like you abuse everything else.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law#Corollaries_and_usage
While falling afoul of Godwin's law tends to cause the individual
making the comparison to lose his argument or credibility, Godwin's
law itself can be abused as a distraction, diversion or even as
censorship, fallaciously miscasting an opponent's argument as
hyperbole when the comparisons made by the argument are actually
appropriate.
Well, Sheila; since Hitler was *not* a Christian, and the reference was
inserted as a back-handed ad hominem attack, "Godwin's Law" is most certainly
applicable:

Religious views of Adolf Hitler

Adolf Hitler was raised by an anticlerical, sceptic father and a devout
Catholic mother. Baptized and confirmed as a child in Austria, he ceased to
participate in the sacraments after childhood. In adulthood, Hitler became
disdainful of Christianity, but in seeking out and in trying to retain power
in Germany, he was prepared to restrain his radical instincts out of
political considerations. It is generally believed by historians that
Hitler's post war and long term goal was the eradication of Christianity in
Germany. Hitler appears not to have believed in the Judeo-Christian notion of
God, though various scholars consider his final religious position may have
been a form of deism. Others consider him "atheist". The question is debated.
During his early career, and for a variety of reasons, he made various
comments against non-Nazi atheistic (i.e. "Bolshevik") movements, and in
favour of so-called positive Christianity (a movement which purged
Christianity of its Jewish elements and instilled it with Nazi philosophy).
In private, confidantes such as Martin Bormann, Joseph Goebbels and Albert
Speer noted that he was hostile to Christianity (though Speer also wrote that
he never formally left the Church).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler

Ergo; both your and your fellow anonymously-posting VLILLLDM "Chine Bleu
Fuzzy Dice" ("Siri Cruise") have just proven that you two lost the argument
*and* your "credibility."

Congratulations! <snicker> :)
GOP_Decline_and_Fall
2013-10-13 12:08:14 UTC
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On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 02:51:18 -0500, Johnny Johnson
Post by Johnny Johnson
NRA- and gun rights-hating VLILLLDM Sheila Bryant, posting as
"GOP_Decline_and_Fall"
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Del Amitri
Post by Siri Cruise
Post by Del Amitri
Hitler was a Christian, just like Michele Bachmann.
Godwin's law.
You can't invoke it
Sorry, too late now.
Incorrect, you abuse Godwin's Law like you abuse everything else.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law#Corollaries_and_usage
While falling afoul of Godwin's law tends to cause the individual
making the comparison to lose his argument or credibility, Godwin's
law itself can be abused as a distraction, diversion or even as
censorship, fallaciously miscasting an opponent's argument as
hyperbole when the comparisons made by the argument are actually
appropriate.
Well, Sheila; since Hitler was *not* a Christian,
That would have been news to Hitler.
Post by Johnny Johnson
and the reference was inserted as a back-handed ad hominem attack,
So you claim,but it was a simple statement of truth.
No, Hitler was a Christian fascist just like Bachmann
Post by Johnny Johnson
Religious views of Adolf Hitler
Ergo; both your and your fellow anonymously-posting VLILLLDM "Chine Bleu
Fuzzy Dice" ("Siri Cruise") have just proven that you two lost the argument
*and* your "credibility."
Congratulations! <snicker> :)
No, actually you have proved you don't know that Hitler was a
Christian

https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler%27s_religious_views

My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a
fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded
only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and
summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest
not as a sufferer but as a fighter.

In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the
passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and
seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and
adders. How terrific was his fight against the Jewish poison.

Today, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize
more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He
had to shed his blood upon the Cross.

As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I
have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice
Klaus Schadenfreude
2013-10-13 12:33:19 UTC
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On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 05:08:14 -0700, GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 02:51:18 -0500, Johnny Johnson
Post by Johnny Johnson
NRA- and gun rights-hating VLILLLDM Sheila Bryant, posting as
"GOP_Decline_and_Fall"
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Del Amitri
Post by Siri Cruise
Post by Del Amitri
Hitler was a Christian, just like Michele Bachmann.
Godwin's law.
You can't invoke it
Sorry, too late now.
Incorrect, you abuse Godwin's Law like you abuse everything else.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law#Corollaries_and_usage
While falling afoul of Godwin's law tends to cause the individual
making the comparison to lose his argument or credibility, Godwin's
law itself can be abused as a distraction, diversion or even as
censorship, fallaciously miscasting an opponent's argument as
hyperbole when the comparisons made by the argument are actually
appropriate.
Well, Sheila; since Hitler was *not* a Christian,
That would have been news to Hitler.
No, but it's news to you.
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Johnny Johnson
and the reference was inserted as a back-handed ad hominem attack,
So you claim,but it was a simple statement of truth.
No, Hitler was a Christian fascist just like Bachmann
No, he wasn't.
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Johnny Johnson
Religious views of Adolf Hitler
Ergo; both your and your fellow anonymously-posting VLILLLDM "Chine Bleu
Fuzzy Dice" ("Siri Cruise") have just proven that you two lost the argument
*and* your "credibility."
Congratulations! <snicker> :)
No, actually you have proved you don't know that Hitler was a
Christian
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler%27s_religious_views
My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a
fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded
only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and
summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest
not as a sufferer but as a fighter.
In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the
passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and
seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and
adders. How terrific was his fight against the Jewish poison.
Today, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize
more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He
had to shed his blood upon the Cross.
As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I
have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice
In adulthood, Hitler became disdainful of Christianity, but in seeking
out and in trying to retain power in Germany, he was prepared to
restrain his radical instincts out of political considerations. It is
generally believed by historians that Hitler's post war and long term
goal was the eradication of Christianity in Germany.[1][2] Hitler
appears not to have believed in the Judeo-Christian
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler

In his semi-autobiographical Mein Kampf, Hitler makes religious
allusions, but declares himself neutral in sectarian matters and
supportive of the separation between church and state, while
criticising political Catholicism. He presents a nihilistic vision, in
which the universe is ordered around principles of struggle between
weak and strong, rather than on conventional Christian notions long
prominent in Germany. While campaigning for office in the early 1930s,
Hitler offered moderate public statements on Christianity, promising
not to interfere with the churches if given power, and calling
Christianity the foundation of German morality. In power, the Hitler
regime conducted a protracted Struggle with the Churches. Hitler moved
to eliminate political Catholicism, while agreeing a Reich concordat
with the Holy See which promised autonomy for the Catholic Church in
Germany. Hitler then routinely violated the treaty, moved to close all
Catholic organisations that weren't strictly religious, and permitted
a persecution of the Catholic Church.

Like your ilk, Hitler liked to "redefine" Chrisitanity to fit his own
twisted beliefs.

He called himself a Christian, but he wasn't. Not even close. Just
like you call yourself an American.
Moder@tor
2013-10-13 12:56:11 UTC
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On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 05:33:19 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 05:08:14 -0700, GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 02:51:18 -0500, Johnny Johnson
Post by Johnny Johnson
NRA- and gun rights-hating VLILLLDM Sheila Bryant, posting as
"GOP_Decline_and_Fall"
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Del Amitri
Post by Siri Cruise
Post by Del Amitri
Hitler was a Christian, just like Michele Bachmann.
Godwin's law.
You can't invoke it
Sorry, too late now.
Incorrect, you abuse Godwin's Law like you abuse everything else.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law#Corollaries_and_usage
While falling afoul of Godwin's law tends to cause the individual
making the comparison to lose his argument or credibility, Godwin's
law itself can be abused as a distraction, diversion or even as
censorship, fallaciously miscasting an opponent's argument as
hyperbole when the comparisons made by the argument are actually
appropriate.
Well, Sheila; since Hitler was *not* a Christian,
That would have been news to Hitler.
No, but it's news to you.
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Johnny Johnson
and the reference was inserted as a back-handed ad hominem attack,
So you claim,but it was a simple statement of truth.
No, Hitler was a Christian fascist just like Bachmann
No, he wasn't.
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Johnny Johnson
Religious views of Adolf Hitler
Ergo; both your and your fellow anonymously-posting VLILLLDM "Chine Bleu
Fuzzy Dice" ("Siri Cruise") have just proven that you two lost the argument
*and* your "credibility."
Congratulations! <snicker> :)
No, actually you have proved you don't know that Hitler was a
Christian
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler%27s_religious_views
My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a
fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded
only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and
summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest
not as a sufferer but as a fighter.
In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the
passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and
seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and
adders. How terrific was his fight against the Jewish poison.
Today, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize
more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He
had to shed his blood upon the Cross.
As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I
have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice
In adulthood, Hitler became disdainful of Christianity, but in seeking
out and in trying to retain power in Germany, he was prepared to
restrain his radical instincts out of political considerations. It is
generally believed by historians that Hitler's post war and long term
goal was the eradication of Christianity in Germany.[1][2] Hitler
appears not to have believed in the Judeo-Christian
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler
In his semi-autobiographical Mein Kampf, Hitler makes religious
allusions, but declares himself neutral in sectarian matters and
supportive of the separation between church and state, while
criticising political Catholicism. He presents a nihilistic vision, in
which the universe is ordered around principles of struggle between
weak and strong, rather than on conventional Christian notions long
prominent in Germany. While campaigning for office in the early 1930s,
Hitler offered moderate public statements on Christianity, promising
not to interfere with the churches if given power, and calling
Christianity the foundation of German morality. In power, the Hitler
regime conducted a protracted Struggle with the Churches. Hitler moved
to eliminate political Catholicism, while agreeing a Reich concordat
with the Holy See which promised autonomy for the Catholic Church in
Germany. Hitler then routinely violated the treaty, moved to close all
Catholic organisations that weren't strictly religious, and permitted
a persecution of the Catholic Church.
Like your ilk, Hitler liked to "redefine" Chrisitanity to fit his own
twisted beliefs.
He called himself a Christian, but he wasn't. Not even close. Just
like you call yourself an American.
Or maybe just like you call yourself correct.
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Klaus Schadenfreude
2013-10-13 12:58:54 UTC
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Post by ***@tor
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 05:33:19 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 05:08:14 -0700, GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 02:51:18 -0500, Johnny Johnson
Post by Johnny Johnson
NRA- and gun rights-hating VLILLLDM Sheila Bryant, posting as
"GOP_Decline_and_Fall"
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Del Amitri
Post by Siri Cruise
Post by Del Amitri
Hitler was a Christian, just like Michele Bachmann.
Godwin's law.
You can't invoke it
Sorry, too late now.
Incorrect, you abuse Godwin's Law like you abuse everything else.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law#Corollaries_and_usage
While falling afoul of Godwin's law tends to cause the individual
making the comparison to lose his argument or credibility, Godwin's
law itself can be abused as a distraction, diversion or even as
censorship, fallaciously miscasting an opponent's argument as
hyperbole when the comparisons made by the argument are actually
appropriate.
Well, Sheila; since Hitler was *not* a Christian,
That would have been news to Hitler.
No, but it's news to you.
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Johnny Johnson
and the reference was inserted as a back-handed ad hominem attack,
So you claim,but it was a simple statement of truth.
No, Hitler was a Christian fascist just like Bachmann
No, he wasn't.
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Johnny Johnson
Religious views of Adolf Hitler
Ergo; both your and your fellow anonymously-posting VLILLLDM "Chine Bleu
Fuzzy Dice" ("Siri Cruise") have just proven that you two lost the argument
*and* your "credibility."
Congratulations! <snicker> :)
No, actually you have proved you don't know that Hitler was a
Christian
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler%27s_religious_views
My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a
fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded
only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and
summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest
not as a sufferer but as a fighter.
In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the
passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and
seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and
adders. How terrific was his fight against the Jewish poison.
Today, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize
more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He
had to shed his blood upon the Cross.
As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I
have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice
In adulthood, Hitler became disdainful of Christianity, but in seeking
out and in trying to retain power in Germany, he was prepared to
restrain his radical instincts out of political considerations. It is
generally believed by historians that Hitler's post war and long term
goal was the eradication of Christianity in Germany.[1][2] Hitler
appears not to have believed in the Judeo-Christian
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler
In his semi-autobiographical Mein Kampf, Hitler makes religious
allusions, but declares himself neutral in sectarian matters and
supportive of the separation between church and state, while
criticising political Catholicism. He presents a nihilistic vision, in
which the universe is ordered around principles of struggle between
weak and strong, rather than on conventional Christian notions long
prominent in Germany. While campaigning for office in the early 1930s,
Hitler offered moderate public statements on Christianity, promising
not to interfere with the churches if given power, and calling
Christianity the foundation of German morality. In power, the Hitler
regime conducted a protracted Struggle with the Churches. Hitler moved
to eliminate political Catholicism, while agreeing a Reich concordat
with the Holy See which promised autonomy for the Catholic Church in
Germany. Hitler then routinely violated the treaty, moved to close all
Catholic organisations that weren't strictly religious, and permitted
a persecution of the Catholic Church.
Like your ilk, Hitler liked to "redefine" Chrisitanity to fit his own
twisted beliefs.
He called himself a Christian, but he wasn't. Not even close. Just
like you call yourself an American.
Or maybe just like you call yourself correct.
http://www.catholicarrogance.org/hitlersbishops.gif
Which doesn't refute a single thing I cited.

Once again, I'm correct. Thanks for the confirmation.
Moder@tor
2013-10-13 13:13:44 UTC
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On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 05:58:54 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by ***@tor
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 05:33:19 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 05:08:14 -0700, GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 02:51:18 -0500, Johnny Johnson
Post by Johnny Johnson
NRA- and gun rights-hating VLILLLDM Sheila Bryant, posting as
"GOP_Decline_and_Fall"
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Del Amitri
Post by Siri Cruise
Post by Del Amitri
Hitler was a Christian, just like Michele Bachmann.
Godwin's law.
You can't invoke it
Sorry, too late now.
Incorrect, you abuse Godwin's Law like you abuse everything else.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law#Corollaries_and_usage
While falling afoul of Godwin's law tends to cause the individual
making the comparison to lose his argument or credibility, Godwin's
law itself can be abused as a distraction, diversion or even as
censorship, fallaciously miscasting an opponent's argument as
hyperbole when the comparisons made by the argument are actually
appropriate.
Well, Sheila; since Hitler was *not* a Christian,
That would have been news to Hitler.
No, but it's news to you.
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Johnny Johnson
and the reference was inserted as a back-handed ad hominem attack,
So you claim,but it was a simple statement of truth.
No, Hitler was a Christian fascist just like Bachmann
No, he wasn't.
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Johnny Johnson
Religious views of Adolf Hitler
Ergo; both your and your fellow anonymously-posting VLILLLDM "Chine Bleu
Fuzzy Dice" ("Siri Cruise") have just proven that you two lost the argument
*and* your "credibility."
Congratulations! <snicker> :)
No, actually you have proved you don't know that Hitler was a
Christian
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler%27s_religious_views
My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a
fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded
only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and
summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest
not as a sufferer but as a fighter.
In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the
passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and
seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and
adders. How terrific was his fight against the Jewish poison.
Today, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize
more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He
had to shed his blood upon the Cross.
As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I
have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice
In adulthood, Hitler became disdainful of Christianity, but in seeking
out and in trying to retain power in Germany, he was prepared to
restrain his radical instincts out of political considerations. It is
generally believed by historians that Hitler's post war and long term
goal was the eradication of Christianity in Germany.[1][2] Hitler
appears not to have believed in the Judeo-Christian
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler
In his semi-autobiographical Mein Kampf, Hitler makes religious
allusions, but declares himself neutral in sectarian matters and
supportive of the separation between church and state, while
criticising political Catholicism. He presents a nihilistic vision, in
which the universe is ordered around principles of struggle between
weak and strong, rather than on conventional Christian notions long
prominent in Germany. While campaigning for office in the early 1930s,
Hitler offered moderate public statements on Christianity, promising
not to interfere with the churches if given power, and calling
Christianity the foundation of German morality. In power, the Hitler
regime conducted a protracted Struggle with the Churches. Hitler moved
to eliminate political Catholicism, while agreeing a Reich concordat
with the Holy See which promised autonomy for the Catholic Church in
Germany. Hitler then routinely violated the treaty, moved to close all
Catholic organisations that weren't strictly religious, and permitted
a persecution of the Catholic Church.
Like your ilk, Hitler liked to "redefine" Chrisitanity to fit his own
twisted beliefs.
He called himself a Christian, but he wasn't. Not even close. Just
like you call yourself an American.
Or maybe just like you call yourself correct.
http://www.catholicarrogance.org/hitlersbishops.gif
Which doesn't refute a single thing I cited.
Once again, I'm correct. Thanks for the confirmation.
Of course it does. Hitler wasn't trying to eliminate Christianity as you cited:

"It is generally believed by historians that Hitler's post war and long term
goal was the eradication of Christianity in Germany."

His partnership with the Catholic Church proves your cite and those *historians*
both wrong. But thanks for playing.
JamesHutchinson
2013-10-13 13:31:14 UTC
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"***@tor" wrote in message news:***@4ax.com...

On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 05:58:54 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by ***@tor
Or maybe just like you call yourself correct.
http://www.catholicarrogance.org/hitlersbishops.gif
Which doesn't refute a single thing I cited.
Once again, I'm correct. Thanks for the confirmation.
Of course it does. Hitler wasn't trying to eliminate Christianity as you
cited:

"It is generally believed by historians that Hitler's post war and long term
goal was the eradication of Christianity in Germany."

His partnership with the Catholic Church proves your cite and those
*historians*
both wrong. But thanks for playing.

#####

Lil' Adolf (your hero) was Jewish!
That's why you admire him for a reason even YOU can't contemplate!
Moder@tor
2013-10-13 14:11:47 UTC
Permalink
Post by ***@tor
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 05:58:54 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by ***@tor
Or maybe just like you call yourself correct.
http://www.catholicarrogance.org/hitlersbishops.gif
Which doesn't refute a single thing I cited.
Once again, I'm correct. Thanks for the confirmation.
"It is generally believed by historians that Hitler's post war and long term
goal was the eradication of Christianity in Germany."
His partnership with the Catholic Church proves your cite and those *historians*
both wrong. But thanks for playing.
#####
Lil' Adolf (your hero) was Jewish!
That's why you admire him for a reason even YOU can't contemplate!
Did I say I admired him? Don't think so. But I did say that he had a strong
alliance with the Catholic Church. It is well documented. But thanks for
playing.
Klaus Schadenfreude
2013-10-13 14:22:17 UTC
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Post by ***@tor
Post by ***@tor
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 05:58:54 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by ***@tor
Or maybe just like you call yourself correct.
http://www.catholicarrogance.org/hitlersbishops.gif
Which doesn't refute a single thing I cited.
Once again, I'm correct. Thanks for the confirmation.
"It is generally believed by historians that Hitler's post war and long term
goal was the eradication of Christianity in Germany."
His partnership with the Catholic Church proves your cite and those *historians*
both wrong. But thanks for playing.
#####
Lil' Adolf (your hero) was Jewish!
That's why you admire him for a reason even YOU can't contemplate!
Did I say I admired him? Don't think so. But I did say that he had a strong
alliance with the Catholic Church.
Too bad we weren't discussing Hitler's alliances. We were discussing
whether or not he was a Christian, and it's well documented that he
was not.

But thanks for playing.

"Laugh laugh laugh laugh."
©Lee Harrison 1957-2012, RIP
Klaus Schadenfreude
2013-10-13 14:22:17 UTC
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Post by ***@tor
Post by ***@tor
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 05:58:54 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by ***@tor
Or maybe just like you call yourself correct.
http://www.catholicarrogance.org/hitlersbishops.gif
Which doesn't refute a single thing I cited.
Once again, I'm correct. Thanks for the confirmation.
"It is generally believed by historians that Hitler's post war and long term
goal was the eradication of Christianity in Germany."
His partnership with the Catholic Church proves your cite and those *historians*
both wrong. But thanks for playing.
#####
Lil' Adolf (your hero) was Jewish!
That's why you admire him for a reason even YOU can't contemplate!
Did I say I admired him? Don't think so. But I did say that he had a strong
alliance with the Catholic Church.
Too bad we weren't discussing Hitler's alliances. We were discussing
whether or not he was a Christian, and it's well documented that he
was not.

But thanks for playing.

"Laugh laugh laugh laugh."
©Lee Harrison 1957-2012, RIP
JamesHutchinson
2013-10-13 14:52:50 UTC
Permalink
Post by ***@tor
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 05:58:54 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by ***@tor
Or maybe just like you call yourself correct.
http://www.catholicarrogance.org/hitlersbishops.gif
Which doesn't refute a single thing I cited.
Once again, I'm correct. Thanks for the confirmation.
"It is generally believed by historians that Hitler's post war and long term
goal was the eradication of Christianity in Germany."
His partnership with the Catholic Church proves your cite and those *historians*
both wrong. But thanks for playing.
#####
Lil' Adolf (your hero) was Jewish!
That's why you admire him for a reason even YOU can't contemplate!
Did I say I admired him?

####
YES!
Moder@tor
2013-10-13 14:58:06 UTC
Permalink
Post by ***@tor
Post by ***@tor
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 05:58:54 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by ***@tor
Or maybe just like you call yourself correct.
http://www.catholicarrogance.org/hitlersbishops.gif
Which doesn't refute a single thing I cited.
Once again, I'm correct. Thanks for the confirmation.
"It is generally believed by historians that Hitler's post war and long term
goal was the eradication of Christianity in Germany."
His partnership with the Catholic Church proves your cite and those *historians*
both wrong. But thanks for playing.
#####
Lil' Adolf (your hero) was Jewish!
That's why you admire him for a reason even YOU can't contemplate!
Did I say I admired him?
####
YES!
Grow up and get a life, ok?
Moder@tor
2013-10-13 14:58:06 UTC
Permalink
Post by ***@tor
Post by ***@tor
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 05:58:54 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by ***@tor
Or maybe just like you call yourself correct.
http://www.catholicarrogance.org/hitlersbishops.gif
Which doesn't refute a single thing I cited.
Once again, I'm correct. Thanks for the confirmation.
"It is generally believed by historians that Hitler's post war and long term
goal was the eradication of Christianity in Germany."
His partnership with the Catholic Church proves your cite and those *historians*
both wrong. But thanks for playing.
#####
Lil' Adolf (your hero) was Jewish!
That's why you admire him for a reason even YOU can't contemplate!
Did I say I admired him?
####
YES!
Grow up and get a life, ok?
JamesHutchinson
2013-10-13 14:52:50 UTC
Permalink
Post by ***@tor
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 05:58:54 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by ***@tor
Or maybe just like you call yourself correct.
http://www.catholicarrogance.org/hitlersbishops.gif
Which doesn't refute a single thing I cited.
Once again, I'm correct. Thanks for the confirmation.
"It is generally believed by historians that Hitler's post war and long term
goal was the eradication of Christianity in Germany."
His partnership with the Catholic Church proves your cite and those *historians*
both wrong. But thanks for playing.
#####
Lil' Adolf (your hero) was Jewish!
That's why you admire him for a reason even YOU can't contemplate!
Did I say I admired him?

####
YES!
Moder@tor
2013-10-13 14:11:47 UTC
Permalink
Post by ***@tor
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 05:58:54 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by ***@tor
Or maybe just like you call yourself correct.
http://www.catholicarrogance.org/hitlersbishops.gif
Which doesn't refute a single thing I cited.
Once again, I'm correct. Thanks for the confirmation.
"It is generally believed by historians that Hitler's post war and long term
goal was the eradication of Christianity in Germany."
His partnership with the Catholic Church proves your cite and those *historians*
both wrong. But thanks for playing.
#####
Lil' Adolf (your hero) was Jewish!
That's why you admire him for a reason even YOU can't contemplate!
Did I say I admired him? Don't think so. But I did say that he had a strong
alliance with the Catholic Church. It is well documented. But thanks for
playing.
JamesHutchinson
2013-10-13 13:31:14 UTC
Permalink
"***@tor" wrote in message news:***@4ax.com...

On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 05:58:54 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by ***@tor
Or maybe just like you call yourself correct.
http://www.catholicarrogance.org/hitlersbishops.gif
Which doesn't refute a single thing I cited.
Once again, I'm correct. Thanks for the confirmation.
Of course it does. Hitler wasn't trying to eliminate Christianity as you
cited:

"It is generally believed by historians that Hitler's post war and long term
goal was the eradication of Christianity in Germany."

His partnership with the Catholic Church proves your cite and those
*historians*
both wrong. But thanks for playing.

#####

Lil' Adolf (your hero) was Jewish!
That's why you admire him for a reason even YOU can't contemplate!
Klaus Schadenfreude
2013-10-13 13:41:18 UTC
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Post by ***@tor
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 05:58:54 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by ***@tor
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 05:33:19 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 05:08:14 -0700, GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 02:51:18 -0500, Johnny Johnson
Post by Johnny Johnson
NRA- and gun rights-hating VLILLLDM Sheila Bryant, posting as
"GOP_Decline_and_Fall"
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Del Amitri
Post by Siri Cruise
Post by Del Amitri
Hitler was a Christian, just like Michele Bachmann.
Godwin's law.
You can't invoke it
Sorry, too late now.
Incorrect, you abuse Godwin's Law like you abuse everything else.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law#Corollaries_and_usage
While falling afoul of Godwin's law tends to cause the individual
making the comparison to lose his argument or credibility, Godwin's
law itself can be abused as a distraction, diversion or even as
censorship, fallaciously miscasting an opponent's argument as
hyperbole when the comparisons made by the argument are actually
appropriate.
Well, Sheila; since Hitler was *not* a Christian,
That would have been news to Hitler.
No, but it's news to you.
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Johnny Johnson
and the reference was inserted as a back-handed ad hominem attack,
So you claim,but it was a simple statement of truth.
No, Hitler was a Christian fascist just like Bachmann
No, he wasn't.
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Johnny Johnson
Religious views of Adolf Hitler
Ergo; both your and your fellow anonymously-posting VLILLLDM "Chine Bleu
Fuzzy Dice" ("Siri Cruise") have just proven that you two lost the argument
*and* your "credibility."
Congratulations! <snicker> :)
No, actually you have proved you don't know that Hitler was a
Christian
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler%27s_religious_views
My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a
fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded
only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and
summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest
not as a sufferer but as a fighter.
In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the
passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and
seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and
adders. How terrific was his fight against the Jewish poison.
Today, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize
more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He
had to shed his blood upon the Cross.
As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I
have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice
In adulthood, Hitler became disdainful of Christianity, but in seeking
out and in trying to retain power in Germany, he was prepared to
restrain his radical instincts out of political considerations. It is
generally believed by historians that Hitler's post war and long term
goal was the eradication of Christianity in Germany.[1][2] Hitler
appears not to have believed in the Judeo-Christian
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler
In his semi-autobiographical Mein Kampf, Hitler makes religious
allusions, but declares himself neutral in sectarian matters and
supportive of the separation between church and state, while
criticising political Catholicism. He presents a nihilistic vision, in
which the universe is ordered around principles of struggle between
weak and strong, rather than on conventional Christian notions long
prominent in Germany. While campaigning for office in the early 1930s,
Hitler offered moderate public statements on Christianity, promising
not to interfere with the churches if given power, and calling
Christianity the foundation of German morality. In power, the Hitler
regime conducted a protracted Struggle with the Churches. Hitler moved
to eliminate political Catholicism, while agreeing a Reich concordat
with the Holy See which promised autonomy for the Catholic Church in
Germany. Hitler then routinely violated the treaty, moved to close all
Catholic organisations that weren't strictly religious, and permitted
a persecution of the Catholic Church.
Like your ilk, Hitler liked to "redefine" Chrisitanity to fit his own
twisted beliefs.
He called himself a Christian, but he wasn't. Not even close. Just
like you call yourself an American.
Or maybe just like you call yourself correct.
http://www.catholicarrogance.org/hitlersbishops.gif
Which doesn't refute a single thing I cited.
Once again, I'm correct. Thanks for the confirmation.
"It is generally believed by historians that Hitler's post war and long term
goal was the eradication of Christianity in Germany."
His partnership with the Catholic Church proves your cite and those *historians*
both wrong. But thanks for playing.
LOL

That's like saying the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact proves Hitler really
liked Russia.

Are you this fucking stupid all the time, or are you putting on a
special show for us?
Moder@tor
2013-10-13 14:24:31 UTC
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On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 06:41:18 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by ***@tor
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 05:58:54 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by ***@tor
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 05:33:19 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 05:08:14 -0700, GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 02:51:18 -0500, Johnny Johnson
Post by Johnny Johnson
NRA- and gun rights-hating VLILLLDM Sheila Bryant, posting as
"GOP_Decline_and_Fall"
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Del Amitri
Post by Siri Cruise
Post by Del Amitri
Hitler was a Christian, just like Michele Bachmann.
Godwin's law.
You can't invoke it
Sorry, too late now.
Incorrect, you abuse Godwin's Law like you abuse everything else.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law#Corollaries_and_usage
While falling afoul of Godwin's law tends to cause the individual
making the comparison to lose his argument or credibility, Godwin's
law itself can be abused as a distraction, diversion or even as
censorship, fallaciously miscasting an opponent's argument as
hyperbole when the comparisons made by the argument are actually
appropriate.
Well, Sheila; since Hitler was *not* a Christian,
That would have been news to Hitler.
No, but it's news to you.
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Johnny Johnson
and the reference was inserted as a back-handed ad hominem attack,
So you claim,but it was a simple statement of truth.
No, Hitler was a Christian fascist just like Bachmann
No, he wasn't.
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Johnny Johnson
Religious views of Adolf Hitler
Ergo; both your and your fellow anonymously-posting VLILLLDM "Chine Bleu
Fuzzy Dice" ("Siri Cruise") have just proven that you two lost the argument
*and* your "credibility."
Congratulations! <snicker> :)
No, actually you have proved you don't know that Hitler was a
Christian
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler%27s_religious_views
My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a
fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded
only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and
summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest
not as a sufferer but as a fighter.
In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the
passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and
seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and
adders. How terrific was his fight against the Jewish poison.
Today, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize
more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He
had to shed his blood upon the Cross.
As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I
have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice
In adulthood, Hitler became disdainful of Christianity, but in seeking
out and in trying to retain power in Germany, he was prepared to
restrain his radical instincts out of political considerations. It is
generally believed by historians that Hitler's post war and long term
goal was the eradication of Christianity in Germany.[1][2] Hitler
appears not to have believed in the Judeo-Christian
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler
In his semi-autobiographical Mein Kampf, Hitler makes religious
allusions, but declares himself neutral in sectarian matters and
supportive of the separation between church and state, while
criticising political Catholicism. He presents a nihilistic vision, in
which the universe is ordered around principles of struggle between
weak and strong, rather than on conventional Christian notions long
prominent in Germany. While campaigning for office in the early 1930s,
Hitler offered moderate public statements on Christianity, promising
not to interfere with the churches if given power, and calling
Christianity the foundation of German morality. In power, the Hitler
regime conducted a protracted Struggle with the Churches. Hitler moved
to eliminate political Catholicism, while agreeing a Reich concordat
with the Holy See which promised autonomy for the Catholic Church in
Germany. Hitler then routinely violated the treaty, moved to close all
Catholic organisations that weren't strictly religious, and permitted
a persecution of the Catholic Church.
Like your ilk, Hitler liked to "redefine" Chrisitanity to fit his own
twisted beliefs.
He called himself a Christian, but he wasn't. Not even close. Just
like you call yourself an American.
Or maybe just like you call yourself correct.
http://www.catholicarrogance.org/hitlersbishops.gif
Which doesn't refute a single thing I cited.
Once again, I'm correct. Thanks for the confirmation.
"It is generally believed by historians that Hitler's post war and long term
goal was the eradication of Christianity in Germany."
His partnership with the Catholic Church proves your cite and those *historians*
both wrong. But thanks for playing.
LOL
That's like saying the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact proves Hitler really
liked Russia.
No it isn't. Stop building straw men:

"My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It
points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded only by a few followers,
recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them
and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In
boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which
tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive
out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was his fight
against the Jewish poison. Today, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion
I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that
He had to shed his blood upon the Cross. As a Christian, I have no duty to allow
myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and
justice."
Adolf Hitler, one decade before his rise to power in a speech in Münich


Around 1937, when Hitler heard that at the instigation of the party and the SS
vast numbers of his followers had left the church because it was obstinately
opposing his plans, he nevertheless ordered his chief associates, above all
Goering and Goebbels, to remain members of the church. He too would remain a
member of the Catholic Church he said, although he had no real attachment to it.
And in fact he remained in the church until his suicide.

— Extract from Inside the Third Reich, the memoir of Albert Speer

The National Socialist State professes its allegiance to positive Christianity.
It will be its honest endeavour to protect both the great Christian Confessions
in their rights, to secure them from interference with their doctrines (Lehren),
and in their duties to constitute a harmony with the views and the exigencies of
the State of today.[94]
-- Adolf Hitler - June 26, 1934

"The National Government will regard it as its first and foremost duty to
revive in the nation the spirit of unity and co-operation. It will preserve and
defend those basic principles on which our nation has been built. It regards
Christianity as the foundation of our national morality, and the family as the
basis of national life."
---Adolf Hitler Feb 1, 1933


Seems your boy was a lock, stock and barrel Christian, Klaus.
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Are you this fucking stupid all the time, or are you putting on a
special show for us?
I'll hand your butt back to you now. Thanks for playing.
Klaus Schadenfreude
2013-10-13 14:23:55 UTC
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Post by ***@tor
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 06:41:18 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by ***@tor
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 05:58:54 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by ***@tor
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 05:33:19 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 05:08:14 -0700, GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 02:51:18 -0500, Johnny Johnson
Post by Johnny Johnson
NRA- and gun rights-hating VLILLLDM Sheila Bryant, posting as
"GOP_Decline_and_Fall"
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Del Amitri
Post by Siri Cruise
Post by Del Amitri
Hitler was a Christian, just like Michele Bachmann.
Godwin's law.
You can't invoke it
Sorry, too late now.
Incorrect, you abuse Godwin's Law like you abuse everything else.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law#Corollaries_and_usage
While falling afoul of Godwin's law tends to cause the individual
making the comparison to lose his argument or credibility, Godwin's
law itself can be abused as a distraction, diversion or even as
censorship, fallaciously miscasting an opponent's argument as
hyperbole when the comparisons made by the argument are actually
appropriate.
Well, Sheila; since Hitler was *not* a Christian,
That would have been news to Hitler.
No, but it's news to you.
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Johnny Johnson
and the reference was inserted as a back-handed ad hominem attack,
So you claim,but it was a simple statement of truth.
No, Hitler was a Christian fascist just like Bachmann
No, he wasn't.
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Johnny Johnson
Religious views of Adolf Hitler
Ergo; both your and your fellow anonymously-posting VLILLLDM "Chine Bleu
Fuzzy Dice" ("Siri Cruise") have just proven that you two lost the argument
*and* your "credibility."
Congratulations! <snicker> :)
No, actually you have proved you don't know that Hitler was a
Christian
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler%27s_religious_views
My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a
fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded
only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and
summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest
not as a sufferer but as a fighter.
In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the
passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and
seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and
adders. How terrific was his fight against the Jewish poison.
Today, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize
more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He
had to shed his blood upon the Cross.
As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I
have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice
In adulthood, Hitler became disdainful of Christianity, but in seeking
out and in trying to retain power in Germany, he was prepared to
restrain his radical instincts out of political considerations. It is
generally believed by historians that Hitler's post war and long term
goal was the eradication of Christianity in Germany.[1][2] Hitler
appears not to have believed in the Judeo-Christian
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler
In his semi-autobiographical Mein Kampf, Hitler makes religious
allusions, but declares himself neutral in sectarian matters and
supportive of the separation between church and state, while
criticising political Catholicism. He presents a nihilistic vision, in
which the universe is ordered around principles of struggle between
weak and strong, rather than on conventional Christian notions long
prominent in Germany. While campaigning for office in the early 1930s,
Hitler offered moderate public statements on Christianity, promising
not to interfere with the churches if given power, and calling
Christianity the foundation of German morality. In power, the Hitler
regime conducted a protracted Struggle with the Churches. Hitler moved
to eliminate political Catholicism, while agreeing a Reich concordat
with the Holy See which promised autonomy for the Catholic Church in
Germany. Hitler then routinely violated the treaty, moved to close all
Catholic organisations that weren't strictly religious, and permitted
a persecution of the Catholic Church.
Like your ilk, Hitler liked to "redefine" Chrisitanity to fit his own
twisted beliefs.
He called himself a Christian, but he wasn't. Not even close. Just
like you call yourself an American.
Or maybe just like you call yourself correct.
http://www.catholicarrogance.org/hitlersbishops.gif
Which doesn't refute a single thing I cited.
Once again, I'm correct. Thanks for the confirmation.
"It is generally believed by historians that Hitler's post war and long term
goal was the eradication of Christianity in Germany."
His partnership with the Catholic Church proves your cite and those *historians*
both wrong. But thanks for playing.
LOL
That's like saying the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact proves Hitler really
liked Russia.
Yeah, it's EXACTLY like that.
Post by ***@tor
"My feeling as a Christian [..]
OK, you really ARE this stupid.

LOL

Again, we're not discussing what Hitler SAID.

But please, feel free to continue your belief that Hitler worshipped a
Jew.

"Laugh laugh laugh laugh."
©Lee Harrison 1957-2012, RIP
Moder@tor
2013-10-13 14:34:40 UTC
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Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
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Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 02:51:18 -0500, Johnny Johnson
Post by Johnny Johnson
NRA- and gun rights-hating VLILLLDM Sheila Bryant, posting as
"GOP_Decline_and_Fall"
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Del Amitri
Post by Siri Cruise
Post by Del Amitri
Hitler was a Christian, just like Michele Bachmann.
Godwin's law.
You can't invoke it
Sorry, too late now.
Incorrect, you abuse Godwin's Law like you abuse everything else.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law#Corollaries_and_usage
While falling afoul of Godwin's law tends to cause the individual
making the comparison to lose his argument or credibility, Godwin's
law itself can be abused as a distraction, diversion or even as
censorship, fallaciously miscasting an opponent's argument as
hyperbole when the comparisons made by the argument are actually
appropriate.
Well, Sheila; since Hitler was *not* a Christian,
That would have been news to Hitler.
No, but it's news to you.
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Johnny Johnson
and the reference was inserted as a back-handed ad hominem attack,
So you claim,but it was a simple statement of truth.
No, Hitler was a Christian fascist just like Bachmann
No, he wasn't.
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Johnny Johnson
Religious views of Adolf Hitler
Ergo; both your and your fellow anonymously-posting VLILLLDM "Chine Bleu
Fuzzy Dice" ("Siri Cruise") have just proven that you two lost the argument
*and* your "credibility."
Congratulations! <snicker> :)
No, actually you have proved you don't know that Hitler was a
Christian
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler%27s_religious_views
My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a
fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded
only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and
summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest
not as a sufferer but as a fighter.
In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the
passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and
seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and
adders. How terrific was his fight against the Jewish poison.
Today, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize
more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He
had to shed his blood upon the Cross.
As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I
have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice
In adulthood, Hitler became disdainful of Christianity, but in seeking
out and in trying to retain power in Germany, he was prepared to
restrain his radical instincts out of political considerations. It is
generally believed by historians that Hitler's post war and long term
goal was the eradication of Christianity in Germany.[1][2] Hitler
appears not to have believed in the Judeo-Christian
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler
In his semi-autobiographical Mein Kampf, Hitler makes religious
allusions, but declares himself neutral in sectarian matters and
supportive of the separation between church and state, while
criticising political Catholicism. He presents a nihilistic vision, in
which the universe is ordered around principles of struggle between
weak and strong, rather than on conventional Christian notions long
prominent in Germany. While campaigning for office in the early 1930s,
Hitler offered moderate public statements on Christianity, promising
not to interfere with the churches if given power, and calling
Christianity the foundation of German morality. In power, the Hitler
regime conducted a protracted Struggle with the Churches. Hitler moved
to eliminate political Catholicism, while agreeing a Reich concordat
with the Holy See which promised autonomy for the Catholic Church in
Germany. Hitler then routinely violated the treaty, moved to close all
Catholic organisations that weren't strictly religious, and permitted
a persecution of the Catholic Church.
Like your ilk, Hitler liked to "redefine" Chrisitanity to fit his own
twisted beliefs.
He called himself a Christian, but he wasn't. Not even close. Just
like you call yourself an American.
Or maybe just like you call yourself correct.
http://www.catholicarrogance.org/hitlersbishops.gif
Which doesn't refute a single thing I cited.
Once again, I'm correct. Thanks for the confirmation.
"It is generally believed by historians that Hitler's post war and long term
goal was the eradication of Christianity in Germany."
His partnership with the Catholic Church proves your cite and those *historians*
both wrong. But thanks for playing.
LOL
That's like saying the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact proves Hitler really
liked Russia.
Yeah, it's EXACTLY like that.
No, you are building a straw man. Stay on the point, loser.
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by ***@tor
"My feeling as a Christian [..]
OK, you really ARE this stupid.
LOL
So you remove all of the quotes where he proclaims his Christianity in hopes
than no one else will see how stupid you look for debating this? Here they are
again:

"My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It
points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded only by a few followers,
recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them
and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In
boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which
tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive
out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was his fight
against the Jewish poison. Today, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion
I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that
He had to shed his blood upon the Cross. As a Christian, I have no duty to allow
myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and
justice."
Adolf Hitler, one decade before his rise to power in a speech in Münich


Around 1937, when Hitler heard that at the instigation of the party and the SS
vast numbers of his followers had left the church because it was obstinately
opposing his plans, he nevertheless ordered his chief associates, above all
Goering and Goebbels, to remain members of the church. He too would remain a
member of the Catholic Church he said, although he had no real attachment to it.
And in fact he remained in the church until his suicide.

— Extract from Inside the Third Reich, the memoir of Albert Speer

The National Socialist State professes its allegiance to positive Christianity.
It will be its honest endeavour to protect both the great Christian Confessions
in their rights, to secure them from interference with their doctrines (Lehren),
and in their duties to constitute a harmony with the views and the exigencies of
the State of today.[94]
-- Adolf Hitler - June 26, 1934

"The National Government will regard it as its first and foremost duty to
revive in the nation the spirit of unity and co-operation. It will preserve and
defend those basic principles on which our nation has been built. It regards
Christianity as the foundation of our national morality, and the family as the
basis of national life."
---Adolf Hitler Feb 1, 1933
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Again, we're not discussing what Hitler SAID.
So you can continue to believe he wasn't a Christian even though he continually
stated such? ROFLMAO.
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
But please, feel free to continue your belief that Hitler worshipped a
Jew.
Did I say that? Nope. But thanks for playing.
Fred C. Dobbs
2013-10-13 14:40:06 UTC
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Post by ***@tor
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Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by ***@tor
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Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by ***@tor
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 05:33:19 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 05:08:14 -0700, GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 02:51:18 -0500, Johnny Johnson
Post by Johnny Johnson
NRA- and gun rights-hating VLILLLDM Sheila Bryant, posting as
"GOP_Decline_and_Fall"
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Del Amitri
Post by Siri Cruise
Post by Del Amitri
Hitler was a Christian, just like Michele Bachmann.
Godwin's law.
You can't invoke it
Sorry, too late now.
Incorrect, you abuse Godwin's Law like you abuse everything else.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law#Corollaries_and_usage
While falling afoul of Godwin's law tends to cause the individual
making the comparison to lose his argument or credibility, Godwin's
law itself can be abused as a distraction, diversion or even as
censorship, fallaciously miscasting an opponent's argument as
hyperbole when the comparisons made by the argument are actually
appropriate.
Well, Sheila; since Hitler was *not* a Christian,
That would have been news to Hitler.
No, but it's news to you.
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Johnny Johnson
and the reference was inserted as a back-handed ad hominem attack,
So you claim,but it was a simple statement of truth.
No, Hitler was a Christian fascist just like Bachmann
No, he wasn't.
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Johnny Johnson
Religious views of Adolf Hitler
Ergo; both your and your fellow anonymously-posting VLILLLDM "Chine Bleu
Fuzzy Dice" ("Siri Cruise") have just proven that you two lost the argument
*and* your "credibility."
Congratulations! <snicker> :)
No, actually you have proved you don't know that Hitler was a
Christian
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler%27s_religious_views
My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a
fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded
only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and
summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest
not as a sufferer but as a fighter.
In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the
passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and
seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and
adders. How terrific was his fight against the Jewish poison.
Today, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize
more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He
had to shed his blood upon the Cross.
As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I
have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice
In adulthood, Hitler became disdainful of Christianity, but in seeking
out and in trying to retain power in Germany, he was prepared to
restrain his radical instincts out of political considerations. It is
generally believed by historians that Hitler's post war and long term
goal was the eradication of Christianity in Germany.[1][2] Hitler
appears not to have believed in the Judeo-Christian
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler
In his semi-autobiographical Mein Kampf, Hitler makes religious
allusions, but declares himself neutral in sectarian matters and
supportive of the separation between church and state, while
criticising political Catholicism. He presents a nihilistic vision, in
which the universe is ordered around principles of struggle between
weak and strong, rather than on conventional Christian notions long
prominent in Germany. While campaigning for office in the early 1930s,
Hitler offered moderate public statements on Christianity, promising
not to interfere with the churches if given power, and calling
Christianity the foundation of German morality. In power, the Hitler
regime conducted a protracted Struggle with the Churches. Hitler moved
to eliminate political Catholicism, while agreeing a Reich concordat
with the Holy See which promised autonomy for the Catholic Church in
Germany. Hitler then routinely violated the treaty, moved to close all
Catholic organisations that weren't strictly religious, and permitted
a persecution of the Catholic Church.
Like your ilk, Hitler liked to "redefine" Chrisitanity to fit his own
twisted beliefs.
He called himself a Christian, but he wasn't. Not even close. Just
like you call yourself an American.
Or maybe just like you call yourself correct.
http://www.catholicarrogance.org/hitlersbishops.gif
Which doesn't refute a single thing I cited.
Once again, I'm correct. Thanks for the confirmation.
"It is generally believed by historians that Hitler's post war and long term
goal was the eradication of Christianity in Germany."
His partnership with the Catholic Church proves your cite and those *historians*
both wrong. But thanks for playing.
LOL
That's like saying the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact proves Hitler really
liked Russia.
Yeah, it's EXACTLY like that.
No, you are building a straw man. Stay on the point, loser.
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by ***@tor
"My feeling as a Christian [..]
OK, you really ARE this stupid.
LOL
So you remove all of the quotes where he proclaims his Christianity
You dumb fucking cunt. Hitler was a "Christian" in exactly the same way
that the Nazis were "socialist": not at all, that is. It was cynical
opportunism. The Nazis made minimum use of Christianity to confront
atheistic Bolshevism; nothing more than that.

Hitler was not a Christian.
--
Any more lip out of you and I'll haul off and let you have it...if you
know what's good for you, you won't monkey around with Fred C. Dobbs.
Moder@tor
2013-10-13 14:57:17 UTC
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Post by ***@tor
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Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by ***@tor
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 06:41:18 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by ***@tor
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 05:58:54 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by ***@tor
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 05:33:19 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 05:08:14 -0700, GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 02:51:18 -0500, Johnny Johnson
Post by Johnny Johnson
NRA- and gun rights-hating VLILLLDM Sheila Bryant, posting as
"GOP_Decline_and_Fall"
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Del Amitri
Post by Siri Cruise
Post by Del Amitri
Hitler was a Christian, just like Michele Bachmann.
Godwin's law.
You can't invoke it
Sorry, too late now.
Incorrect, you abuse Godwin's Law like you abuse everything else.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law#Corollaries_and_usage
While falling afoul of Godwin's law tends to cause the individual
making the comparison to lose his argument or credibility, Godwin's
law itself can be abused as a distraction, diversion or even as
censorship, fallaciously miscasting an opponent's argument as
hyperbole when the comparisons made by the argument are actually
appropriate.
Well, Sheila; since Hitler was *not* a Christian,
That would have been news to Hitler.
No, but it's news to you.
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Johnny Johnson
and the reference was inserted as a back-handed ad hominem attack,
So you claim,but it was a simple statement of truth.
No, Hitler was a Christian fascist just like Bachmann
No, he wasn't.
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Johnny Johnson
Religious views of Adolf Hitler
Ergo; both your and your fellow anonymously-posting VLILLLDM "Chine Bleu
Fuzzy Dice" ("Siri Cruise") have just proven that you two lost the argument
*and* your "credibility."
Congratulations! <snicker> :)
No, actually you have proved you don't know that Hitler was a
Christian
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler%27s_religious_views
My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a
fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded
only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and
summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest
not as a sufferer but as a fighter.
In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the
passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and
seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and
adders. How terrific was his fight against the Jewish poison.
Today, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize
more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He
had to shed his blood upon the Cross.
As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I
have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice
In adulthood, Hitler became disdainful of Christianity, but in seeking
out and in trying to retain power in Germany, he was prepared to
restrain his radical instincts out of political considerations. It is
generally believed by historians that Hitler's post war and long term
goal was the eradication of Christianity in Germany.[1][2] Hitler
appears not to have believed in the Judeo-Christian
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler
In his semi-autobiographical Mein Kampf, Hitler makes religious
allusions, but declares himself neutral in sectarian matters and
supportive of the separation between church and state, while
criticising political Catholicism. He presents a nihilistic vision, in
which the universe is ordered around principles of struggle between
weak and strong, rather than on conventional Christian notions long
prominent in Germany. While campaigning for office in the early 1930s,
Hitler offered moderate public statements on Christianity, promising
not to interfere with the churches if given power, and calling
Christianity the foundation of German morality. In power, the Hitler
regime conducted a protracted Struggle with the Churches. Hitler moved
to eliminate political Catholicism, while agreeing a Reich concordat
with the Holy See which promised autonomy for the Catholic Church in
Germany. Hitler then routinely violated the treaty, moved to close all
Catholic organisations that weren't strictly religious, and permitted
a persecution of the Catholic Church.
Like your ilk, Hitler liked to "redefine" Chrisitanity to fit his own
twisted beliefs.
He called himself a Christian, but he wasn't. Not even close. Just
like you call yourself an American.
Or maybe just like you call yourself correct.
http://www.catholicarrogance.org/hitlersbishops.gif
Which doesn't refute a single thing I cited.
Once again, I'm correct. Thanks for the confirmation.
"It is generally believed by historians that Hitler's post war and long term
goal was the eradication of Christianity in Germany."
His partnership with the Catholic Church proves your cite and those *historians*
both wrong. But thanks for playing.
LOL
That's like saying the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact proves Hitler really
liked Russia.
Yeah, it's EXACTLY like that.
No, you are building a straw man. Stay on the point, loser.
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by ***@tor
"My feeling as a Christian [..]
OK, you really ARE this stupid.
LOL
So you remove all of the quotes where he proclaims his Christianity
You dumb fucking cunt.
Nice try at debate, Spammy. Ad Hominem will never win you any points.
Post by Fred C. Dobbs
Hitler was a "Christian" in exactly the same way
that the Nazis were "socialist": not at all, that is.
Hmm. He was a member of the Catholic Church until he committed suicide, proudly
proclaimed his Christianity in may of his speeches, and regarded Christianity as
the foundation of his party's beliefs. So who should I believe, his words, or
that of a nym-changing useless usenet waste of space that calls me a cunt. Hmmm.
decisions, decisions. I'll go with his words. Sorry.
Post by Fred C. Dobbs
Hitler was not a Christian.
He was a registered member of the Catholic Church until his suicide. Officially
he was a Christian. He proudly proclaimed his Christianity, and stated it was
the foundation for his party's beliefs. Deep inside, who knows. He was in fact a
politician.
Fred C. Dobbs
2013-10-13 15:14:09 UTC
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Post by Fred C. Dobbs
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On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 07:23:55 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
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Post by ***@tor
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 06:41:18 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by ***@tor
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Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
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Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 05:08:14 -0700, GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 02:51:18 -0500, Johnny Johnson
Post by Johnny Johnson
NRA- and gun rights-hating VLILLLDM Sheila Bryant, posting as
"GOP_Decline_and_Fall"
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Del Amitri
Post by Siri Cruise
Post by Del Amitri
Hitler was a Christian, just like Michele Bachmann.
Godwin's law.
You can't invoke it
Sorry, too late now.
Incorrect, you abuse Godwin's Law like you abuse everything else.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law#Corollaries_and_usage
While falling afoul of Godwin's law tends to cause the individual
making the comparison to lose his argument or credibility, Godwin's
law itself can be abused as a distraction, diversion or even as
censorship, fallaciously miscasting an opponent's argument as
hyperbole when the comparisons made by the argument are actually
appropriate.
Well, Sheila; since Hitler was *not* a Christian,
That would have been news to Hitler.
No, but it's news to you.
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Johnny Johnson
and the reference was inserted as a back-handed ad hominem attack,
So you claim,but it was a simple statement of truth.
No, Hitler was a Christian fascist just like Bachmann
No, he wasn't.
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Johnny Johnson
Religious views of Adolf Hitler
Ergo; both your and your fellow anonymously-posting VLILLLDM "Chine Bleu
Fuzzy Dice" ("Siri Cruise") have just proven that you two lost the argument
*and* your "credibility."
Congratulations! <snicker> :)
No, actually you have proved you don't know that Hitler was a
Christian
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler%27s_religious_views
My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a
fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded
only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and
summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest
not as a sufferer but as a fighter.
In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the
passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and
seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and
adders. How terrific was his fight against the Jewish poison.
Today, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize
more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He
had to shed his blood upon the Cross.
As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I
have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice
In adulthood, Hitler became disdainful of Christianity, but in seeking
out and in trying to retain power in Germany, he was prepared to
restrain his radical instincts out of political considerations. It is
generally believed by historians that Hitler's post war and long term
goal was the eradication of Christianity in Germany.[1][2] Hitler
appears not to have believed in the Judeo-Christian
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler
In his semi-autobiographical Mein Kampf, Hitler makes religious
allusions, but declares himself neutral in sectarian matters and
supportive of the separation between church and state, while
criticising political Catholicism. He presents a nihilistic vision, in
which the universe is ordered around principles of struggle between
weak and strong, rather than on conventional Christian notions long
prominent in Germany. While campaigning for office in the early 1930s,
Hitler offered moderate public statements on Christianity, promising
not to interfere with the churches if given power, and calling
Christianity the foundation of German morality. In power, the Hitler
regime conducted a protracted Struggle with the Churches. Hitler moved
to eliminate political Catholicism, while agreeing a Reich concordat
with the Holy See which promised autonomy for the Catholic Church in
Germany. Hitler then routinely violated the treaty, moved to close all
Catholic organisations that weren't strictly religious, and permitted
a persecution of the Catholic Church.
Like your ilk, Hitler liked to "redefine" Chrisitanity to fit his own
twisted beliefs.
He called himself a Christian, but he wasn't. Not even close. Just
like you call yourself an American.
Or maybe just like you call yourself correct.
http://www.catholicarrogance.org/hitlersbishops.gif
Which doesn't refute a single thing I cited.
Once again, I'm correct. Thanks for the confirmation.
"It is generally believed by historians that Hitler's post war and long term
goal was the eradication of Christianity in Germany."
His partnership with the Catholic Church proves your cite and those *historians*
both wrong. But thanks for playing.
LOL
That's like saying the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact proves Hitler really
liked Russia.
Yeah, it's EXACTLY like that.
No, you are building a straw man. Stay on the point, loser.
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by ***@tor
"My feeling as a Christian [..]
OK, you really ARE this stupid.
LOL
So you remove all of the quotes where he proclaims his Christianity
You dumb fucking cunt.
Nice try
Good enough to kick your flabby pimply faggot ass.
Post by ***@tor
Post by Fred C. Dobbs
Hitler was a "Christian" in exactly the same way
that the Nazis were "socialist": not at all, that is.
Hmm. He was a member of the Catholic Church
The church doesn't have membership rolls, you dumb cunt. He was
baptized Catholic in his youth, but he was never a practicing Catholic
in his adult life.
Post by ***@tor
Post by Fred C. Dobbs
Hitler was not a Christian.
He was a registered member
No. No such thing.
--
Any more lip out of you and I'll haul off and let you have it...if you
know what's good for you, you won't monkey around with Fred C. Dobbs.
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2013-10-13 14:57:17 UTC
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Post by ***@tor
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 05:33:19 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 05:08:14 -0700, GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 02:51:18 -0500, Johnny Johnson
Post by Johnny Johnson
NRA- and gun rights-hating VLILLLDM Sheila Bryant, posting as
"GOP_Decline_and_Fall"
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Del Amitri
Post by Siri Cruise
Post by Del Amitri
Hitler was a Christian, just like Michele Bachmann.
Godwin's law.
You can't invoke it
Sorry, too late now.
Incorrect, you abuse Godwin's Law like you abuse everything else.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law#Corollaries_and_usage
While falling afoul of Godwin's law tends to cause the individual
making the comparison to lose his argument or credibility, Godwin's
law itself can be abused as a distraction, diversion or even as
censorship, fallaciously miscasting an opponent's argument as
hyperbole when the comparisons made by the argument are actually
appropriate.
Well, Sheila; since Hitler was *not* a Christian,
That would have been news to Hitler.
No, but it's news to you.
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Johnny Johnson
and the reference was inserted as a back-handed ad hominem attack,
So you claim,but it was a simple statement of truth.
No, Hitler was a Christian fascist just like Bachmann
No, he wasn't.
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Johnny Johnson
Religious views of Adolf Hitler
Ergo; both your and your fellow anonymously-posting VLILLLDM "Chine Bleu
Fuzzy Dice" ("Siri Cruise") have just proven that you two lost the argument
*and* your "credibility."
Congratulations! <snicker> :)
No, actually you have proved you don't know that Hitler was a
Christian
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler%27s_religious_views
My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a
fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded
only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and
summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest
not as a sufferer but as a fighter.
In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the
passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and
seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and
adders. How terrific was his fight against the Jewish poison.
Today, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize
more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He
had to shed his blood upon the Cross.
As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I
have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice
In adulthood, Hitler became disdainful of Christianity, but in seeking
out and in trying to retain power in Germany, he was prepared to
restrain his radical instincts out of political considerations. It is
generally believed by historians that Hitler's post war and long term
goal was the eradication of Christianity in Germany.[1][2] Hitler
appears not to have believed in the Judeo-Christian
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler
In his semi-autobiographical Mein Kampf, Hitler makes religious
allusions, but declares himself neutral in sectarian matters and
supportive of the separation between church and state, while
criticising political Catholicism. He presents a nihilistic vision, in
which the universe is ordered around principles of struggle between
weak and strong, rather than on conventional Christian notions long
prominent in Germany. While campaigning for office in the early 1930s,
Hitler offered moderate public statements on Christianity, promising
not to interfere with the churches if given power, and calling
Christianity the foundation of German morality. In power, the Hitler
regime conducted a protracted Struggle with the Churches. Hitler moved
to eliminate political Catholicism, while agreeing a Reich concordat
with the Holy See which promised autonomy for the Catholic Church in
Germany. Hitler then routinely violated the treaty, moved to close all
Catholic organisations that weren't strictly religious, and permitted
a persecution of the Catholic Church.
Like your ilk, Hitler liked to "redefine" Chrisitanity to fit his own
twisted beliefs.
He called himself a Christian, but he wasn't. Not even close. Just
like you call yourself an American.
Or maybe just like you call yourself correct.
http://www.catholicarrogance.org/hitlersbishops.gif
Which doesn't refute a single thing I cited.
Once again, I'm correct. Thanks for the confirmation.
"It is generally believed by historians that Hitler's post war and long term
goal was the eradication of Christianity in Germany."
His partnership with the Catholic Church proves your cite and those *historians*
both wrong. But thanks for playing.
LOL
That's like saying the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact proves Hitler really
liked Russia.
Yeah, it's EXACTLY like that.
No, you are building a straw man. Stay on the point, loser.
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by ***@tor
"My feeling as a Christian [..]
OK, you really ARE this stupid.
LOL
So you remove all of the quotes where he proclaims his Christianity
You dumb fucking cunt.
Nice try at debate, Spammy. Ad Hominem will never win you any points.
Post by Fred C. Dobbs
Hitler was a "Christian" in exactly the same way
that the Nazis were "socialist": not at all, that is.
Hmm. He was a member of the Catholic Church until he committed suicide, proudly
proclaimed his Christianity in may of his speeches, and regarded Christianity as
the foundation of his party's beliefs. So who should I believe, his words, or
that of a nym-changing useless usenet waste of space that calls me a cunt. Hmmm.
decisions, decisions. I'll go with his words. Sorry.
Post by Fred C. Dobbs
Hitler was not a Christian.
He was a registered member of the Catholic Church until his suicide. Officially
he was a Christian. He proudly proclaimed his Christianity, and stated it was
the foundation for his party's beliefs. Deep inside, who knows. He was in fact a
politician.
Fred C. Dobbs
2013-10-13 14:40:06 UTC
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On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 05:08:14 -0700, GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 02:51:18 -0500, Johnny Johnson
Post by Johnny Johnson
NRA- and gun rights-hating VLILLLDM Sheila Bryant, posting as
"GOP_Decline_and_Fall"
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Del Amitri
Post by Siri Cruise
Post by Del Amitri
Hitler was a Christian, just like Michele Bachmann.
Godwin's law.
You can't invoke it
Sorry, too late now.
Incorrect, you abuse Godwin's Law like you abuse everything else.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law#Corollaries_and_usage
While falling afoul of Godwin's law tends to cause the individual
making the comparison to lose his argument or credibility, Godwin's
law itself can be abused as a distraction, diversion or even as
censorship, fallaciously miscasting an opponent's argument as
hyperbole when the comparisons made by the argument are actually
appropriate.
Well, Sheila; since Hitler was *not* a Christian,
That would have been news to Hitler.
No, but it's news to you.
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Johnny Johnson
and the reference was inserted as a back-handed ad hominem attack,
So you claim,but it was a simple statement of truth.
No, Hitler was a Christian fascist just like Bachmann
No, he wasn't.
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Johnny Johnson
Religious views of Adolf Hitler
Ergo; both your and your fellow anonymously-posting VLILLLDM "Chine Bleu
Fuzzy Dice" ("Siri Cruise") have just proven that you two lost the argument
*and* your "credibility."
Congratulations! <snicker> :)
No, actually you have proved you don't know that Hitler was a
Christian
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler%27s_religious_views
My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a
fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded
only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and
summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest
not as a sufferer but as a fighter.
In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the
passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and
seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and
adders. How terrific was his fight against the Jewish poison.
Today, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize
more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He
had to shed his blood upon the Cross.
As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I
have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice
In adulthood, Hitler became disdainful of Christianity, but in seeking
out and in trying to retain power in Germany, he was prepared to
restrain his radical instincts out of political considerations. It is
generally believed by historians that Hitler's post war and long term
goal was the eradication of Christianity in Germany.[1][2] Hitler
appears not to have believed in the Judeo-Christian
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler
In his semi-autobiographical Mein Kampf, Hitler makes religious
allusions, but declares himself neutral in sectarian matters and
supportive of the separation between church and state, while
criticising political Catholicism. He presents a nihilistic vision, in
which the universe is ordered around principles of struggle between
weak and strong, rather than on conventional Christian notions long
prominent in Germany. While campaigning for office in the early 1930s,
Hitler offered moderate public statements on Christianity, promising
not to interfere with the churches if given power, and calling
Christianity the foundation of German morality. In power, the Hitler
regime conducted a protracted Struggle with the Churches. Hitler moved
to eliminate political Catholicism, while agreeing a Reich concordat
with the Holy See which promised autonomy for the Catholic Church in
Germany. Hitler then routinely violated the treaty, moved to close all
Catholic organisations that weren't strictly religious, and permitted
a persecution of the Catholic Church.
Like your ilk, Hitler liked to "redefine" Chrisitanity to fit his own
twisted beliefs.
He called himself a Christian, but he wasn't. Not even close. Just
like you call yourself an American.
Or maybe just like you call yourself correct.
http://www.catholicarrogance.org/hitlersbishops.gif
Which doesn't refute a single thing I cited.
Once again, I'm correct. Thanks for the confirmation.
"It is generally believed by historians that Hitler's post war and long term
goal was the eradication of Christianity in Germany."
His partnership with the Catholic Church proves your cite and those *historians*
both wrong. But thanks for playing.
LOL
That's like saying the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact proves Hitler really
liked Russia.
Yeah, it's EXACTLY like that.
No, you are building a straw man. Stay on the point, loser.
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by ***@tor
"My feeling as a Christian [..]
OK, you really ARE this stupid.
LOL
So you remove all of the quotes where he proclaims his Christianity
You dumb fucking cunt. Hitler was a "Christian" in exactly the same way
that the Nazis were "socialist": not at all, that is. It was cynical
opportunism. The Nazis made minimum use of Christianity to confront
atheistic Bolshevism; nothing more than that.

Hitler was not a Christian.
--
Any more lip out of you and I'll haul off and let you have it...if you
know what's good for you, you won't monkey around with Fred C. Dobbs.
Moder@tor
2013-10-13 14:34:40 UTC
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On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 05:08:14 -0700, GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 02:51:18 -0500, Johnny Johnson
Post by Johnny Johnson
NRA- and gun rights-hating VLILLLDM Sheila Bryant, posting as
"GOP_Decline_and_Fall"
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Del Amitri
Post by Siri Cruise
Post by Del Amitri
Hitler was a Christian, just like Michele Bachmann.
Godwin's law.
You can't invoke it
Sorry, too late now.
Incorrect, you abuse Godwin's Law like you abuse everything else.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law#Corollaries_and_usage
While falling afoul of Godwin's law tends to cause the individual
making the comparison to lose his argument or credibility, Godwin's
law itself can be abused as a distraction, diversion or even as
censorship, fallaciously miscasting an opponent's argument as
hyperbole when the comparisons made by the argument are actually
appropriate.
Well, Sheila; since Hitler was *not* a Christian,
That would have been news to Hitler.
No, but it's news to you.
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Johnny Johnson
and the reference was inserted as a back-handed ad hominem attack,
So you claim,but it was a simple statement of truth.
No, Hitler was a Christian fascist just like Bachmann
No, he wasn't.
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Johnny Johnson
Religious views of Adolf Hitler
Ergo; both your and your fellow anonymously-posting VLILLLDM "Chine Bleu
Fuzzy Dice" ("Siri Cruise") have just proven that you two lost the argument
*and* your "credibility."
Congratulations! <snicker> :)
No, actually you have proved you don't know that Hitler was a
Christian
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler%27s_religious_views
My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a
fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded
only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and
summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest
not as a sufferer but as a fighter.
In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the
passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and
seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and
adders. How terrific was his fight against the Jewish poison.
Today, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize
more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He
had to shed his blood upon the Cross.
As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I
have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice
In adulthood, Hitler became disdainful of Christianity, but in seeking
out and in trying to retain power in Germany, he was prepared to
restrain his radical instincts out of political considerations. It is
generally believed by historians that Hitler's post war and long term
goal was the eradication of Christianity in Germany.[1][2] Hitler
appears not to have believed in the Judeo-Christian
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler
In his semi-autobiographical Mein Kampf, Hitler makes religious
allusions, but declares himself neutral in sectarian matters and
supportive of the separation between church and state, while
criticising political Catholicism. He presents a nihilistic vision, in
which the universe is ordered around principles of struggle between
weak and strong, rather than on conventional Christian notions long
prominent in Germany. While campaigning for office in the early 1930s,
Hitler offered moderate public statements on Christianity, promising
not to interfere with the churches if given power, and calling
Christianity the foundation of German morality. In power, the Hitler
regime conducted a protracted Struggle with the Churches. Hitler moved
to eliminate political Catholicism, while agreeing a Reich concordat
with the Holy See which promised autonomy for the Catholic Church in
Germany. Hitler then routinely violated the treaty, moved to close all
Catholic organisations that weren't strictly religious, and permitted
a persecution of the Catholic Church.
Like your ilk, Hitler liked to "redefine" Chrisitanity to fit his own
twisted beliefs.
He called himself a Christian, but he wasn't. Not even close. Just
like you call yourself an American.
Or maybe just like you call yourself correct.
http://www.catholicarrogance.org/hitlersbishops.gif
Which doesn't refute a single thing I cited.
Once again, I'm correct. Thanks for the confirmation.
"It is generally believed by historians that Hitler's post war and long term
goal was the eradication of Christianity in Germany."
His partnership with the Catholic Church proves your cite and those *historians*
both wrong. But thanks for playing.
LOL
That's like saying the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact proves Hitler really
liked Russia.
Yeah, it's EXACTLY like that.
No, you are building a straw man. Stay on the point, loser.
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by ***@tor
"My feeling as a Christian [..]
OK, you really ARE this stupid.
LOL
So you remove all of the quotes where he proclaims his Christianity in hopes
than no one else will see how stupid you look for debating this? Here they are
again:

"My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It
points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded only by a few followers,
recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them
and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In
boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which
tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive
out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was his fight
against the Jewish poison. Today, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion
I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that
He had to shed his blood upon the Cross. As a Christian, I have no duty to allow
myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and
justice."
Adolf Hitler, one decade before his rise to power in a speech in Münich


Around 1937, when Hitler heard that at the instigation of the party and the SS
vast numbers of his followers had left the church because it was obstinately
opposing his plans, he nevertheless ordered his chief associates, above all
Goering and Goebbels, to remain members of the church. He too would remain a
member of the Catholic Church he said, although he had no real attachment to it.
And in fact he remained in the church until his suicide.

— Extract from Inside the Third Reich, the memoir of Albert Speer

The National Socialist State professes its allegiance to positive Christianity.
It will be its honest endeavour to protect both the great Christian Confessions
in their rights, to secure them from interference with their doctrines (Lehren),
and in their duties to constitute a harmony with the views and the exigencies of
the State of today.[94]
-- Adolf Hitler - June 26, 1934

"The National Government will regard it as its first and foremost duty to
revive in the nation the spirit of unity and co-operation. It will preserve and
defend those basic principles on which our nation has been built. It regards
Christianity as the foundation of our national morality, and the family as the
basis of national life."
---Adolf Hitler Feb 1, 1933
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Again, we're not discussing what Hitler SAID.
So you can continue to believe he wasn't a Christian even though he continually
stated such? ROFLMAO.
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
But please, feel free to continue your belief that Hitler worshipped a
Jew.
Did I say that? Nope. But thanks for playing.
Klaus Schadenfreude
2013-10-13 14:23:55 UTC
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On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 05:08:14 -0700, GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 02:51:18 -0500, Johnny Johnson
Post by Johnny Johnson
NRA- and gun rights-hating VLILLLDM Sheila Bryant, posting as
"GOP_Decline_and_Fall"
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Del Amitri
Post by Siri Cruise
Post by Del Amitri
Hitler was a Christian, just like Michele Bachmann.
Godwin's law.
You can't invoke it
Sorry, too late now.
Incorrect, you abuse Godwin's Law like you abuse everything else.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law#Corollaries_and_usage
While falling afoul of Godwin's law tends to cause the individual
making the comparison to lose his argument or credibility, Godwin's
law itself can be abused as a distraction, diversion or even as
censorship, fallaciously miscasting an opponent's argument as
hyperbole when the comparisons made by the argument are actually
appropriate.
Well, Sheila; since Hitler was *not* a Christian,
That would have been news to Hitler.
No, but it's news to you.
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Johnny Johnson
and the reference was inserted as a back-handed ad hominem attack,
So you claim,but it was a simple statement of truth.
No, Hitler was a Christian fascist just like Bachmann
No, he wasn't.
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Johnny Johnson
Religious views of Adolf Hitler
Ergo; both your and your fellow anonymously-posting VLILLLDM "Chine Bleu
Fuzzy Dice" ("Siri Cruise") have just proven that you two lost the argument
*and* your "credibility."
Congratulations! <snicker> :)
No, actually you have proved you don't know that Hitler was a
Christian
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler%27s_religious_views
My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a
fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded
only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and
summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest
not as a sufferer but as a fighter.
In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the
passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and
seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and
adders. How terrific was his fight against the Jewish poison.
Today, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize
more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He
had to shed his blood upon the Cross.
As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I
have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice
In adulthood, Hitler became disdainful of Christianity, but in seeking
out and in trying to retain power in Germany, he was prepared to
restrain his radical instincts out of political considerations. It is
generally believed by historians that Hitler's post war and long term
goal was the eradication of Christianity in Germany.[1][2] Hitler
appears not to have believed in the Judeo-Christian
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler
In his semi-autobiographical Mein Kampf, Hitler makes religious
allusions, but declares himself neutral in sectarian matters and
supportive of the separation between church and state, while
criticising political Catholicism. He presents a nihilistic vision, in
which the universe is ordered around principles of struggle between
weak and strong, rather than on conventional Christian notions long
prominent in Germany. While campaigning for office in the early 1930s,
Hitler offered moderate public statements on Christianity, promising
not to interfere with the churches if given power, and calling
Christianity the foundation of German morality. In power, the Hitler
regime conducted a protracted Struggle with the Churches. Hitler moved
to eliminate political Catholicism, while agreeing a Reich concordat
with the Holy See which promised autonomy for the Catholic Church in
Germany. Hitler then routinely violated the treaty, moved to close all
Catholic organisations that weren't strictly religious, and permitted
a persecution of the Catholic Church.
Like your ilk, Hitler liked to "redefine" Chrisitanity to fit his own
twisted beliefs.
He called himself a Christian, but he wasn't. Not even close. Just
like you call yourself an American.
Or maybe just like you call yourself correct.
http://www.catholicarrogance.org/hitlersbishops.gif
Which doesn't refute a single thing I cited.
Once again, I'm correct. Thanks for the confirmation.
"It is generally believed by historians that Hitler's post war and long term
goal was the eradication of Christianity in Germany."
His partnership with the Catholic Church proves your cite and those *historians*
both wrong. But thanks for playing.
LOL
That's like saying the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact proves Hitler really
liked Russia.
Yeah, it's EXACTLY like that.
Post by ***@tor
"My feeling as a Christian [..]
OK, you really ARE this stupid.

LOL

Again, we're not discussing what Hitler SAID.

But please, feel free to continue your belief that Hitler worshipped a
Jew.

"Laugh laugh laugh laugh."
©Lee Harrison 1957-2012, RIP
Siri Cruise
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Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
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On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 02:51:18 -0500, Johnny Johnson
Post by Johnny Johnson
NRA- and gun rights-hating VLILLLDM Sheila Bryant, posting as
"GOP_Decline_and_Fall"
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Del Amitri
Post by Siri Cruise
Post by Del Amitri
Hitler was a Christian, just like Michele Bachmann.
Godwin's law.
You can't invoke it
Sorry, too late now.
Incorrect, you abuse Godwin's Law like you abuse everything else.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law#Corollaries_and_usage
While falling afoul of Godwin's law tends to cause the individual
making the comparison to lose his argument or credibility, Godwin's
law itself can be abused as a distraction, diversion or even as
censorship, fallaciously miscasting an opponent's argument as
hyperbole when the comparisons made by the argument are actually
appropriate.
Well, Sheila; since Hitler was *not* a Christian,
That would have been news to Hitler.
No, but it's news to you.
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Johnny Johnson
and the reference was inserted as a back-handed ad hominem attack,
So you claim,but it was a simple statement of truth.
No, Hitler was a Christian fascist just like Bachmann
No, he wasn't.
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Johnny Johnson
Religious views of Adolf Hitler
Ergo; both your and your fellow anonymously-posting VLILLLDM "Chine Bleu
Fuzzy Dice" ("Siri Cruise") have just proven that you two lost the argument
*and* your "credibility."
Congratulations! <snicker> :)
No, actually you have proved you don't know that Hitler was a
Christian
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler%27s_religious_views
My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a
fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded
only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and
summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest
not as a sufferer but as a fighter.
In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the
passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and
seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and
adders. How terrific was his fight against the Jewish poison.
Today, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize
more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He
had to shed his blood upon the Cross.
As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I
have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice
In adulthood, Hitler became disdainful of Christianity, but in seeking
out and in trying to retain power in Germany, he was prepared to
restrain his radical instincts out of political considerations. It is
generally believed by historians that Hitler's post war and long term
goal was the eradication of Christianity in Germany.[1][2] Hitler
appears not to have believed in the Judeo-Christian
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler
In his semi-autobiographical Mein Kampf, Hitler makes religious
allusions, but declares himself neutral in sectarian matters and
supportive of the separation between church and state, while
criticising political Catholicism. He presents a nihilistic vision, in
which the universe is ordered around principles of struggle between
weak and strong, rather than on conventional Christian notions long
prominent in Germany. While campaigning for office in the early 1930s,
Hitler offered moderate public statements on Christianity, promising
not to interfere with the churches if given power, and calling
Christianity the foundation of German morality. In power, the Hitler
regime conducted a protracted Struggle with the Churches. Hitler moved
to eliminate political Catholicism, while agreeing a Reich concordat
with the Holy See which promised autonomy for the Catholic Church in
Germany. Hitler then routinely violated the treaty, moved to close all
Catholic organisations that weren't strictly religious, and permitted
a persecution of the Catholic Church.
Like your ilk, Hitler liked to "redefine" Chrisitanity to fit his own
twisted beliefs.
He called himself a Christian, but he wasn't. Not even close. Just
like you call yourself an American.
Or maybe just like you call yourself correct.
http://www.catholicarrogance.org/hitlersbishops.gif
Which doesn't refute a single thing I cited.
Once again, I'm correct. Thanks for the confirmation.
"It is generally believed by historians that Hitler's post war and long term
goal was the eradication of Christianity in Germany."
His partnership with the Catholic Church proves your cite and those *historians*
both wrong. But thanks for playing.
LOL
That's like saying the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact proves Hitler really
liked Russia.
"My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It
points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded only by a few followers,
recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them
and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In
boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which
tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive
out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was his fight
against the Jewish poison. Today, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion
I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that
He had to shed his blood upon the Cross. As a Christian, I have no duty to allow
myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and
justice."
Adolf Hitler, one decade before his rise to power in a speech in Münich
Around 1937, when Hitler heard that at the instigation of the party and the SS
vast numbers of his followers had left the church because it was obstinately
opposing his plans, he nevertheless ordered his chief associates, above all
Goering and Goebbels, to remain members of the church. He too would remain a
member of the Catholic Church he said, although he had no real attachment to it.
And in fact he remained in the church until his suicide.
— Extract from Inside the Third Reich, the memoir of Albert Speer
The National Socialist State professes its allegiance to positive Christianity.
It will be its honest endeavour to protect both the great Christian Confessions
in their rights, to secure them from interference with their doctrines (Lehren),
and in their duties to constitute a harmony with the views and the exigencies of
the State of today.[94]
-- Adolf Hitler - June 26, 1934
"The National Government will regard it as its first and foremost duty to
revive in the nation the spirit of unity and co-operation. It will preserve and
defend those basic principles on which our nation has been built. It regards
Christianity as the foundation of our national morality, and the family as the
basis of national life."
---Adolf Hitler Feb 1, 1933
Seems your boy was a lock, stock and barrel Christian, Klaus.
And Putin is a lock, stock, and barrel Christian as well.
--
Guajira Guantanamera: Hell hath no fury like a nation scorned.
:-<> Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. Deleted.
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Hitler was a Christian, just like Michele Bachmann.
Godwin's law.
You can't invoke it
Sorry, too late now.
Incorrect, you abuse Godwin's Law like you abuse everything else.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law#Corollaries_and_usage
While falling afoul of Godwin's law tends to cause the individual
making the comparison to lose his argument or credibility, Godwin's
law itself can be abused as a distraction, diversion or even as
censorship, fallaciously miscasting an opponent's argument as
hyperbole when the comparisons made by the argument are actually
appropriate.
Well, Sheila; since Hitler was *not* a Christian,
That would have been news to Hitler.
No, but it's news to you.
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Johnny Johnson
and the reference was inserted as a back-handed ad hominem attack,
So you claim,but it was a simple statement of truth.
No, Hitler was a Christian fascist just like Bachmann
No, he wasn't.
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Johnny Johnson
Religious views of Adolf Hitler
Ergo; both your and your fellow anonymously-posting VLILLLDM "Chine Bleu
Fuzzy Dice" ("Siri Cruise") have just proven that you two lost the argument
*and* your "credibility."
Congratulations! <snicker> :)
No, actually you have proved you don't know that Hitler was a
Christian
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler%27s_religious_views
My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a
fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded
only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and
summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest
not as a sufferer but as a fighter.
In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the
passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and
seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and
adders. How terrific was his fight against the Jewish poison.
Today, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize
more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He
had to shed his blood upon the Cross.
As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I
have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice
In adulthood, Hitler became disdainful of Christianity, but in seeking
out and in trying to retain power in Germany, he was prepared to
restrain his radical instincts out of political considerations. It is
generally believed by historians that Hitler's post war and long term
goal was the eradication of Christianity in Germany.[1][2] Hitler
appears not to have believed in the Judeo-Christian
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler
In his semi-autobiographical Mein Kampf, Hitler makes religious
allusions, but declares himself neutral in sectarian matters and
supportive of the separation between church and state, while
criticising political Catholicism. He presents a nihilistic vision, in
which the universe is ordered around principles of struggle between
weak and strong, rather than on conventional Christian notions long
prominent in Germany. While campaigning for office in the early 1930s,
Hitler offered moderate public statements on Christianity, promising
not to interfere with the churches if given power, and calling
Christianity the foundation of German morality. In power, the Hitler
regime conducted a protracted Struggle with the Churches. Hitler moved
to eliminate political Catholicism, while agreeing a Reich concordat
with the Holy See which promised autonomy for the Catholic Church in
Germany. Hitler then routinely violated the treaty, moved to close all
Catholic organisations that weren't strictly religious, and permitted
a persecution of the Catholic Church.
Like your ilk, Hitler liked to "redefine" Chrisitanity to fit his own
twisted beliefs.
He called himself a Christian, but he wasn't. Not even close. Just
like you call yourself an American.
Or maybe just like you call yourself correct.
http://www.catholicarrogance.org/hitlersbishops.gif
Which doesn't refute a single thing I cited.
Once again, I'm correct. Thanks for the confirmation.
"It is generally believed by historians that Hitler's post war and long term
goal was the eradication of Christianity in Germany."
His partnership with the Catholic Church proves your cite and those *historians*
both wrong. But thanks for playing.
LOL
That's like saying the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact proves Hitler really
liked Russia.
"My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It
points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded only by a few followers,
recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them
and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In
boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which
tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive
out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was his fight
against the Jewish poison. Today, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion
I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that
He had to shed his blood upon the Cross. As a Christian, I have no duty to allow
myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and
justice."
Adolf Hitler, one decade before his rise to power in a speech in Münich
Around 1937, when Hitler heard that at the instigation of the party and the SS
vast numbers of his followers had left the church because it was obstinately
opposing his plans, he nevertheless ordered his chief associates, above all
Goering and Goebbels, to remain members of the church. He too would remain a
member of the Catholic Church he said, although he had no real attachment to it.
And in fact he remained in the church until his suicide.
— Extract from Inside the Third Reich, the memoir of Albert Speer
The National Socialist State professes its allegiance to positive Christianity.
It will be its honest endeavour to protect both the great Christian Confessions
in their rights, to secure them from interference with their doctrines (Lehren),
and in their duties to constitute a harmony with the views and the exigencies of
the State of today.[94]
-- Adolf Hitler - June 26, 1934
"The National Government will regard it as its first and foremost duty to
revive in the nation the spirit of unity and co-operation. It will preserve and
defend those basic principles on which our nation has been built. It regards
Christianity as the foundation of our national morality, and the family as the
basis of national life."
---Adolf Hitler Feb 1, 1933
Seems your boy was a lock, stock and barrel Christian, Klaus.
And Putin is a lock, stock, and barrel Christian as well.
Interesting that many of the world's leaders have hidden behind religion as a
justification for their power. Many great examples in this country too.
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On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 05:58:54 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
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Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 02:51:18 -0500, Johnny Johnson
Post by Johnny Johnson
Obama-loving and
NRA- and gun rights-hating VLILLLDM Sheila Bryant, posting as
"GOP_Decline_and_Fall"
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Del Amitri
Post by Siri Cruise
Post by Del Amitri
Hitler was a Christian, just like Michele Bachmann.
Godwin's law.
You can't invoke it
Sorry, too late now.
Incorrect, you abuse Godwin's Law like you abuse everything else.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law#Corollaries_and_usage
While falling afoul of Godwin's law tends to cause the individual
making the comparison to lose his argument or credibility, Godwin's
law itself can be abused as a distraction, diversion or even as
censorship, fallaciously miscasting an opponent's argument as
hyperbole when the comparisons made by the argument are actually
appropriate.
Well, Sheila; since Hitler was *not* a Christian,
That would have been news to Hitler.
No, but it's news to you.
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Johnny Johnson
and the reference was inserted as a back-handed ad hominem attack,
So you claim,but it was a simple statement of truth.
No, Hitler was a Christian fascist just like Bachmann
No, he wasn't.
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Johnny Johnson
Religious views of Adolf Hitler
Ergo; both your and your fellow anonymously-posting VLILLLDM "Chine Bleu
Fuzzy Dice" ("Siri Cruise") have just proven that you two lost the argument
*and* your "credibility."
Congratulations! <snicker> :)
No, actually you have proved you don't know that Hitler was a
Christian
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler%27s_religious_views
My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a
fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded
only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and
summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest
not as a sufferer but as a fighter.
In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the
passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and
seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and
adders. How terrific was his fight against the Jewish poison.
Today, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize
more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He
had to shed his blood upon the Cross.
As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I
have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice
In adulthood, Hitler became disdainful of Christianity, but in seeking
out and in trying to retain power in Germany, he was prepared to
restrain his radical instincts out of political considerations. It is
generally believed by historians that Hitler's post war and long term
goal was the eradication of Christianity in Germany.[1][2] Hitler
appears not to have believed in the Judeo-Christian
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler
In his semi-autobiographical Mein Kampf, Hitler makes religious
allusions, but declares himself neutral in sectarian matters and
supportive of the separation between church and state, while
criticising political Catholicism. He presents a nihilistic vision, in
which the universe is ordered around principles of struggle between
weak and strong, rather than on conventional Christian notions long
prominent in Germany. While campaigning for office in the early 1930s,
Hitler offered moderate public statements on Christianity, promising
not to interfere with the churches if given power, and calling
Christianity the foundation of German morality. In power, the Hitler
regime conducted a protracted Struggle with the Churches. Hitler moved
to eliminate political Catholicism, while agreeing a Reich concordat
with the Holy See which promised autonomy for the Catholic Church in
Germany. Hitler then routinely violated the treaty, moved to close all
Catholic organisations that weren't strictly religious, and permitted
a persecution of the Catholic Church.
Like your ilk, Hitler liked to "redefine" Chrisitanity to fit his own
twisted beliefs.
He called himself a Christian, but he wasn't. Not even close. Just
like you call yourself an American.
Or maybe just like you call yourself correct.
http://www.catholicarrogance.org/hitlersbishops.gif
Which doesn't refute a single thing I cited.
Once again, I'm correct. Thanks for the confirmation.
"It is generally believed by historians that Hitler's post war and long term
goal was the eradication of Christianity in Germany."
His partnership with the Catholic Church proves your cite and those *historians*
both wrong. But thanks for playing.
LOL
That's like saying the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact proves Hitler really
liked Russia.
"My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It
points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded only by a few followers,
recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them
and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In
boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which
tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive
out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was his fight
against the Jewish poison. Today, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion
I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that
He had to shed his blood upon the Cross. As a Christian, I have no duty to allow
myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and
justice."
Adolf Hitler, one decade before his rise to power in a speech in Münich
Around 1937, when Hitler heard that at the instigation of the party and the SS
vast numbers of his followers had left the church because it was obstinately
opposing his plans, he nevertheless ordered his chief associates, above all
Goering and Goebbels, to remain members of the church. He too would remain a
member of the Catholic Church he said, although he had no real attachment to it.
And in fact he remained in the church until his suicide.
— Extract from Inside the Third Reich, the memoir of Albert Speer
The National Socialist State professes its allegiance to positive Christianity.
It will be its honest endeavour to protect both the great Christian Confessions
in their rights, to secure them from interference with their doctrines (Lehren),
and in their duties to constitute a harmony with the views and the exigencies of
the State of today.[94]
-- Adolf Hitler - June 26, 1934
"The National Government will regard it as its first and foremost duty to
revive in the nation the spirit of unity and co-operation. It will preserve and
defend those basic principles on which our nation has been built. It regards
Christianity as the foundation of our national morality, and the family as the
basis of national life."
---Adolf Hitler Feb 1, 1933
Seems your boy was a lock, stock and barrel Christian, Klaus.
And Putin is a lock, stock, and barrel Christian as well.
Interesting that many of the world's leaders have hidden behind religion as a
justification for their power. Many great examples in this country too.
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Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 05:08:14 -0700, GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 02:51:18 -0500, Johnny Johnson
Post by Johnny Johnson
NRA- and gun rights-hating VLILLLDM Sheila Bryant, posting as
"GOP_Decline_and_Fall"
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Del Amitri
Post by Siri Cruise
Post by Del Amitri
Hitler was a Christian, just like Michele Bachmann.
Godwin's law.
You can't invoke it
Sorry, too late now.
Incorrect, you abuse Godwin's Law like you abuse everything else.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law#Corollaries_and_usage
While falling afoul of Godwin's law tends to cause the individual
making the comparison to lose his argument or credibility, Godwin's
law itself can be abused as a distraction, diversion or even as
censorship, fallaciously miscasting an opponent's argument as
hyperbole when the comparisons made by the argument are actually
appropriate.
Well, Sheila; since Hitler was *not* a Christian,
That would have been news to Hitler.
No, but it's news to you.
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Johnny Johnson
and the reference was inserted as a back-handed ad hominem attack,
So you claim,but it was a simple statement of truth.
No, Hitler was a Christian fascist just like Bachmann
No, he wasn't.
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Johnny Johnson
Religious views of Adolf Hitler
Ergo; both your and your fellow anonymously-posting VLILLLDM "Chine Bleu
Fuzzy Dice" ("Siri Cruise") have just proven that you two lost the argument
*and* your "credibility."
Congratulations! <snicker> :)
No, actually you have proved you don't know that Hitler was a
Christian
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler%27s_religious_views
My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a
fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded
only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and
summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest
not as a sufferer but as a fighter.
In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the
passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and
seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and
adders. How terrific was his fight against the Jewish poison.
Today, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize
more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He
had to shed his blood upon the Cross.
As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I
have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice
In adulthood, Hitler became disdainful of Christianity, but in seeking
out and in trying to retain power in Germany, he was prepared to
restrain his radical instincts out of political considerations. It is
generally believed by historians that Hitler's post war and long term
goal was the eradication of Christianity in Germany.[1][2] Hitler
appears not to have believed in the Judeo-Christian
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler
In his semi-autobiographical Mein Kampf, Hitler makes religious
allusions, but declares himself neutral in sectarian matters and
supportive of the separation between church and state, while
criticising political Catholicism. He presents a nihilistic vision, in
which the universe is ordered around principles of struggle between
weak and strong, rather than on conventional Christian notions long
prominent in Germany. While campaigning for office in the early 1930s,
Hitler offered moderate public statements on Christianity, promising
not to interfere with the churches if given power, and calling
Christianity the foundation of German morality. In power, the Hitler
regime conducted a protracted Struggle with the Churches. Hitler moved
to eliminate political Catholicism, while agreeing a Reich concordat
with the Holy See which promised autonomy for the Catholic Church in
Germany. Hitler then routinely violated the treaty, moved to close all
Catholic organisations that weren't strictly religious, and permitted
a persecution of the Catholic Church.
Like your ilk, Hitler liked to "redefine" Chrisitanity to fit his own
twisted beliefs.
He called himself a Christian, but he wasn't. Not even close. Just
like you call yourself an American.
Or maybe just like you call yourself correct.
http://www.catholicarrogance.org/hitlersbishops.gif
Which doesn't refute a single thing I cited.
Once again, I'm correct. Thanks for the confirmation.
"It is generally believed by historians that Hitler's post war and long term
goal was the eradication of Christianity in Germany."
His partnership with the Catholic Church proves your cite and those *historians*
both wrong. But thanks for playing.
LOL
That's like saying the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact proves Hitler really
liked Russia.
"My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It
points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded only by a few followers,
recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them
and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In
boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which
tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive
out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was his fight
against the Jewish poison. Today, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion
I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that
He had to shed his blood upon the Cross. As a Christian, I have no duty to allow
myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and
justice."
Adolf Hitler, one decade before his rise to power in a speech in Münich
Around 1937, when Hitler heard that at the instigation of the party and the SS
vast numbers of his followers had left the church because it was obstinately
opposing his plans, he nevertheless ordered his chief associates, above all
Goering and Goebbels, to remain members of the church. He too would remain a
member of the Catholic Church he said, although he had no real attachment to it.
And in fact he remained in the church until his suicide.
— Extract from Inside the Third Reich, the memoir of Albert Speer
The National Socialist State professes its allegiance to positive Christianity.
It will be its honest endeavour to protect both the great Christian Confessions
in their rights, to secure them from interference with their doctrines (Lehren),
and in their duties to constitute a harmony with the views and the exigencies of
the State of today.[94]
-- Adolf Hitler - June 26, 1934
"The National Government will regard it as its first and foremost duty to
revive in the nation the spirit of unity and co-operation. It will preserve and
defend those basic principles on which our nation has been built. It regards
Christianity as the foundation of our national morality, and the family as the
basis of national life."
---Adolf Hitler Feb 1, 1933
Seems your boy was a lock, stock and barrel Christian, Klaus.
And Putin is a lock, stock, and barrel Christian as well.
--
Guajira Guantanamera: Hell hath no fury like a nation scorned.
:-<> Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. Deleted.
CIA Constitution patriot terrorism freedom Snowden
Paid Maternity Leave NSA fodder Dirty Dozen 2 Bomb
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Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
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Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 05:08:14 -0700, GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 02:51:18 -0500, Johnny Johnson
Post by Johnny Johnson
NRA- and gun rights-hating VLILLLDM Sheila Bryant, posting as
"GOP_Decline_and_Fall"
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Del Amitri
Post by Siri Cruise
Post by Del Amitri
Hitler was a Christian, just like Michele Bachmann.
Godwin's law.
You can't invoke it
Sorry, too late now.
Incorrect, you abuse Godwin's Law like you abuse everything else.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law#Corollaries_and_usage
While falling afoul of Godwin's law tends to cause the individual
making the comparison to lose his argument or credibility, Godwin's
law itself can be abused as a distraction, diversion or even as
censorship, fallaciously miscasting an opponent's argument as
hyperbole when the comparisons made by the argument are actually
appropriate.
Well, Sheila; since Hitler was *not* a Christian,
That would have been news to Hitler.
No, but it's news to you.
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Johnny Johnson
and the reference was inserted as a back-handed ad hominem attack,
So you claim,but it was a simple statement of truth.
No, Hitler was a Christian fascist just like Bachmann
No, he wasn't.
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Johnny Johnson
Religious views of Adolf Hitler
Ergo; both your and your fellow anonymously-posting VLILLLDM "Chine Bleu
Fuzzy Dice" ("Siri Cruise") have just proven that you two lost the argument
*and* your "credibility."
Congratulations! <snicker> :)
No, actually you have proved you don't know that Hitler was a
Christian
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler%27s_religious_views
My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a
fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded
only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and
summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest
not as a sufferer but as a fighter.
In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the
passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and
seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and
adders. How terrific was his fight against the Jewish poison.
Today, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize
more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He
had to shed his blood upon the Cross.
As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I
have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice
In adulthood, Hitler became disdainful of Christianity, but in seeking
out and in trying to retain power in Germany, he was prepared to
restrain his radical instincts out of political considerations. It is
generally believed by historians that Hitler's post war and long term
goal was the eradication of Christianity in Germany.[1][2] Hitler
appears not to have believed in the Judeo-Christian
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler
In his semi-autobiographical Mein Kampf, Hitler makes religious
allusions, but declares himself neutral in sectarian matters and
supportive of the separation between church and state, while
criticising political Catholicism. He presents a nihilistic vision, in
which the universe is ordered around principles of struggle between
weak and strong, rather than on conventional Christian notions long
prominent in Germany. While campaigning for office in the early 1930s,
Hitler offered moderate public statements on Christianity, promising
not to interfere with the churches if given power, and calling
Christianity the foundation of German morality. In power, the Hitler
regime conducted a protracted Struggle with the Churches. Hitler moved
to eliminate political Catholicism, while agreeing a Reich concordat
with the Holy See which promised autonomy for the Catholic Church in
Germany. Hitler then routinely violated the treaty, moved to close all
Catholic organisations that weren't strictly religious, and permitted
a persecution of the Catholic Church.
Like your ilk, Hitler liked to "redefine" Chrisitanity to fit his own
twisted beliefs.
He called himself a Christian, but he wasn't. Not even close. Just
like you call yourself an American.
Or maybe just like you call yourself correct.
http://www.catholicarrogance.org/hitlersbishops.gif
Which doesn't refute a single thing I cited.
Once again, I'm correct. Thanks for the confirmation.
"It is generally believed by historians that Hitler's post war and long term
goal was the eradication of Christianity in Germany."
His partnership with the Catholic Church proves your cite and those *historians*
both wrong. But thanks for playing.
LOL
That's like saying the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact proves Hitler really
liked Russia.
No it isn't. Stop building straw men:

"My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It
points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded only by a few followers,
recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them
and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In
boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which
tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive
out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was his fight
against the Jewish poison. Today, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion
I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that
He had to shed his blood upon the Cross. As a Christian, I have no duty to allow
myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and
justice."
Adolf Hitler, one decade before his rise to power in a speech in Münich


Around 1937, when Hitler heard that at the instigation of the party and the SS
vast numbers of his followers had left the church because it was obstinately
opposing his plans, he nevertheless ordered his chief associates, above all
Goering and Goebbels, to remain members of the church. He too would remain a
member of the Catholic Church he said, although he had no real attachment to it.
And in fact he remained in the church until his suicide.

— Extract from Inside the Third Reich, the memoir of Albert Speer

The National Socialist State professes its allegiance to positive Christianity.
It will be its honest endeavour to protect both the great Christian Confessions
in their rights, to secure them from interference with their doctrines (Lehren),
and in their duties to constitute a harmony with the views and the exigencies of
the State of today.[94]
-- Adolf Hitler - June 26, 1934

"The National Government will regard it as its first and foremost duty to
revive in the nation the spirit of unity and co-operation. It will preserve and
defend those basic principles on which our nation has been built. It regards
Christianity as the foundation of our national morality, and the family as the
basis of national life."
---Adolf Hitler Feb 1, 1933


Seems your boy was a lock, stock and barrel Christian, Klaus.
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Are you this fucking stupid all the time, or are you putting on a
special show for us?
I'll hand your butt back to you now. Thanks for playing.
Klaus Schadenfreude
2013-10-13 13:41:18 UTC
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On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 05:58:54 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by ***@tor
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 05:33:19 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 05:08:14 -0700, GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 02:51:18 -0500, Johnny Johnson
Post by Johnny Johnson
NRA- and gun rights-hating VLILLLDM Sheila Bryant, posting as
"GOP_Decline_and_Fall"
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Del Amitri
Post by Siri Cruise
Post by Del Amitri
Hitler was a Christian, just like Michele Bachmann.
Godwin's law.
You can't invoke it
Sorry, too late now.
Incorrect, you abuse Godwin's Law like you abuse everything else.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law#Corollaries_and_usage
While falling afoul of Godwin's law tends to cause the individual
making the comparison to lose his argument or credibility, Godwin's
law itself can be abused as a distraction, diversion or even as
censorship, fallaciously miscasting an opponent's argument as
hyperbole when the comparisons made by the argument are actually
appropriate.
Well, Sheila; since Hitler was *not* a Christian,
That would have been news to Hitler.
No, but it's news to you.
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Johnny Johnson
and the reference was inserted as a back-handed ad hominem attack,
So you claim,but it was a simple statement of truth.
No, Hitler was a Christian fascist just like Bachmann
No, he wasn't.
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Johnny Johnson
Religious views of Adolf Hitler
Ergo; both your and your fellow anonymously-posting VLILLLDM "Chine Bleu
Fuzzy Dice" ("Siri Cruise") have just proven that you two lost the argument
*and* your "credibility."
Congratulations! <snicker> :)
No, actually you have proved you don't know that Hitler was a
Christian
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler%27s_religious_views
My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a
fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded
only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and
summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest
not as a sufferer but as a fighter.
In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the
passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and
seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and
adders. How terrific was his fight against the Jewish poison.
Today, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize
more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He
had to shed his blood upon the Cross.
As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I
have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice
In adulthood, Hitler became disdainful of Christianity, but in seeking
out and in trying to retain power in Germany, he was prepared to
restrain his radical instincts out of political considerations. It is
generally believed by historians that Hitler's post war and long term
goal was the eradication of Christianity in Germany.[1][2] Hitler
appears not to have believed in the Judeo-Christian
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler
In his semi-autobiographical Mein Kampf, Hitler makes religious
allusions, but declares himself neutral in sectarian matters and
supportive of the separation between church and state, while
criticising political Catholicism. He presents a nihilistic vision, in
which the universe is ordered around principles of struggle between
weak and strong, rather than on conventional Christian notions long
prominent in Germany. While campaigning for office in the early 1930s,
Hitler offered moderate public statements on Christianity, promising
not to interfere with the churches if given power, and calling
Christianity the foundation of German morality. In power, the Hitler
regime conducted a protracted Struggle with the Churches. Hitler moved
to eliminate political Catholicism, while agreeing a Reich concordat
with the Holy See which promised autonomy for the Catholic Church in
Germany. Hitler then routinely violated the treaty, moved to close all
Catholic organisations that weren't strictly religious, and permitted
a persecution of the Catholic Church.
Like your ilk, Hitler liked to "redefine" Chrisitanity to fit his own
twisted beliefs.
He called himself a Christian, but he wasn't. Not even close. Just
like you call yourself an American.
Or maybe just like you call yourself correct.
http://www.catholicarrogance.org/hitlersbishops.gif
Which doesn't refute a single thing I cited.
Once again, I'm correct. Thanks for the confirmation.
"It is generally believed by historians that Hitler's post war and long term
goal was the eradication of Christianity in Germany."
His partnership with the Catholic Church proves your cite and those *historians*
both wrong. But thanks for playing.
LOL

That's like saying the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact proves Hitler really
liked Russia.

Are you this fucking stupid all the time, or are you putting on a
special show for us?
Siri Cruise
2013-10-13 13:59:27 UTC
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"It is generally believed by historians that Hitler's post war and long term
goal was the eradication of Christianity in Germany."
His partnership with the Catholic Church proves your cite and those *historians*
both wrong. But thanks for playing.
So anyone who agrees to give a church more power in exchange for keeping the
population under control must be a devout follower of the church. I guess that
Putin was actually a secret Russian Orthodox follower even whilst running the
KGB.
--
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2013-10-13 14:25:57 UTC
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Post by ***@tor
"It is generally believed by historians that Hitler's post war and long term
goal was the eradication of Christianity in Germany."
His partnership with the Catholic Church proves your cite and those *historians*
both wrong. But thanks for playing.
So anyone who agrees to give a church more power in exchange for keeping the
population under control must be a devout follower of the church. I guess that
Putin was actually a secret Russian Orthodox follower even whilst running the
KGB.
Read some of his many quotes about Christianity and his belief. He did, however.
detest the hierarchy of the Catholic church.
Siri Cruise
2013-10-13 14:46:18 UTC
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Post by ***@tor
Post by Siri Cruise
Post by ***@tor
"It is generally believed by historians that Hitler's post war and long term
goal was the eradication of Christianity in Germany."
His partnership with the Catholic Church proves your cite and those *historians*
both wrong. But thanks for playing.
So anyone who agrees to give a church more power in exchange for keeping the
population under control must be a devout follower of the church. I guess that
Putin was actually a secret Russian Orthodox follower even whilst running the
KGB.
Read some of his many quotes about Christianity and his belief. He did, however.
detest the hierarchy of the Catholic church.
So why 'His partnership with the Catholic Church'?
--
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2013-10-13 14:50:59 UTC
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Post by Siri Cruise
Post by ***@tor
Post by Siri Cruise
Post by ***@tor
"It is generally believed by historians that Hitler's post war and long term
goal was the eradication of Christianity in Germany."
His partnership with the Catholic Church proves your cite and those *historians*
both wrong. But thanks for playing.
So anyone who agrees to give a church more power in exchange for keeping the
population under control must be a devout follower of the church. I guess that
Putin was actually a secret Russian Orthodox follower even whilst running the
KGB.
Read some of his many quotes about Christianity and his belief. He did, however.
detest the hierarchy of the Catholic church.
So why 'His partnership with the Catholic Church'?
First of all, he was a member, up until his suicide. Suffice it to say, every
religion has their embarassments.
Siri Cruise
2013-10-13 14:49:52 UTC
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Post by ***@tor
Post by Siri Cruise
Post by ***@tor
Post by Siri Cruise
Post by ***@tor
Of course it does. Hitler wasn't trying to eliminate Christianity as
you
"It is generally believed by historians that Hitler's post war and long term
goal was the eradication of Christianity in Germany."
His partnership with the Catholic Church proves your cite and those
*historians*
both wrong. But thanks for playing.
So anyone who agrees to give a church more power in exchange for keeping the
population under control must be a devout follower of the church. I guess that
Putin was actually a secret Russian Orthodox follower even whilst running the
KGB.
Read some of his many quotes about Christianity and his belief. He did, however.
detest the hierarchy of the Catholic church.
So why 'His partnership with the Catholic Church'?
First of all, he was a member, up until his suicide. Suffice it to say, every
religion has their embarassments.
He was member of a church he detested?
--
Guajira Guantanamera: Hell hath no fury like a nation scorned.
:-<> Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. Deleted.
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2013-10-13 15:00:19 UTC
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Post by ***@tor
Post by Siri Cruise
Post by ***@tor
Post by Siri Cruise
Post by ***@tor
Of course it does. Hitler wasn't trying to eliminate Christianity as
you
"It is generally believed by historians that Hitler's post war and long term
goal was the eradication of Christianity in Germany."
His partnership with the Catholic Church proves your cite and those
*historians*
both wrong. But thanks for playing.
So anyone who agrees to give a church more power in exchange for keeping the
population under control must be a devout follower of the church. I guess that
Putin was actually a secret Russian Orthodox follower even whilst running the
KGB.
Read some of his many quotes about Christianity and his belief. He did, however.
detest the hierarchy of the Catholic church.
So why 'His partnership with the Catholic Church'?
First of all, he was a member, up until his suicide. Suffice it to say, every
religion has their embarassments.
He was member of a church he detested?
Look it up. He hated the hierarchy of the Catholic Church, but remained a member
until he committed suicide.
Moder@tor
2013-10-13 15:00:19 UTC
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Post by Siri Cruise
Post by ***@tor
Post by Siri Cruise
Post by ***@tor
Post by Siri Cruise
Post by ***@tor
Of course it does. Hitler wasn't trying to eliminate Christianity as
you
"It is generally believed by historians that Hitler's post war and long term
goal was the eradication of Christianity in Germany."
His partnership with the Catholic Church proves your cite and those
*historians*
both wrong. But thanks for playing.
So anyone who agrees to give a church more power in exchange for keeping the
population under control must be a devout follower of the church. I guess that
Putin was actually a secret Russian Orthodox follower even whilst running the
KGB.
Read some of his many quotes about Christianity and his belief. He did, however.
detest the hierarchy of the Catholic church.
So why 'His partnership with the Catholic Church'?
First of all, he was a member, up until his suicide. Suffice it to say, every
religion has their embarassments.
He was member of a church he detested?
Look it up. He hated the hierarchy of the Catholic Church, but remained a member
until he committed suicide.
Siri Cruise
2013-10-13 14:49:52 UTC
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Post by ***@tor
Post by Siri Cruise
Post by ***@tor
Post by Siri Cruise
Post by ***@tor
Of course it does. Hitler wasn't trying to eliminate Christianity as
you
"It is generally believed by historians that Hitler's post war and long term
goal was the eradication of Christianity in Germany."
His partnership with the Catholic Church proves your cite and those
*historians*
both wrong. But thanks for playing.
So anyone who agrees to give a church more power in exchange for keeping the
population under control must be a devout follower of the church. I guess that
Putin was actually a secret Russian Orthodox follower even whilst running the
KGB.
Read some of his many quotes about Christianity and his belief. He did, however.
detest the hierarchy of the Catholic church.
So why 'His partnership with the Catholic Church'?
First of all, he was a member, up until his suicide. Suffice it to say, every
religion has their embarassments.
He was member of a church he detested?
--
Guajira Guantanamera: Hell hath no fury like a nation scorned.
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2013-10-13 14:50:59 UTC
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Post by ***@tor
Post by Siri Cruise
Post by ***@tor
"It is generally believed by historians that Hitler's post war and long term
goal was the eradication of Christianity in Germany."
His partnership with the Catholic Church proves your cite and those *historians*
both wrong. But thanks for playing.
So anyone who agrees to give a church more power in exchange for keeping the
population under control must be a devout follower of the church. I guess that
Putin was actually a secret Russian Orthodox follower even whilst running the
KGB.
Read some of his many quotes about Christianity and his belief. He did, however.
detest the hierarchy of the Catholic church.
So why 'His partnership with the Catholic Church'?
First of all, he was a member, up until his suicide. Suffice it to say, every
religion has their embarassments.
Siri Cruise
2013-10-13 14:46:18 UTC
Permalink
Post by ***@tor
Post by Siri Cruise
Post by ***@tor
"It is generally believed by historians that Hitler's post war and long term
goal was the eradication of Christianity in Germany."
His partnership with the Catholic Church proves your cite and those *historians*
both wrong. But thanks for playing.
So anyone who agrees to give a church more power in exchange for keeping the
population under control must be a devout follower of the church. I guess that
Putin was actually a secret Russian Orthodox follower even whilst running the
KGB.
Read some of his many quotes about Christianity and his belief. He did, however.
detest the hierarchy of the Catholic church.
So why 'His partnership with the Catholic Church'?
--
Guajira Guantanamera: Hell hath no fury like a nation scorned.
:-<> Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. Deleted.
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2013-10-13 14:25:57 UTC
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Post by Siri Cruise
Post by ***@tor
"It is generally believed by historians that Hitler's post war and long term
goal was the eradication of Christianity in Germany."
His partnership with the Catholic Church proves your cite and those *historians*
both wrong. But thanks for playing.
So anyone who agrees to give a church more power in exchange for keeping the
population under control must be a devout follower of the church. I guess that
Putin was actually a secret Russian Orthodox follower even whilst running the
KGB.
Read some of his many quotes about Christianity and his belief. He did, however.
detest the hierarchy of the Catholic church.
Siri Cruise
2013-10-13 13:59:27 UTC
Permalink
Post by ***@tor
"It is generally believed by historians that Hitler's post war and long term
goal was the eradication of Christianity in Germany."
His partnership with the Catholic Church proves your cite and those *historians*
both wrong. But thanks for playing.
So anyone who agrees to give a church more power in exchange for keeping the
population under control must be a devout follower of the church. I guess that
Putin was actually a secret Russian Orthodox follower even whilst running the
KGB.
--
Guajira Guantanamera: Hell hath no fury like a nation scorned.
:-<> Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. Deleted.
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2013-10-13 13:13:44 UTC
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Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by ***@tor
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 05:33:19 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 05:08:14 -0700, GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 02:51:18 -0500, Johnny Johnson
Post by Johnny Johnson
NRA- and gun rights-hating VLILLLDM Sheila Bryant, posting as
"GOP_Decline_and_Fall"
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Del Amitri
Post by Siri Cruise
Post by Del Amitri
Hitler was a Christian, just like Michele Bachmann.
Godwin's law.
You can't invoke it
Sorry, too late now.
Incorrect, you abuse Godwin's Law like you abuse everything else.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law#Corollaries_and_usage
While falling afoul of Godwin's law tends to cause the individual
making the comparison to lose his argument or credibility, Godwin's
law itself can be abused as a distraction, diversion or even as
censorship, fallaciously miscasting an opponent's argument as
hyperbole when the comparisons made by the argument are actually
appropriate.
Well, Sheila; since Hitler was *not* a Christian,
That would have been news to Hitler.
No, but it's news to you.
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Johnny Johnson
and the reference was inserted as a back-handed ad hominem attack,
So you claim,but it was a simple statement of truth.
No, Hitler was a Christian fascist just like Bachmann
No, he wasn't.
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Johnny Johnson
Religious views of Adolf Hitler
Ergo; both your and your fellow anonymously-posting VLILLLDM "Chine Bleu
Fuzzy Dice" ("Siri Cruise") have just proven that you two lost the argument
*and* your "credibility."
Congratulations! <snicker> :)
No, actually you have proved you don't know that Hitler was a
Christian
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler%27s_religious_views
My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a
fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded
only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and
summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest
not as a sufferer but as a fighter.
In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the
passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and
seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and
adders. How terrific was his fight against the Jewish poison.
Today, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize
more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He
had to shed his blood upon the Cross.
As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I
have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice
In adulthood, Hitler became disdainful of Christianity, but in seeking
out and in trying to retain power in Germany, he was prepared to
restrain his radical instincts out of political considerations. It is
generally believed by historians that Hitler's post war and long term
goal was the eradication of Christianity in Germany.[1][2] Hitler
appears not to have believed in the Judeo-Christian
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler
In his semi-autobiographical Mein Kampf, Hitler makes religious
allusions, but declares himself neutral in sectarian matters and
supportive of the separation between church and state, while
criticising political Catholicism. He presents a nihilistic vision, in
which the universe is ordered around principles of struggle between
weak and strong, rather than on conventional Christian notions long
prominent in Germany. While campaigning for office in the early 1930s,
Hitler offered moderate public statements on Christianity, promising
not to interfere with the churches if given power, and calling
Christianity the foundation of German morality. In power, the Hitler
regime conducted a protracted Struggle with the Churches. Hitler moved
to eliminate political Catholicism, while agreeing a Reich concordat
with the Holy See which promised autonomy for the Catholic Church in
Germany. Hitler then routinely violated the treaty, moved to close all
Catholic organisations that weren't strictly religious, and permitted
a persecution of the Catholic Church.
Like your ilk, Hitler liked to "redefine" Chrisitanity to fit his own
twisted beliefs.
He called himself a Christian, but he wasn't. Not even close. Just
like you call yourself an American.
Or maybe just like you call yourself correct.
http://www.catholicarrogance.org/hitlersbishops.gif
Which doesn't refute a single thing I cited.
Once again, I'm correct. Thanks for the confirmation.
Of course it does. Hitler wasn't trying to eliminate Christianity as you cited:

"It is generally believed by historians that Hitler's post war and long term
goal was the eradication of Christianity in Germany."

His partnership with the Catholic Church proves your cite and those *historians*
both wrong. But thanks for playing.
JamesHutchinson
2013-10-13 13:24:16 UTC
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Post by ***@tor
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 05:33:19 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 05:08:14 -0700, GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 02:51:18 -0500, Johnny Johnson
Post by Johnny Johnson
Obama-loving and
NRA- and gun rights-hating VLILLLDM Sheila Bryant, posting as
"GOP_Decline_and_Fall"
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Del Amitri
Post by Siri Cruise
Post by Del Amitri
Hitler was a Christian, just like Michele Bachmann.
Godwin's law.
You can't invoke it
Sorry, too late now.
Incorrect, you abuse Godwin's Law like you abuse everything else.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law#Corollaries_and_usage
While falling afoul of Godwin's law tends to cause the individual
making the comparison to lose his argument or credibility, Godwin's
law itself can be abused as a distraction, diversion or even as
censorship, fallaciously miscasting an opponent's argument as
hyperbole when the comparisons made by the argument are actually
appropriate.
Well, Sheila; since Hitler was *not* a Christian,
That would have been news to Hitler.
No, but it's news to you.
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Johnny Johnson
and the reference was inserted as a back-handed ad hominem attack,
So you claim,but it was a simple statement of truth.
No, Hitler was a Christian fascist just like Bachmann
No, he wasn't.
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Johnny Johnson
Religious views of Adolf Hitler
Ergo; both your and your fellow anonymously-posting VLILLLDM "Chine Bleu
Fuzzy Dice" ("Siri Cruise") have just proven that you two lost the argument
*and* your "credibility."
Congratulations! <snicker> :)
No, actually you have proved you don't know that Hitler was a
Christian
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler%27s_religious_views
My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a
fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded
only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and
summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest
not as a sufferer but as a fighter.
In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the
passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and
seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and
adders. How terrific was his fight against the Jewish poison.
Today, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize
more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He
had to shed his blood upon the Cross.
As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I
have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice
In adulthood, Hitler became disdainful of Christianity, but in seeking
out and in trying to retain power in Germany, he was prepared to
restrain his radical instincts out of political considerations. It is
generally believed by historians that Hitler's post war and long term
goal was the eradication of Christianity in Germany.[1][2] Hitler
appears not to have believed in the Judeo-Christian
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler
In his semi-autobiographical Mein Kampf, Hitler makes religious
allusions, but declares himself neutral in sectarian matters and
supportive of the separation between church and state, while
criticising political Catholicism. He presents a nihilistic vision, in
which the universe is ordered around principles of struggle between
weak and strong, rather than on conventional Christian notions long
prominent in Germany. While campaigning for office in the early 1930s,
Hitler offered moderate public statements on Christianity, promising
not to interfere with the churches if given power, and calling
Christianity the foundation of German morality. In power, the Hitler
regime conducted a protracted Struggle with the Churches. Hitler moved
to eliminate political Catholicism, while agreeing a Reich concordat
with the Holy See which promised autonomy for the Catholic Church in
Germany. Hitler then routinely violated the treaty, moved to close all
Catholic organisations that weren't strictly religious, and permitted
a persecution of the Catholic Church.
Like your ilk, Hitler liked to "redefine" Chrisitanity to fit his own
twisted beliefs.
He called himself a Christian, but he wasn't. Not even close. Just
like you call yourself an American.
Or maybe just like you call yourself correct.
http://www.catholicarrogance.org/hitlersbishops.gif
Which doesn't refute a single thing I cited.

Once again, I'm correct. Thanks for the confirmation.

######

Pardon my German....

"Wir haben Möglichkeiten, damit Sie glauben, dass das, was ich sage, ist
wahr, und dass ich ein Christ bin, und die Liebe der Juden zu töten, ich
bin!
Jesus war ein Jude .. Richtig?" <----- Adolf Hitler! )

***@tor?
Moder@tor
2013-10-13 14:30:45 UTC
Permalink
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by ***@tor
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 05:33:19 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 05:08:14 -0700, GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 02:51:18 -0500, Johnny Johnson
Post by Johnny Johnson
NRA- and gun rights-hating VLILLLDM Sheila Bryant, posting as
"GOP_Decline_and_Fall"
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Del Amitri
Post by Siri Cruise
Post by Del Amitri
Hitler was a Christian, just like Michele Bachmann.
Godwin's law.
You can't invoke it
Sorry, too late now.
Incorrect, you abuse Godwin's Law like you abuse everything else.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law#Corollaries_and_usage
While falling afoul of Godwin's law tends to cause the individual
making the comparison to lose his argument or credibility, Godwin's
law itself can be abused as a distraction, diversion or even as
censorship, fallaciously miscasting an opponent's argument as
hyperbole when the comparisons made by the argument are actually
appropriate.
Well, Sheila; since Hitler was *not* a Christian,
That would have been news to Hitler.
No, but it's news to you.
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Johnny Johnson
and the reference was inserted as a back-handed ad hominem attack,
So you claim,but it was a simple statement of truth.
No, Hitler was a Christian fascist just like Bachmann
No, he wasn't.
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Johnny Johnson
Religious views of Adolf Hitler
Ergo; both your and your fellow anonymously-posting VLILLLDM "Chine Bleu
Fuzzy Dice" ("Siri Cruise") have just proven that you two lost the argument
*and* your "credibility."
Congratulations! <snicker> :)
No, actually you have proved you don't know that Hitler was a
Christian
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler%27s_religious_views
My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a
fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded
only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and
summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest
not as a sufferer but as a fighter.
In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the
passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and
seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and
adders. How terrific was his fight against the Jewish poison.
Today, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize
more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He
had to shed his blood upon the Cross.
As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I
have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice
In adulthood, Hitler became disdainful of Christianity, but in seeking
out and in trying to retain power in Germany, he was prepared to
restrain his radical instincts out of political considerations. It is
generally believed by historians that Hitler's post war and long term
goal was the eradication of Christianity in Germany.[1][2] Hitler
appears not to have believed in the Judeo-Christian
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler
In his semi-autobiographical Mein Kampf, Hitler makes religious
allusions, but declares himself neutral in sectarian matters and
supportive of the separation between church and state, while
criticising political Catholicism. He presents a nihilistic vision, in
which the universe is ordered around principles of struggle between
weak and strong, rather than on conventional Christian notions long
prominent in Germany. While campaigning for office in the early 1930s,
Hitler offered moderate public statements on Christianity, promising
not to interfere with the churches if given power, and calling
Christianity the foundation of German morality. In power, the Hitler
regime conducted a protracted Struggle with the Churches. Hitler moved
to eliminate political Catholicism, while agreeing a Reich concordat
with the Holy See which promised autonomy for the Catholic Church in
Germany. Hitler then routinely violated the treaty, moved to close all
Catholic organisations that weren't strictly religious, and permitted
a persecution of the Catholic Church.
Like your ilk, Hitler liked to "redefine" Chrisitanity to fit his own
twisted beliefs.
He called himself a Christian, but he wasn't. Not even close. Just
like you call yourself an American.
Or maybe just like you call yourself correct.
http://www.catholicarrogance.org/hitlersbishops.gif
Which doesn't refute a single thing I cited.
Once again, I'm correct. Thanks for the confirmation.
######
Pardon my German....
"Wir haben Möglichkeiten, damit Sie glauben, dass das, was ich sage, ist
wahr, und dass ich ein Christ bin, und die Liebe der Juden zu töten, ich
bin!
Jesus war ein Jude .. Richtig?" <----- Adolf Hitler! )
Hitler's Christianity is well documented in his speeches, both before and after
his rise to power. That doesn't mean he was a good Christian by our standards.
Like the Muslim extremists who can quote every verse of the Koran and use it as
justification for killing. BTW, do you have any idea what you quoted from
Hitler in German or did you just use Google translate to approximate? Just
curious.
JamesHutchinson
2013-10-13 14:51:08 UTC
Permalink
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by ***@tor
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 05:33:19 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 05:08:14 -0700, GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 02:51:18 -0500, Johnny Johnson
Post by Johnny Johnson
NRA- and gun rights-hating VLILLLDM Sheila Bryant, posting as
"GOP_Decline_and_Fall"
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Del Amitri
Post by Siri Cruise
Post by Del Amitri
Hitler was a Christian, just like Michele Bachmann.
Godwin's law.
You can't invoke it
Sorry, too late now.
Incorrect, you abuse Godwin's Law like you abuse everything else.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law#Corollaries_and_usage
While falling afoul of Godwin's law tends to cause the individual
making the comparison to lose his argument or credibility, Godwin's
law itself can be abused as a distraction, diversion or even as
censorship, fallaciously miscasting an opponent's argument as
hyperbole when the comparisons made by the argument are actually
appropriate.
Well, Sheila; since Hitler was *not* a Christian,
That would have been news to Hitler.
No, but it's news to you.
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Johnny Johnson
and the reference was inserted as a back-handed ad hominem attack,
So you claim,but it was a simple statement of truth.
No, Hitler was a Christian fascist just like Bachmann
No, he wasn't.
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Johnny Johnson
Religious views of Adolf Hitler
Ergo; both your and your fellow anonymously-posting VLILLLDM "Chine Bleu
Fuzzy Dice" ("Siri Cruise") have just proven that you two lost the argument
*and* your "credibility."
Congratulations! <snicker> :)
No, actually you have proved you don't know that Hitler was a
Christian
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler%27s_religious_views
My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a
fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded
only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and
summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest
not as a sufferer but as a fighter.
In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the
passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and
seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and
adders. How terrific was his fight against the Jewish poison.
Today, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize
more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He
had to shed his blood upon the Cross.
As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I
have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice
In adulthood, Hitler became disdainful of Christianity, but in seeking
out and in trying to retain power in Germany, he was prepared to
restrain his radical instincts out of political considerations. It is
generally believed by historians that Hitler's post war and long term
goal was the eradication of Christianity in Germany.[1][2] Hitler
appears not to have believed in the Judeo-Christian
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler
In his semi-autobiographical Mein Kampf, Hitler makes religious
allusions, but declares himself neutral in sectarian matters and
supportive of the separation between church and state, while
criticising political Catholicism. He presents a nihilistic vision, in
which the universe is ordered around principles of struggle between
weak and strong, rather than on conventional Christian notions long
prominent in Germany. While campaigning for office in the early 1930s,
Hitler offered moderate public statements on Christianity, promising
not to interfere with the churches if given power, and calling
Christianity the foundation of German morality. In power, the Hitler
regime conducted a protracted Struggle with the Churches. Hitler moved
to eliminate political Catholicism, while agreeing a Reich concordat
with the Holy See which promised autonomy for the Catholic Church in
Germany. Hitler then routinely violated the treaty, moved to close all
Catholic organisations that weren't strictly religious, and permitted
a persecution of the Catholic Church.
Like your ilk, Hitler liked to "redefine" Chrisitanity to fit his own
twisted beliefs.
He called himself a Christian, but he wasn't. Not even close. Just
like you call yourself an American.
Or maybe just like you call yourself correct.
http://www.catholicarrogance.org/hitlersbishops.gif
Which doesn't refute a single thing I cited.
Once again, I'm correct. Thanks for the confirmation.
######
Pardon my German....
"Wir haben Möglichkeiten, damit Sie glauben, dass das, was ich sage, ist
wahr, und dass ich ein Christ bin, und die Liebe der Juden zu töten, ich
bin!
Jesus war ein Jude .. Richtig?" <----- Adolf Hitler! )
Hitler's Christianity is well documented in his speeches, both before and
after
his rise to power. That doesn't mean he was a good Christian by our
standards.
Like the Muslim extremists who can quote every verse of the Koran and use it
as
justification for killing. BTW, do you have any idea what you quoted from
Hitler in German or did you just use Google translate to approximate? Just
curious.

####
You just made a mockery of Hitler's claim to Christianity, and proved him to
a big retard.
Thanks for proving my point!
Moder@tor
2013-10-13 15:04:13 UTC
Permalink
Post by ***@tor
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by ***@tor
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 05:33:19 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 05:08:14 -0700, GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 02:51:18 -0500, Johnny Johnson
Post by Johnny Johnson
NRA- and gun rights-hating VLILLLDM Sheila Bryant, posting as
"GOP_Decline_and_Fall"
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Del Amitri
Post by Siri Cruise
Post by Del Amitri
Hitler was a Christian, just like Michele Bachmann.
Godwin's law.
You can't invoke it
Sorry, too late now.
Incorrect, you abuse Godwin's Law like you abuse everything else.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law#Corollaries_and_usage
While falling afoul of Godwin's law tends to cause the individual
making the comparison to lose his argument or credibility, Godwin's
law itself can be abused as a distraction, diversion or even as
censorship, fallaciously miscasting an opponent's argument as
hyperbole when the comparisons made by the argument are actually
appropriate.
Well, Sheila; since Hitler was *not* a Christian,
That would have been news to Hitler.
No, but it's news to you.
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Johnny Johnson
and the reference was inserted as a back-handed ad hominem attack,
So you claim,but it was a simple statement of truth.
No, Hitler was a Christian fascist just like Bachmann
No, he wasn't.
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Johnny Johnson
Religious views of Adolf Hitler
Ergo; both your and your fellow anonymously-posting VLILLLDM "Chine Bleu
Fuzzy Dice" ("Siri Cruise") have just proven that you two lost the argument
*and* your "credibility."
Congratulations! <snicker> :)
No, actually you have proved you don't know that Hitler was a
Christian
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler%27s_religious_views
My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a
fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded
only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and
summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest
not as a sufferer but as a fighter.
In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the
passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and
seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and
adders. How terrific was his fight against the Jewish poison.
Today, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize
more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He
had to shed his blood upon the Cross.
As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I
have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice
In adulthood, Hitler became disdainful of Christianity, but in seeking
out and in trying to retain power in Germany, he was prepared to
restrain his radical instincts out of political considerations. It is
generally believed by historians that Hitler's post war and long term
goal was the eradication of Christianity in Germany.[1][2] Hitler
appears not to have believed in the Judeo-Christian
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler
In his semi-autobiographical Mein Kampf, Hitler makes religious
allusions, but declares himself neutral in sectarian matters and
supportive of the separation between church and state, while
criticising political Catholicism. He presents a nihilistic vision, in
which the universe is ordered around principles of struggle between
weak and strong, rather than on conventional Christian notions long
prominent in Germany. While campaigning for office in the early 1930s,
Hitler offered moderate public statements on Christianity, promising
not to interfere with the churches if given power, and calling
Christianity the foundation of German morality. In power, the Hitler
regime conducted a protracted Struggle with the Churches. Hitler moved
to eliminate political Catholicism, while agreeing a Reich concordat
with the Holy See which promised autonomy for the Catholic Church in
Germany. Hitler then routinely violated the treaty, moved to close all
Catholic organisations that weren't strictly religious, and permitted
a persecution of the Catholic Church.
Like your ilk, Hitler liked to "redefine" Chrisitanity to fit his own
twisted beliefs.
He called himself a Christian, but he wasn't. Not even close. Just
like you call yourself an American.
Or maybe just like you call yourself correct.
http://www.catholicarrogance.org/hitlersbishops.gif
Which doesn't refute a single thing I cited.
Once again, I'm correct. Thanks for the confirmation.
######
Pardon my German....
"Wir haben Möglichkeiten, damit Sie glauben, dass das, was ich sage, ist
wahr, und dass ich ein Christ bin, und die Liebe der Juden zu töten, ich
bin!
Jesus war ein Jude .. Richtig?" <----- Adolf Hitler! )
Hitler's Christianity is well documented in his speeches, both before and after
his rise to power. That doesn't mean he was a good Christian by our standards.
Like the Muslim extremists who can quote every verse of the Koran and use it as
justification for killing. BTW, do you have any idea what you quoted from
Hitler in German or did you just use Google translate to approximate? Just
curious.
####
You just made a mockery of Hitler's claim to Christianity, and proved him to
a big retard.
Thanks for proving my point!
And Jesus was a Socialist before the term became popular. Does that mean that
all of the Rightards who hide behind their religion are closet Socialists? The
debate is whether Hitler was a Christian or not. He was registered in the
Catholic Church until he committed suicide, procalimed his Chirstianity in many
of his speeches, and said that Christianity was the foundation of his party's
beliefs. Seems he was a Chrsitian, just an extremely misguided one.
Moder@tor
2013-10-13 15:04:13 UTC
Permalink
Post by ***@tor
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by ***@tor
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 05:33:19 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 05:08:14 -0700, GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 02:51:18 -0500, Johnny Johnson
Post by Johnny Johnson
NRA- and gun rights-hating VLILLLDM Sheila Bryant, posting as
"GOP_Decline_and_Fall"
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Del Amitri
Post by Siri Cruise
Post by Del Amitri
Hitler was a Christian, just like Michele Bachmann.
Godwin's law.
You can't invoke it
Sorry, too late now.
Incorrect, you abuse Godwin's Law like you abuse everything else.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law#Corollaries_and_usage
While falling afoul of Godwin's law tends to cause the individual
making the comparison to lose his argument or credibility, Godwin's
law itself can be abused as a distraction, diversion or even as
censorship, fallaciously miscasting an opponent's argument as
hyperbole when the comparisons made by the argument are actually
appropriate.
Well, Sheila; since Hitler was *not* a Christian,
That would have been news to Hitler.
No, but it's news to you.
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Johnny Johnson
and the reference was inserted as a back-handed ad hominem attack,
So you claim,but it was a simple statement of truth.
No, Hitler was a Christian fascist just like Bachmann
No, he wasn't.
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Johnny Johnson
Religious views of Adolf Hitler
Ergo; both your and your fellow anonymously-posting VLILLLDM "Chine Bleu
Fuzzy Dice" ("Siri Cruise") have just proven that you two lost the argument
*and* your "credibility."
Congratulations! <snicker> :)
No, actually you have proved you don't know that Hitler was a
Christian
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler%27s_religious_views
My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a
fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded
only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and
summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest
not as a sufferer but as a fighter.
In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the
passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and
seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and
adders. How terrific was his fight against the Jewish poison.
Today, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize
more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He
had to shed his blood upon the Cross.
As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I
have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice
In adulthood, Hitler became disdainful of Christianity, but in seeking
out and in trying to retain power in Germany, he was prepared to
restrain his radical instincts out of political considerations. It is
generally believed by historians that Hitler's post war and long term
goal was the eradication of Christianity in Germany.[1][2] Hitler
appears not to have believed in the Judeo-Christian
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler
In his semi-autobiographical Mein Kampf, Hitler makes religious
allusions, but declares himself neutral in sectarian matters and
supportive of the separation between church and state, while
criticising political Catholicism. He presents a nihilistic vision, in
which the universe is ordered around principles of struggle between
weak and strong, rather than on conventional Christian notions long
prominent in Germany. While campaigning for office in the early 1930s,
Hitler offered moderate public statements on Christianity, promising
not to interfere with the churches if given power, and calling
Christianity the foundation of German morality. In power, the Hitler
regime conducted a protracted Struggle with the Churches. Hitler moved
to eliminate political Catholicism, while agreeing a Reich concordat
with the Holy See which promised autonomy for the Catholic Church in
Germany. Hitler then routinely violated the treaty, moved to close all
Catholic organisations that weren't strictly religious, and permitted
a persecution of the Catholic Church.
Like your ilk, Hitler liked to "redefine" Chrisitanity to fit his own
twisted beliefs.
He called himself a Christian, but he wasn't. Not even close. Just
like you call yourself an American.
Or maybe just like you call yourself correct.
http://www.catholicarrogance.org/hitlersbishops.gif
Which doesn't refute a single thing I cited.
Once again, I'm correct. Thanks for the confirmation.
######
Pardon my German....
"Wir haben Möglichkeiten, damit Sie glauben, dass das, was ich sage, ist
wahr, und dass ich ein Christ bin, und die Liebe der Juden zu töten, ich
bin!
Jesus war ein Jude .. Richtig?" <----- Adolf Hitler! )
Hitler's Christianity is well documented in his speeches, both before and after
his rise to power. That doesn't mean he was a good Christian by our standards.
Like the Muslim extremists who can quote every verse of the Koran and use it as
justification for killing. BTW, do you have any idea what you quoted from
Hitler in German or did you just use Google translate to approximate? Just
curious.
####
You just made a mockery of Hitler's claim to Christianity, and proved him to
a big retard.
Thanks for proving my point!
And Jesus was a Socialist before the term became popular. Does that mean that
all of the Rightards who hide behind their religion are closet Socialists? The
debate is whether Hitler was a Christian or not. He was registered in the
Catholic Church until he committed suicide, procalimed his Chirstianity in many
of his speeches, and said that Christianity was the foundation of his party's
beliefs. Seems he was a Chrsitian, just an extremely misguided one.
JamesHutchinson
2013-10-13 14:51:08 UTC
Permalink
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by ***@tor
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 05:33:19 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 05:08:14 -0700, GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 02:51:18 -0500, Johnny Johnson
Post by Johnny Johnson
NRA- and gun rights-hating VLILLLDM Sheila Bryant, posting as
"GOP_Decline_and_Fall"
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Del Amitri
Post by Siri Cruise
Post by Del Amitri
Hitler was a Christian, just like Michele Bachmann.
Godwin's law.
You can't invoke it
Sorry, too late now.
Incorrect, you abuse Godwin's Law like you abuse everything else.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law#Corollaries_and_usage
While falling afoul of Godwin's law tends to cause the individual
making the comparison to lose his argument or credibility, Godwin's
law itself can be abused as a distraction, diversion or even as
censorship, fallaciously miscasting an opponent's argument as
hyperbole when the comparisons made by the argument are actually
appropriate.
Well, Sheila; since Hitler was *not* a Christian,
That would have been news to Hitler.
No, but it's news to you.
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Johnny Johnson
and the reference was inserted as a back-handed ad hominem attack,
So you claim,but it was a simple statement of truth.
No, Hitler was a Christian fascist just like Bachmann
No, he wasn't.
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Johnny Johnson
Religious views of Adolf Hitler
Ergo; both your and your fellow anonymously-posting VLILLLDM "Chine Bleu
Fuzzy Dice" ("Siri Cruise") have just proven that you two lost the argument
*and* your "credibility."
Congratulations! <snicker> :)
No, actually you have proved you don't know that Hitler was a
Christian
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler%27s_religious_views
My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a
fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded
only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and
summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest
not as a sufferer but as a fighter.
In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the
passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and
seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and
adders. How terrific was his fight against the Jewish poison.
Today, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize
more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He
had to shed his blood upon the Cross.
As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I
have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice
In adulthood, Hitler became disdainful of Christianity, but in seeking
out and in trying to retain power in Germany, he was prepared to
restrain his radical instincts out of political considerations. It is
generally believed by historians that Hitler's post war and long term
goal was the eradication of Christianity in Germany.[1][2] Hitler
appears not to have believed in the Judeo-Christian
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler
In his semi-autobiographical Mein Kampf, Hitler makes religious
allusions, but declares himself neutral in sectarian matters and
supportive of the separation between church and state, while
criticising political Catholicism. He presents a nihilistic vision, in
which the universe is ordered around principles of struggle between
weak and strong, rather than on conventional Christian notions long
prominent in Germany. While campaigning for office in the early 1930s,
Hitler offered moderate public statements on Christianity, promising
not to interfere with the churches if given power, and calling
Christianity the foundation of German morality. In power, the Hitler
regime conducted a protracted Struggle with the Churches. Hitler moved
to eliminate political Catholicism, while agreeing a Reich concordat
with the Holy See which promised autonomy for the Catholic Church in
Germany. Hitler then routinely violated the treaty, moved to close all
Catholic organisations that weren't strictly religious, and permitted
a persecution of the Catholic Church.
Like your ilk, Hitler liked to "redefine" Chrisitanity to fit his own
twisted beliefs.
He called himself a Christian, but he wasn't. Not even close. Just
like you call yourself an American.
Or maybe just like you call yourself correct.
http://www.catholicarrogance.org/hitlersbishops.gif
Which doesn't refute a single thing I cited.
Once again, I'm correct. Thanks for the confirmation.
######
Pardon my German....
"Wir haben Möglichkeiten, damit Sie glauben, dass das, was ich sage, ist
wahr, und dass ich ein Christ bin, und die Liebe der Juden zu töten, ich
bin!
Jesus war ein Jude .. Richtig?" <----- Adolf Hitler! )
Hitler's Christianity is well documented in his speeches, both before and
after
his rise to power. That doesn't mean he was a good Christian by our
standards.
Like the Muslim extremists who can quote every verse of the Koran and use it
as
justification for killing. BTW, do you have any idea what you quoted from
Hitler in German or did you just use Google translate to approximate? Just
curious.

####
You just made a mockery of Hitler's claim to Christianity, and proved him to
a big retard.
Thanks for proving my point!
Moder@tor
2013-10-13 14:30:45 UTC
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Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by ***@tor
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 05:33:19 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 05:08:14 -0700, GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 02:51:18 -0500, Johnny Johnson
Post by Johnny Johnson
NRA- and gun rights-hating VLILLLDM Sheila Bryant, posting as
"GOP_Decline_and_Fall"
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Del Amitri
Post by Siri Cruise
Post by Del Amitri
Hitler was a Christian, just like Michele Bachmann.
Godwin's law.
You can't invoke it
Sorry, too late now.
Incorrect, you abuse Godwin's Law like you abuse everything else.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law#Corollaries_and_usage
While falling afoul of Godwin's law tends to cause the individual
making the comparison to lose his argument or credibility, Godwin's
law itself can be abused as a distraction, diversion or even as
censorship, fallaciously miscasting an opponent's argument as
hyperbole when the comparisons made by the argument are actually
appropriate.
Well, Sheila; since Hitler was *not* a Christian,
That would have been news to Hitler.
No, but it's news to you.
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Johnny Johnson
and the reference was inserted as a back-handed ad hominem attack,
So you claim,but it was a simple statement of truth.
No, Hitler was a Christian fascist just like Bachmann
No, he wasn't.
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Johnny Johnson
Religious views of Adolf Hitler
Ergo; both your and your fellow anonymously-posting VLILLLDM "Chine Bleu
Fuzzy Dice" ("Siri Cruise") have just proven that you two lost the argument
*and* your "credibility."
Congratulations! <snicker> :)
No, actually you have proved you don't know that Hitler was a
Christian
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler%27s_religious_views
My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a
fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded
only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and
summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest
not as a sufferer but as a fighter.
In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the
passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and
seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and
adders. How terrific was his fight against the Jewish poison.
Today, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize
more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He
had to shed his blood upon the Cross.
As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I
have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice
In adulthood, Hitler became disdainful of Christianity, but in seeking
out and in trying to retain power in Germany, he was prepared to
restrain his radical instincts out of political considerations. It is
generally believed by historians that Hitler's post war and long term
goal was the eradication of Christianity in Germany.[1][2] Hitler
appears not to have believed in the Judeo-Christian
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler
In his semi-autobiographical Mein Kampf, Hitler makes religious
allusions, but declares himself neutral in sectarian matters and
supportive of the separation between church and state, while
criticising political Catholicism. He presents a nihilistic vision, in
which the universe is ordered around principles of struggle between
weak and strong, rather than on conventional Christian notions long
prominent in Germany. While campaigning for office in the early 1930s,
Hitler offered moderate public statements on Christianity, promising
not to interfere with the churches if given power, and calling
Christianity the foundation of German morality. In power, the Hitler
regime conducted a protracted Struggle with the Churches. Hitler moved
to eliminate political Catholicism, while agreeing a Reich concordat
with the Holy See which promised autonomy for the Catholic Church in
Germany. Hitler then routinely violated the treaty, moved to close all
Catholic organisations that weren't strictly religious, and permitted
a persecution of the Catholic Church.
Like your ilk, Hitler liked to "redefine" Chrisitanity to fit his own
twisted beliefs.
He called himself a Christian, but he wasn't. Not even close. Just
like you call yourself an American.
Or maybe just like you call yourself correct.
http://www.catholicarrogance.org/hitlersbishops.gif
Which doesn't refute a single thing I cited.
Once again, I'm correct. Thanks for the confirmation.
######
Pardon my German....
"Wir haben Möglichkeiten, damit Sie glauben, dass das, was ich sage, ist
wahr, und dass ich ein Christ bin, und die Liebe der Juden zu töten, ich
bin!
Jesus war ein Jude .. Richtig?" <----- Adolf Hitler! )
Hitler's Christianity is well documented in his speeches, both before and after
his rise to power. That doesn't mean he was a good Christian by our standards.
Like the Muslim extremists who can quote every verse of the Koran and use it as
justification for killing. BTW, do you have any idea what you quoted from
Hitler in German or did you just use Google translate to approximate? Just
curious.
JamesHutchinson
2013-10-13 13:24:16 UTC
Permalink
Post by ***@tor
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 05:33:19 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 05:08:14 -0700, GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 02:51:18 -0500, Johnny Johnson
Post by Johnny Johnson
Obama-loving and
NRA- and gun rights-hating VLILLLDM Sheila Bryant, posting as
"GOP_Decline_and_Fall"
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Del Amitri
Post by Siri Cruise
Post by Del Amitri
Hitler was a Christian, just like Michele Bachmann.
Godwin's law.
You can't invoke it
Sorry, too late now.
Incorrect, you abuse Godwin's Law like you abuse everything else.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law#Corollaries_and_usage
While falling afoul of Godwin's law tends to cause the individual
making the comparison to lose his argument or credibility, Godwin's
law itself can be abused as a distraction, diversion or even as
censorship, fallaciously miscasting an opponent's argument as
hyperbole when the comparisons made by the argument are actually
appropriate.
Well, Sheila; since Hitler was *not* a Christian,
That would have been news to Hitler.
No, but it's news to you.
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Johnny Johnson
and the reference was inserted as a back-handed ad hominem attack,
So you claim,but it was a simple statement of truth.
No, Hitler was a Christian fascist just like Bachmann
No, he wasn't.
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Johnny Johnson
Religious views of Adolf Hitler
Ergo; both your and your fellow anonymously-posting VLILLLDM "Chine Bleu
Fuzzy Dice" ("Siri Cruise") have just proven that you two lost the argument
*and* your "credibility."
Congratulations! <snicker> :)
No, actually you have proved you don't know that Hitler was a
Christian
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler%27s_religious_views
My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a
fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded
only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and
summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest
not as a sufferer but as a fighter.
In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the
passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and
seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and
adders. How terrific was his fight against the Jewish poison.
Today, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize
more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He
had to shed his blood upon the Cross.
As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I
have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice
In adulthood, Hitler became disdainful of Christianity, but in seeking
out and in trying to retain power in Germany, he was prepared to
restrain his radical instincts out of political considerations. It is
generally believed by historians that Hitler's post war and long term
goal was the eradication of Christianity in Germany.[1][2] Hitler
appears not to have believed in the Judeo-Christian
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler
In his semi-autobiographical Mein Kampf, Hitler makes religious
allusions, but declares himself neutral in sectarian matters and
supportive of the separation between church and state, while
criticising political Catholicism. He presents a nihilistic vision, in
which the universe is ordered around principles of struggle between
weak and strong, rather than on conventional Christian notions long
prominent in Germany. While campaigning for office in the early 1930s,
Hitler offered moderate public statements on Christianity, promising
not to interfere with the churches if given power, and calling
Christianity the foundation of German morality. In power, the Hitler
regime conducted a protracted Struggle with the Churches. Hitler moved
to eliminate political Catholicism, while agreeing a Reich concordat
with the Holy See which promised autonomy for the Catholic Church in
Germany. Hitler then routinely violated the treaty, moved to close all
Catholic organisations that weren't strictly religious, and permitted
a persecution of the Catholic Church.
Like your ilk, Hitler liked to "redefine" Chrisitanity to fit his own
twisted beliefs.
He called himself a Christian, but he wasn't. Not even close. Just
like you call yourself an American.
Or maybe just like you call yourself correct.
http://www.catholicarrogance.org/hitlersbishops.gif
Which doesn't refute a single thing I cited.

Once again, I'm correct. Thanks for the confirmation.

######

Pardon my German....

"Wir haben Möglichkeiten, damit Sie glauben, dass das, was ich sage, ist
wahr, und dass ich ein Christ bin, und die Liebe der Juden zu töten, ich
bin!
Jesus war ein Jude .. Richtig?" <----- Adolf Hitler! )

***@tor?
Klaus Schadenfreude
2013-10-13 12:58:54 UTC
Permalink
Post by ***@tor
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 05:33:19 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 05:08:14 -0700, GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 02:51:18 -0500, Johnny Johnson
Post by Johnny Johnson
NRA- and gun rights-hating VLILLLDM Sheila Bryant, posting as
"GOP_Decline_and_Fall"
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Del Amitri
Post by Siri Cruise
Post by Del Amitri
Hitler was a Christian, just like Michele Bachmann.
Godwin's law.
You can't invoke it
Sorry, too late now.
Incorrect, you abuse Godwin's Law like you abuse everything else.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law#Corollaries_and_usage
While falling afoul of Godwin's law tends to cause the individual
making the comparison to lose his argument or credibility, Godwin's
law itself can be abused as a distraction, diversion or even as
censorship, fallaciously miscasting an opponent's argument as
hyperbole when the comparisons made by the argument are actually
appropriate.
Well, Sheila; since Hitler was *not* a Christian,
That would have been news to Hitler.
No, but it's news to you.
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Johnny Johnson
and the reference was inserted as a back-handed ad hominem attack,
So you claim,but it was a simple statement of truth.
No, Hitler was a Christian fascist just like Bachmann
No, he wasn't.
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Johnny Johnson
Religious views of Adolf Hitler
Ergo; both your and your fellow anonymously-posting VLILLLDM "Chine Bleu
Fuzzy Dice" ("Siri Cruise") have just proven that you two lost the argument
*and* your "credibility."
Congratulations! <snicker> :)
No, actually you have proved you don't know that Hitler was a
Christian
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler%27s_religious_views
My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a
fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded
only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and
summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest
not as a sufferer but as a fighter.
In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the
passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and
seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and
adders. How terrific was his fight against the Jewish poison.
Today, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize
more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He
had to shed his blood upon the Cross.
As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I
have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice
In adulthood, Hitler became disdainful of Christianity, but in seeking
out and in trying to retain power in Germany, he was prepared to
restrain his radical instincts out of political considerations. It is
generally believed by historians that Hitler's post war and long term
goal was the eradication of Christianity in Germany.[1][2] Hitler
appears not to have believed in the Judeo-Christian
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler
In his semi-autobiographical Mein Kampf, Hitler makes religious
allusions, but declares himself neutral in sectarian matters and
supportive of the separation between church and state, while
criticising political Catholicism. He presents a nihilistic vision, in
which the universe is ordered around principles of struggle between
weak and strong, rather than on conventional Christian notions long
prominent in Germany. While campaigning for office in the early 1930s,
Hitler offered moderate public statements on Christianity, promising
not to interfere with the churches if given power, and calling
Christianity the foundation of German morality. In power, the Hitler
regime conducted a protracted Struggle with the Churches. Hitler moved
to eliminate political Catholicism, while agreeing a Reich concordat
with the Holy See which promised autonomy for the Catholic Church in
Germany. Hitler then routinely violated the treaty, moved to close all
Catholic organisations that weren't strictly religious, and permitted
a persecution of the Catholic Church.
Like your ilk, Hitler liked to "redefine" Chrisitanity to fit his own
twisted beliefs.
He called himself a Christian, but he wasn't. Not even close. Just
like you call yourself an American.
Or maybe just like you call yourself correct.
http://www.catholicarrogance.org/hitlersbishops.gif
Which doesn't refute a single thing I cited.

Once again, I'm correct. Thanks for the confirmation.
Moder@tor
2013-10-13 12:56:11 UTC
Permalink
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 05:33:19 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 05:08:14 -0700, GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 02:51:18 -0500, Johnny Johnson
Post by Johnny Johnson
NRA- and gun rights-hating VLILLLDM Sheila Bryant, posting as
"GOP_Decline_and_Fall"
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Del Amitri
Post by Siri Cruise
Post by Del Amitri
Hitler was a Christian, just like Michele Bachmann.
Godwin's law.
You can't invoke it
Sorry, too late now.
Incorrect, you abuse Godwin's Law like you abuse everything else.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law#Corollaries_and_usage
While falling afoul of Godwin's law tends to cause the individual
making the comparison to lose his argument or credibility, Godwin's
law itself can be abused as a distraction, diversion or even as
censorship, fallaciously miscasting an opponent's argument as
hyperbole when the comparisons made by the argument are actually
appropriate.
Well, Sheila; since Hitler was *not* a Christian,
That would have been news to Hitler.
No, but it's news to you.
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Johnny Johnson
and the reference was inserted as a back-handed ad hominem attack,
So you claim,but it was a simple statement of truth.
No, Hitler was a Christian fascist just like Bachmann
No, he wasn't.
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Johnny Johnson
Religious views of Adolf Hitler
Ergo; both your and your fellow anonymously-posting VLILLLDM "Chine Bleu
Fuzzy Dice" ("Siri Cruise") have just proven that you two lost the argument
*and* your "credibility."
Congratulations! <snicker> :)
No, actually you have proved you don't know that Hitler was a
Christian
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler%27s_religious_views
My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a
fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded
only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and
summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest
not as a sufferer but as a fighter.
In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the
passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and
seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and
adders. How terrific was his fight against the Jewish poison.
Today, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize
more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He
had to shed his blood upon the Cross.
As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I
have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice
In adulthood, Hitler became disdainful of Christianity, but in seeking
out and in trying to retain power in Germany, he was prepared to
restrain his radical instincts out of political considerations. It is
generally believed by historians that Hitler's post war and long term
goal was the eradication of Christianity in Germany.[1][2] Hitler
appears not to have believed in the Judeo-Christian
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler
In his semi-autobiographical Mein Kampf, Hitler makes religious
allusions, but declares himself neutral in sectarian matters and
supportive of the separation between church and state, while
criticising political Catholicism. He presents a nihilistic vision, in
which the universe is ordered around principles of struggle between
weak and strong, rather than on conventional Christian notions long
prominent in Germany. While campaigning for office in the early 1930s,
Hitler offered moderate public statements on Christianity, promising
not to interfere with the churches if given power, and calling
Christianity the foundation of German morality. In power, the Hitler
regime conducted a protracted Struggle with the Churches. Hitler moved
to eliminate political Catholicism, while agreeing a Reich concordat
with the Holy See which promised autonomy for the Catholic Church in
Germany. Hitler then routinely violated the treaty, moved to close all
Catholic organisations that weren't strictly religious, and permitted
a persecution of the Catholic Church.
Like your ilk, Hitler liked to "redefine" Chrisitanity to fit his own
twisted beliefs.
He called himself a Christian, but he wasn't. Not even close. Just
like you call yourself an American.
Or maybe just like you call yourself correct.
http://www.catholicarrogance.org/hitlersbishops.gif
Klaus Schadenfreude
2013-10-13 12:33:19 UTC
Permalink
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 05:08:14 -0700, GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 02:51:18 -0500, Johnny Johnson
Post by Johnny Johnson
NRA- and gun rights-hating VLILLLDM Sheila Bryant, posting as
"GOP_Decline_and_Fall"
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Del Amitri
Post by Siri Cruise
Post by Del Amitri
Hitler was a Christian, just like Michele Bachmann.
Godwin's law.
You can't invoke it
Sorry, too late now.
Incorrect, you abuse Godwin's Law like you abuse everything else.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law#Corollaries_and_usage
While falling afoul of Godwin's law tends to cause the individual
making the comparison to lose his argument or credibility, Godwin's
law itself can be abused as a distraction, diversion or even as
censorship, fallaciously miscasting an opponent's argument as
hyperbole when the comparisons made by the argument are actually
appropriate.
Well, Sheila; since Hitler was *not* a Christian,
That would have been news to Hitler.
No, but it's news to you.
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Johnny Johnson
and the reference was inserted as a back-handed ad hominem attack,
So you claim,but it was a simple statement of truth.
No, Hitler was a Christian fascist just like Bachmann
No, he wasn't.
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Johnny Johnson
Religious views of Adolf Hitler
Ergo; both your and your fellow anonymously-posting VLILLLDM "Chine Bleu
Fuzzy Dice" ("Siri Cruise") have just proven that you two lost the argument
*and* your "credibility."
Congratulations! <snicker> :)
No, actually you have proved you don't know that Hitler was a
Christian
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler%27s_religious_views
My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a
fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded
only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and
summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest
not as a sufferer but as a fighter.
In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the
passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and
seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and
adders. How terrific was his fight against the Jewish poison.
Today, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize
more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He
had to shed his blood upon the Cross.
As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I
have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice
In adulthood, Hitler became disdainful of Christianity, but in seeking
out and in trying to retain power in Germany, he was prepared to
restrain his radical instincts out of political considerations. It is
generally believed by historians that Hitler's post war and long term
goal was the eradication of Christianity in Germany.[1][2] Hitler
appears not to have believed in the Judeo-Christian
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler

In his semi-autobiographical Mein Kampf, Hitler makes religious
allusions, but declares himself neutral in sectarian matters and
supportive of the separation between church and state, while
criticising political Catholicism. He presents a nihilistic vision, in
which the universe is ordered around principles of struggle between
weak and strong, rather than on conventional Christian notions long
prominent in Germany. While campaigning for office in the early 1930s,
Hitler offered moderate public statements on Christianity, promising
not to interfere with the churches if given power, and calling
Christianity the foundation of German morality. In power, the Hitler
regime conducted a protracted Struggle with the Churches. Hitler moved
to eliminate political Catholicism, while agreeing a Reich concordat
with the Holy See which promised autonomy for the Catholic Church in
Germany. Hitler then routinely violated the treaty, moved to close all
Catholic organisations that weren't strictly religious, and permitted
a persecution of the Catholic Church.

Like your ilk, Hitler liked to "redefine" Chrisitanity to fit his own
twisted beliefs.

He called himself a Christian, but he wasn't. Not even close. Just
like you call yourself an American.
Siri Cruise
2013-10-13 13:08:37 UTC
Permalink
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler%27s_religious_views
Yes, because Hitler was always so truthful when speaking in public.
--
Guajira Guantanamera: Hell hath no fury like a nation scorned.
:-<> Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. Deleted.
CIA Constitution patriot terrorism freedom Snowden
Paid Maternity Leave NSA fodder Dirty Dozen 2 Bomb
Klaus Schadenfreude
2013-10-13 13:11:01 UTC
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Post by Siri Cruise
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler%27s_religious_views
Yes, because Hitler was always so truthful when speaking in public.
And worshipped a Jew. Uh-huh.
Klaus Schadenfreude
2013-10-13 13:11:01 UTC
Permalink
Post by Siri Cruise
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler%27s_religious_views
Yes, because Hitler was always so truthful when speaking in public.
And worshipped a Jew. Uh-huh.
Siri Cruise
2013-10-13 13:08:37 UTC
Permalink
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler%27s_religious_views
Yes, because Hitler was always so truthful when speaking in public.
--
Guajira Guantanamera: Hell hath no fury like a nation scorned.
:-<> Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. Deleted.
CIA Constitution patriot terrorism freedom Snowden
Paid Maternity Leave NSA fodder Dirty Dozen 2 Bomb
George Plimpton
2013-10-13 14:28:40 UTC
Permalink
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 02:51:18 -0500, Johnny Johnson
Post by Johnny Johnson
NRA- and gun rights-hating VLILLLDM Sheila Bryant, posting as
"GOP_Decline_and_Fall"
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Del Amitri
Post by Siri Cruise
Post by Del Amitri
Hitler was a Christian, just like Michele Bachmann.
Godwin's law.
You can't invoke it
Sorry, too late now.
Incorrect, you abuse Godwin's Law like you abuse everything else.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law#Corollaries_and_usage
While falling afoul of Godwin's law tends to cause the individual
making the comparison to lose his argument or credibility, Godwin's
law itself can be abused as a distraction, diversion or even as
censorship, fallaciously miscasting an opponent's argument as
hyperbole when the comparisons made by the argument are actually
appropriate.
Well, Sheila; since Hitler was *not* a Christian,
That would have been news to Hitler.
Everything factual is news to you, Gooper:

Adolf Hitler was raised by an anticlerical, sceptic father and a
devout Catholic mother. Baptized and confirmed as a child in
Austria, he ceased to participate in the sacraments after
childhood. In adulthood, Hitler became disdainful of
Christianity, but in seeking out and in trying to retain power in
Germany, he was prepared to restrain his radical instincts out of
political considerations. It is generally believed by historians
that Hitler's post war and long term goal was the eradication of
Christianity in Germany. Hitler appears not to have believed in
the Judeo-Christian notion of God, though various scholars
consider his final religious position may have been a form of
deism. Others consider him "atheist". The question is debated.
During his early career, and for a variety of reasons, he made
various comments against non-Nazi atheistic (i.e. "Bolshevik")
movements, and in favour of so-called positive Christianity (a
movement which purged Christianity of its Jewish elements and
instilled it with Nazi philosophy). In private, confidantes such
as Martin Bormann, Joseph Goebbels and Albert Speer noted that he
was hostile to Christianity (though Speer also wrote that he
never formally left the Church).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler


You and facts are like oil and water, Gooper.
George Plimpton
2013-10-13 14:28:40 UTC
Permalink
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 02:51:18 -0500, Johnny Johnson
Post by Johnny Johnson
NRA- and gun rights-hating VLILLLDM Sheila Bryant, posting as
"GOP_Decline_and_Fall"
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Del Amitri
Post by Siri Cruise
Post by Del Amitri
Hitler was a Christian, just like Michele Bachmann.
Godwin's law.
You can't invoke it
Sorry, too late now.
Incorrect, you abuse Godwin's Law like you abuse everything else.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law#Corollaries_and_usage
While falling afoul of Godwin's law tends to cause the individual
making the comparison to lose his argument or credibility, Godwin's
law itself can be abused as a distraction, diversion or even as
censorship, fallaciously miscasting an opponent's argument as
hyperbole when the comparisons made by the argument are actually
appropriate.
Well, Sheila; since Hitler was *not* a Christian,
That would have been news to Hitler.
Everything factual is news to you, Gooper:

Adolf Hitler was raised by an anticlerical, sceptic father and a
devout Catholic mother. Baptized and confirmed as a child in
Austria, he ceased to participate in the sacraments after
childhood. In adulthood, Hitler became disdainful of
Christianity, but in seeking out and in trying to retain power in
Germany, he was prepared to restrain his radical instincts out of
political considerations. It is generally believed by historians
that Hitler's post war and long term goal was the eradication of
Christianity in Germany. Hitler appears not to have believed in
the Judeo-Christian notion of God, though various scholars
consider his final religious position may have been a form of
deism. Others consider him "atheist". The question is debated.
During his early career, and for a variety of reasons, he made
various comments against non-Nazi atheistic (i.e. "Bolshevik")
movements, and in favour of so-called positive Christianity (a
movement which purged Christianity of its Jewish elements and
instilled it with Nazi philosophy). In private, confidantes such
as Martin Bormann, Joseph Goebbels and Albert Speer noted that he
was hostile to Christianity (though Speer also wrote that he
never formally left the Church).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler


You and facts are like oil and water, Gooper.
GOP_Decline_and_Fall
2013-10-13 12:08:14 UTC
Permalink
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 02:51:18 -0500, Johnny Johnson
Post by Johnny Johnson
NRA- and gun rights-hating VLILLLDM Sheila Bryant, posting as
"GOP_Decline_and_Fall"
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Del Amitri
Post by Siri Cruise
Post by Del Amitri
Hitler was a Christian, just like Michele Bachmann.
Godwin's law.
You can't invoke it
Sorry, too late now.
Incorrect, you abuse Godwin's Law like you abuse everything else.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law#Corollaries_and_usage
While falling afoul of Godwin's law tends to cause the individual
making the comparison to lose his argument or credibility, Godwin's
law itself can be abused as a distraction, diversion or even as
censorship, fallaciously miscasting an opponent's argument as
hyperbole when the comparisons made by the argument are actually
appropriate.
Well, Sheila; since Hitler was *not* a Christian,
That would have been news to Hitler.
Post by Johnny Johnson
and the reference was inserted as a back-handed ad hominem attack,
So you claim,but it was a simple statement of truth.
No, Hitler was a Christian fascist just like Bachmann
Post by Johnny Johnson
Religious views of Adolf Hitler
Ergo; both your and your fellow anonymously-posting VLILLLDM "Chine Bleu
Fuzzy Dice" ("Siri Cruise") have just proven that you two lost the argument
*and* your "credibility."
Congratulations! <snicker> :)
No, actually you have proved you don't know that Hitler was a
Christian

https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler%27s_religious_views

My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a
fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded
only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and
summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest
not as a sufferer but as a fighter.

In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the
passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and
seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and
adders. How terrific was his fight against the Jewish poison.

Today, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize
more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He
had to shed his blood upon the Cross.

As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I
have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice
Johnny Johnson
2013-10-13 07:51:18 UTC
Permalink
In article <***@4ax.com>, the Obama-loving and
NRA- and gun rights-hating VLILLLDM Sheila Bryant, posting as
"GOP_Decline_and_Fall"
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Del Amitri
Post by Siri Cruise
Post by Del Amitri
Hitler was a Christian, just like Michele Bachmann.
Godwin's law.
You can't invoke it
Sorry, too late now.
Incorrect, you abuse Godwin's Law like you abuse everything else.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law#Corollaries_and_usage
While falling afoul of Godwin's law tends to cause the individual
making the comparison to lose his argument or credibility, Godwin's
law itself can be abused as a distraction, diversion or even as
censorship, fallaciously miscasting an opponent's argument as
hyperbole when the comparisons made by the argument are actually
appropriate.
Well, Sheila; since Hitler was *not* a Christian, and the reference was
inserted as a back-handed ad hominem attack, "Godwin's Law" is most certainly
applicable:

Religious views of Adolf Hitler

Adolf Hitler was raised by an anticlerical, sceptic father and a devout
Catholic mother. Baptized and confirmed as a child in Austria, he ceased to
participate in the sacraments after childhood. In adulthood, Hitler became
disdainful of Christianity, but in seeking out and in trying to retain power
in Germany, he was prepared to restrain his radical instincts out of
political considerations. It is generally believed by historians that
Hitler's post war and long term goal was the eradication of Christianity in
Germany. Hitler appears not to have believed in the Judeo-Christian notion of
God, though various scholars consider his final religious position may have
been a form of deism. Others consider him "atheist". The question is debated.
During his early career, and for a variety of reasons, he made various
comments against non-Nazi atheistic (i.e. "Bolshevik") movements, and in
favour of so-called positive Christianity (a movement which purged
Christianity of its Jewish elements and instilled it with Nazi philosophy).
In private, confidantes such as Martin Bormann, Joseph Goebbels and Albert
Speer noted that he was hostile to Christianity (though Speer also wrote that
he never formally left the Church).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler

Ergo; both your and your fellow anonymously-posting VLILLLDM "Chine Bleu
Fuzzy Dice" ("Siri Cruise") have just proven that you two lost the argument
*and* your "credibility."

Congratulations! <snicker> :)
GOP_Decline_and_Fall
2013-10-13 00:07:32 UTC
Permalink
Post by Del Amitri
Post by Siri Cruise
Post by Del Amitri
Hitler was a Christian, just like Michele Bachmann.
Godwin's law.
You can't invoke it
Sorry, too late now.
Incorrect, you abuse Godwin's Law like you abuse everything else.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law#Corollaries_and_usage

While falling afoul of Godwin's law tends to cause the individual
making the comparison to lose his argument or credibility, Godwin's
law itself can be abused as a distraction, diversion or even as
censorship, fallaciously miscasting an opponent's argument as
hyperbole when the comparisons made by the argument are actually
appropriate.
Del Amitri
2013-10-12 23:42:39 UTC
Permalink
Post by Siri Cruise
Post by Del Amitri
Hitler was a Christian, just like Michele Bachmann.
Godwin's law.
You can't invoke it
Sorry, too late now.
Guy Fawkes
2013-10-12 23:56:07 UTC
Permalink
Post by Siri Cruise
Post by Del Amitri
Hitler was a Christian, just like Michele Bachmann.
Godwin's law.
You can't invoke it for a relevant mention, but for derogatory
reference. Such as 'Your welfare policy is as soulless as Michelle
Bachmann's eyes.'
I really love the persoanl attacks. It reinforces that you have nothing
relevant to contribute. You will most likely be terminated as a waste of
resources.
--
There is no court for his crimes.

"V"
GOP_Decline_and_Fall
2013-10-13 00:22:56 UTC
Permalink
On Sat, 12 Oct 2013 23:56:07 +0000 (UTC), Guy Fawkes
Post by Guy Fawkes
Post by Siri Cruise
Post by Del Amitri
Hitler was a Christian, just like Michele Bachmann.
Godwin's law.
You can't invoke it for a relevant mention, but for derogatory
reference. Such as 'Your welfare policy is as soulless as Michelle
Bachmann's eyes.'
I really love the persoanl attacks.
Yes we have noticed you do little else.
Post by Guy Fawkes
It reinforces that you have nothing
relevant to contribute.
Good self-assessment.
Post by Guy Fawkes
You will most likely be terminated as a waste of
resources.
Just go and get help.

Take a print out of your posts to a competent psychiatrist.
Del Amitri
2013-10-13 00:49:57 UTC
Permalink
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Take a print out of your posts to a competent psychiatrist.
Ram an icepick up your nose.
Del Amitri
2013-10-13 00:49:57 UTC
Permalink
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Take a print out of your posts to a competent psychiatrist.
Ram an icepick up your nose.
GOP_Decline_and_Fall
2013-10-13 00:22:56 UTC
Permalink
On Sat, 12 Oct 2013 23:56:07 +0000 (UTC), Guy Fawkes
Post by Guy Fawkes
Post by Siri Cruise
Post by Del Amitri
Hitler was a Christian, just like Michele Bachmann.
Godwin's law.
You can't invoke it for a relevant mention, but for derogatory
reference. Such as 'Your welfare policy is as soulless as Michelle
Bachmann's eyes.'
I really love the persoanl attacks.
Yes we have noticed you do little else.
Post by Guy Fawkes
It reinforces that you have nothing
relevant to contribute.
Good self-assessment.
Post by Guy Fawkes
You will most likely be terminated as a waste of
resources.
Just go and get help.

Take a print out of your posts to a competent psychiatrist.
Siri Cruise
2013-10-13 00:30:46 UTC
Permalink
Post by Guy Fawkes
Post by Siri Cruise
Post by Del Amitri
Hitler was a Christian, just like Michele Bachmann.
Godwin's law.
You can't invoke it for a relevant mention, but for derogatory
reference. Such as 'Your welfare policy is as soulless as Michelle
Bachmann's eyes.'
I really love the persoanl attacks. It reinforces that you have nothing
relevant to contribute. You will most likely be terminated as a waste of
resources.
Hmmm. So you think it's terrible behaviour to mock a person, but it's okay to
wish a person to be murderred. That's an interesting morality you have.

No, I don't wish you murderred. If a human body is a temple, murder is sacrilege.
--
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Del Amitri
2013-10-13 00:50:35 UTC
Permalink
Post by Siri Cruise
If a human body is a temple, murder is sacrilege.
--
Hint - it's not, it's just a vessel.
Del Amitri
2013-10-13 00:50:35 UTC
Permalink
Post by Siri Cruise
If a human body is a temple, murder is sacrilege.
--
Hint - it's not, it's just a vessel.
Guy Fawkes
2013-10-13 04:37:24 UTC
Permalink
Post by Siri Cruise
Post by Guy Fawkes
Post by Siri Cruise
Post by Del Amitri
Hitler was a Christian, just like Michele Bachmann.
Godwin's law.
You can't invoke it for a relevant mention, but for derogatory
reference. Such as 'Your welfare policy is as soulless as Michelle
Bachmann's eyes.'
I really love the persoanl attacks. It reinforces that you have nothing
relevant to contribute. You will most likely be terminated as a waste
of resources.
Hmmm. So you think it's terrible behaviour to mock a person, but it's
okay to wish a person to be murderred. That's an interesting morality
you have.
No, I don't wish you murderred. If a human body is a temple, murder is sacrilege.
Tell that to the aborted babies, ghoul.
--
There is no court for his crimes.

"V"
Guy Fawkes
2013-10-13 04:37:24 UTC
Permalink
Post by Siri Cruise
Post by Guy Fawkes
Post by Siri Cruise
Post by Del Amitri
Hitler was a Christian, just like Michele Bachmann.
Godwin's law.
You can't invoke it for a relevant mention, but for derogatory
reference. Such as 'Your welfare policy is as soulless as Michelle
Bachmann's eyes.'
I really love the persoanl attacks. It reinforces that you have nothing
relevant to contribute. You will most likely be terminated as a waste
of resources.
Hmmm. So you think it's terrible behaviour to mock a person, but it's
okay to wish a person to be murderred. That's an interesting morality
you have.
No, I don't wish you murderred. If a human body is a temple, murder is sacrilege.
Tell that to the aborted babies, ghoul.
--
There is no court for his crimes.

"V"
Siri Cruise
2013-10-13 00:30:46 UTC
Permalink
Post by Guy Fawkes
Post by Siri Cruise
Post by Del Amitri
Hitler was a Christian, just like Michele Bachmann.
Godwin's law.
You can't invoke it for a relevant mention, but for derogatory
reference. Such as 'Your welfare policy is as soulless as Michelle
Bachmann's eyes.'
I really love the persoanl attacks. It reinforces that you have nothing
relevant to contribute. You will most likely be terminated as a waste of
resources.
Hmmm. So you think it's terrible behaviour to mock a person, but it's okay to
wish a person to be murderred. That's an interesting morality you have.

No, I don't wish you murderred. If a human body is a temple, murder is sacrilege.
--
Guajira Guantanamera: Hell hath no fury like a nation scorned.
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Del Amitri
2013-10-13 00:48:39 UTC
Permalink
Post by Guy Fawkes
Post by Siri Cruise
Post by Del Amitri
Hitler was a Christian, just like Michele Bachmann.
Godwin's law.
You can't invoke it for a relevant mention, but for derogatory
reference. Such as 'Your welfare policy is as soulless as Michelle
Bachmann's eyes.'
I really love the persoanl attacks. It reinforces that you have nothing
relevant to contribute. You will most likely be terminated as a waste of
resources.
The Great Cull?
Guy Fawkes
2013-10-13 04:37:57 UTC
Permalink
Post by Del Amitri
Post by Guy Fawkes
Post by Siri Cruise
Post by Del Amitri
Hitler was a Christian, just like Michele Bachmann.
Godwin's law.
You can't invoke it for a relevant mention, but for derogatory
reference. Such as 'Your welfare policy is as soulless as Michelle
Bachmann's eyes.'
I really love the persoanl attacks. It reinforces that you have nothing
relevant to contribute. You will most likely be terminated as a waste of
resources.
The Great Cull?
The Great Purification.
--
There is no court for his crimes.

"V"
Guy Fawkes
2013-10-13 04:37:57 UTC
Permalink
Post by Del Amitri
Post by Guy Fawkes
Post by Siri Cruise
Post by Del Amitri
Hitler was a Christian, just like Michele Bachmann.
Godwin's law.
You can't invoke it for a relevant mention, but for derogatory
reference. Such as 'Your welfare policy is as soulless as Michelle
Bachmann's eyes.'
I really love the persoanl attacks. It reinforces that you have nothing
relevant to contribute. You will most likely be terminated as a waste of
resources.
The Great Cull?
The Great Purification.
--
There is no court for his crimes.

"V"
Del Amitri
2013-10-13 00:48:39 UTC
Permalink
Post by Guy Fawkes
Post by Siri Cruise
Post by Del Amitri
Hitler was a Christian, just like Michele Bachmann.
Godwin's law.
You can't invoke it for a relevant mention, but for derogatory
reference. Such as 'Your welfare policy is as soulless as Michelle
Bachmann's eyes.'
I really love the persoanl attacks. It reinforces that you have nothing
relevant to contribute. You will most likely be terminated as a waste of
resources.
The Great Cull?
Guy Fawkes
2013-10-12 23:56:07 UTC
Permalink
Post by Siri Cruise
Post by Del Amitri
Hitler was a Christian, just like Michele Bachmann.
Godwin's law.
You can't invoke it for a relevant mention, but for derogatory
reference. Such as 'Your welfare policy is as soulless as Michelle
Bachmann's eyes.'
I really love the persoanl attacks. It reinforces that you have nothing
relevant to contribute. You will most likely be terminated as a waste of
resources.
--
There is no court for his crimes.

"V"
Siri Cruise
2013-10-12 23:37:56 UTC
Permalink
Post by Del Amitri
Hitler was a Christian, just like Michele Bachmann.
Godwin's law.
You can't invoke it for a relevant mention, but for derogatory reference. Such
as 'Your welfare policy is as soulless as Michelle Bachmann's eyes.'
--
Guajira Guantanamera: Hell hath no fury like a nation scorned.
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GOP_Decline_and_Fall
2013-10-13 00:11:14 UTC
Permalink
Post by Del Amitri
Hitler was a Christian, just like Michele Bachmann.
Godwin's law.
The odiousness of the distorted GodwinÂ’s Law

http://www.salon.com/2010/07/01/godwin/

Prohibitions that arose from German aggression were meant to be
applied, not shrouded with a code of silence
Del Amitri
2013-10-13 00:48:18 UTC
Permalink
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Del Amitri
Hitler was a Christian, just like Michele Bachmann.
Godwin's law.
The odiousness
Yes, now fuck off and die.
Del Amitri
2013-10-13 00:48:18 UTC
Permalink
Post by GOP_Decline_and_Fall
Post by Del Amitri
Hitler was a Christian, just like Michele Bachmann.
Godwin's law.
The odiousness
Yes, now fuck off and die.
GOP_Decline_and_Fall
2013-10-13 00:11:14 UTC
Permalink
Post by Del Amitri
Hitler was a Christian, just like Michele Bachmann.
Godwin's law.
The odiousness of the distorted GodwinÂ’s Law

http://www.salon.com/2010/07/01/godwin/

Prohibitions that arose from German aggression were meant to be
applied, not shrouded with a code of silence
Johnny Johnson
2013-10-13 07:39:41 UTC
Permalink
Post by Del Amitri
Hitler was a Christian, just like Michele Bachmann.
Godwin's law.
Not only that:

Michele Bachmann on her love for Israel, and considering herself Jewish
by Jenna Mitelman March 24, 2010

"I have been a long time supporter of Israel. The first time I went to Israel
was the day I graduated from high school. I spent a summer working on Kibbutz
Be?eri near Beer Sheva in 1974. I've been 4 times in Israel --- 3 times as a
Member of Congress. I loved Israel --- from the moment I first landed.

As a young girl from Anoka, I was shocked at the level of security in Israel.

We worked on the kibbutz from 4 am to noon. We were always accompanied by
soldiers with machine guns. While we were working, the soldiers were walking
around looking for land mines. I really learned a lot in Israel.

I was delighted to go back as a Member of Congress, and see all the changes.
To see how it has developed - it is nothing short of a miracle! To see a rose
bloom in the desert. In 60 years, Israel has achieved first world, or nearly
first world, status.

I am honored to be in a position where I can help Israel. I have a tremendous
love for Israel, and great admiration for the Israeli people. I am a
Christian, but I consider my heritage Jewish, because it is the foundation,
the roots of my faith as a Christian.

http://tcjewfolk.com/michele-bachmann-israel/

and:

Religious views of Adolf Hitler

Adolf Hitler was raised by an anticlerical, sceptic father and a devout
Catholic mother. Baptized and confirmed as a child in Austria, he ceased to
participate in the sacraments after childhood. In adulthood, Hitler became
disdainful of Christianity, but in seeking out and in trying to retain power
in Germany, he was prepared to restrain his radical instincts out of
political considerations. It is generally believed by historians that
Hitler's post war and long term goal was the eradication of Christianity in
Germany. Hitler appears not to have believed in the Judeo-Christian notion of
God, though various scholars consider his final religious position may have
been a form of deism. Others consider him "atheist". The question is debated.
During his early career, and for a variety of reasons, he made various
comments against non-Nazi atheistic (i.e. "Bolshevik") movements, and in
favour of so-called positive Christianity (a movement which purged
Christianity of its Jewish elements and instilled it with Nazi philosophy).
In private, confidantes such as Martin Bormann, Joseph Goebbels and Albert
Speer noted that he was hostile to Christianity (though Speer also wrote that
he never formally left the Church).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler
Siri Cruise
2013-10-13 08:27:35 UTC
Permalink
Post by Johnny Johnson
We worked on the kibbutz from 4 am to noon. We were always accompanied by
soldiers with machine guns. While we were working, the soldiers were walking
around looking for land mines. I really learned a lot in Israel.
...
Post by Johnny Johnson
I am honored to be in a position where I can help Israel. I have a tremendous
love for Israel, and great admiration for the Israeli people. I am a
Christian, but I consider my heritage Jewish, because it is the foundation,
the roots of my faith as a Christian.
Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly
they are ferocious wolves. By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people
pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? Likewise, every good tree
bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad
fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good
fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Thus, by their fruit you will
recognize them.


So what does the fruit of Israel taste like to you?

http://www.jspace.com/news/articles/goan-official-calls-israeli-tourists-menace/1
0335
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Siri Cruise
2013-10-13 08:27:35 UTC
Permalink
Post by Johnny Johnson
We worked on the kibbutz from 4 am to noon. We were always accompanied by
soldiers with machine guns. While we were working, the soldiers were walking
around looking for land mines. I really learned a lot in Israel.
...
Post by Johnny Johnson
I am honored to be in a position where I can help Israel. I have a tremendous
love for Israel, and great admiration for the Israeli people. I am a
Christian, but I consider my heritage Jewish, because it is the foundation,
the roots of my faith as a Christian.
Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly
they are ferocious wolves. By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people
pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? Likewise, every good tree
bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad
fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good
fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Thus, by their fruit you will
recognize them.


So what does the fruit of Israel taste like to you?

http://www.jspace.com/news/articles/goan-official-calls-israeli-tourists-menace/1
0335
--
Guajira Guantanamera: Hell hath no fury like a nation scorned.
:-<> Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. Deleted.
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Johnny Johnson
2013-10-13 07:39:41 UTC
Permalink
Post by Del Amitri
Hitler was a Christian, just like Michele Bachmann.
Godwin's law.
Not only that:

Michele Bachmann on her love for Israel, and considering herself Jewish
by Jenna Mitelman March 24, 2010

"I have been a long time supporter of Israel. The first time I went to Israel
was the day I graduated from high school. I spent a summer working on Kibbutz
Be?eri near Beer Sheva in 1974. I've been 4 times in Israel --- 3 times as a
Member of Congress. I loved Israel --- from the moment I first landed.

As a young girl from Anoka, I was shocked at the level of security in Israel.

We worked on the kibbutz from 4 am to noon. We were always accompanied by
soldiers with machine guns. While we were working, the soldiers were walking
around looking for land mines. I really learned a lot in Israel.

I was delighted to go back as a Member of Congress, and see all the changes.
To see how it has developed - it is nothing short of a miracle! To see a rose
bloom in the desert. In 60 years, Israel has achieved first world, or nearly
first world, status.

I am honored to be in a position where I can help Israel. I have a tremendous
love for Israel, and great admiration for the Israeli people. I am a
Christian, but I consider my heritage Jewish, because it is the foundation,
the roots of my faith as a Christian.

http://tcjewfolk.com/michele-bachmann-israel/

and:

Religious views of Adolf Hitler

Adolf Hitler was raised by an anticlerical, sceptic father and a devout
Catholic mother. Baptized and confirmed as a child in Austria, he ceased to
participate in the sacraments after childhood. In adulthood, Hitler became
disdainful of Christianity, but in seeking out and in trying to retain power
in Germany, he was prepared to restrain his radical instincts out of
political considerations. It is generally believed by historians that
Hitler's post war and long term goal was the eradication of Christianity in
Germany. Hitler appears not to have believed in the Judeo-Christian notion of
God, though various scholars consider his final religious position may have
been a form of deism. Others consider him "atheist". The question is debated.
During his early career, and for a variety of reasons, he made various
comments against non-Nazi atheistic (i.e. "Bolshevik") movements, and in
favour of so-called positive Christianity (a movement which purged
Christianity of its Jewish elements and instilled it with Nazi philosophy).
In private, confidantes such as Martin Bormann, Joseph Goebbels and Albert
Speer noted that he was hostile to Christianity (though Speer also wrote that
he never formally left the Church).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler
Del Amitri
2013-10-12 23:24:40 UTC
Permalink
Hitler was a Christian, just like Michele Bachmann.
Godwin's law.
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