US sees biggest EVER spike in homelessness as country sees a record 11% increase in a year to nearly 600,000 rough sleepers: San Francisco and Oakland are 'hotbeds' with 'drug tourists' flocking to the cities

[useapen]

The United States has seen the biggest ever spike in homeless people
living on the streets - as preliminary figures showed a record 11 percent
increase in one year.

There are nearly 600,000 rough sleepers across cities and towns in
America, and the jump from 2022 to 2023 so far is the highest since the
government started tracking the data in 2007, according to the WSJ.

Places like Oakland and San Francisco in California have become hotbeds
for homelessness, as people living on the streets are like 'drug tourists'
who arrive to have easy access to narcotics.

The numbers keep increasing year-on-year in Los Angeles and Seattle too.

Using data from 300 entities that count the number of homeless people in
different vicinities, the WSJ estimated 577,000 people are sleeping rough
so far this year, compared with 582,462 in the whole of 2022.

Last year's total was up dramatically from the 380,630 recorded in 2021 -
a total the WSJ says is lower because of pandemic counting disruptions.

The Department of Housing and Urban Development is expected to publish
formal figures this year, but the preliminary study has shown how the
issues of crime, drug abuse, and lack of housing has exacerbated the
number of homelessness.

And the chronic homeless number for 2022 - categorized as people who have
a disabling condition who have been unhoused for a year or more - was
138,361.

This was up from 64,278 in 2021 - again thought to be lower than normal
due to pandemic counting disruptions.

During the pandemic, there were relief programs in place across the US to
ease the burden of housing issues - including eviction bans for renters -
but now with these schemes petering out, homelessness has become a more
acute problem.

Costs and the lack of available housing are also big issues - as well as
the migrant crisis.

In city centers like New York, an average of 2,300 migrants from the
border arrive weekly - putting a strain on housing and forcing many to
take to the streets.

Just last week, hundreds of people were forced to sleep outside the
Roosevelt Hotel in Midtown Manhattan for days while seeking temporary
housing facilities.

Seneca Scott, founder of Neighbors Together Oakland, told Fox about the
California cities: 'Oakland and San Francisco have become the promised
land of milk and fentanyl, and people are coming here.

'People who are homeless in Oakland now typically are not from here.
They’re drug tourists. They’re coming here for the safe and easy access to
their drug of choice and the ability to also steal to support those habits
because there’s no rule of law.

'Our homeless crisis has helped deteriorate our property value. If you
combine that with the eviction moratorium and other government policies,
we have a situation now where the property values of people are
plummeting.'

In Oakland, the homeless population has grown to over 5,000 - a 50 percent
increase - since 2015, according to city data.

The devastating homeless crisis is also tormenting downtown LA - where
filthy ramshackle tent cities are plagued by zombie-like residents smoking
drugs, while others hawk stolen goods on street corners.

There are currently an estimated 42,260 people sleeping rough in the City
of Angels - a startling 10 percent rise compared to just last year, Los
Angeles Homeless Services Authority reported.

Just this week, it emerged that the city had resorted to sending mobile
teams with oxygen cylinders to Skid Row in a desperate bid to prevent
overdoses amid its crippling opioid crisis.

Workers from the non profit Homeless Health Care Los Angeles are now
patrolling the streets among snaking lines of makeshift dwellings where
homeless people can be seen sleeping among the few belongings they own -
as others in dire health inject or smoke illicit substances.

The number of homeless people in LA has more than doubled in the past
decade.

There was a 9 percent rise in homelessness in Los Angeles County between
2022 and 2023, with the unhoused population now totaling 75,518 people,
according to the latest data from the LAHSA.

The city of Los Angeles saw an estimated 10 percent rise to a total of
46,260 people.

And in Seattle, residents were furious after hundreds of tiny homes meant
to house the homeless sit locked up in storage while sprawling homeless
encampments grow.

The King County Regional Homelessness Authority (KCRHA), the agency tasked
with coordinating homeless services in the city, has been put on blast for
the delay in deploying the miniature homes.

Komo News revealed that there are at least 204 unused homes that are
locked up and kept guarded by a fence, leaving people to sleep on the
streets.

The homeless population in Seattle grew by nearly 38 percent from 2020 to
2022, with about 7,620 people reported to be living outside in King
County.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12406201/US-spike-homeless-
people-record.html

[pothead]

Post by useapen
The United States has seen the biggest ever spike in homeless people
living on the streets - as preliminary figures showed a record 11 percent
increase in one year.
There are nearly 600,000 rough sleepers across cities and towns in
America, and the jump from 2022 to 2023 so far is the highest since the
government started tracking the data in 2007, according to the WSJ.
Places like Oakland and San Francisco in California have become hotbeds
for homelessness, as people living on the streets are like 'drug tourists'
who arrive to have easy access to narcotics.
The numbers keep increasing year-on-year in Los Angeles and Seattle too.
Using data from 300 entities that count the number of homeless people in
different vicinities, the WSJ estimated 577,000 people are sleeping rough
so far this year, compared with 582,462 in the whole of 2022.
Last year's total was up dramatically from the 380,630 recorded in 2021 -
a total the WSJ says is lower because of pandemic counting disruptions.
The Department of Housing and Urban Development is expected to publish
formal figures this year, but the preliminary study has shown how the
issues of crime, drug abuse, and lack of housing has exacerbated the
number of homelessness.
And the chronic homeless number for 2022 - categorized as people who have
a disabling condition who have been unhoused for a year or more - was
138,361.
This was up from 64,278 in 2021 - again thought to be lower than normal
due to pandemic counting disruptions.
During the pandemic, there were relief programs in place across the US to
ease the burden of housing issues - including eviction bans for renters -
but now with these schemes petering out, homelessness has become a more
acute problem.
Costs and the lack of available housing are also big issues - as well as
the migrant crisis.
In city centers like New York, an average of 2,300 migrants from the
border arrive weekly - putting a strain on housing and forcing many to
take to the streets.
Just last week, hundreds of people were forced to sleep outside the
Roosevelt Hotel in Midtown Manhattan for days while seeking temporary
housing facilities.
Seneca Scott, founder of Neighbors Together Oakland, told Fox about the
California cities: 'Oakland and San Francisco have become the promised
land of milk and fentanyl, and people are coming here.
'People who are homeless in Oakland now typically are not from here.
They’re drug tourists. They’re coming here for the safe and easy access to
their drug of choice and the ability to also steal to support those habits
because there’s no rule of law.
'Our homeless crisis has helped deteriorate our property value. If you
combine that with the eviction moratorium and other government policies,
we have a situation now where the property values of people are
plummeting.'
In Oakland, the homeless population has grown to over 5,000 - a 50 percent
increase - since 2015, according to city data.
The devastating homeless crisis is also tormenting downtown LA - where
filthy ramshackle tent cities are plagued by zombie-like residents smoking
drugs, while others hawk stolen goods on street corners.
There are currently an estimated 42,260 people sleeping rough in the City
of Angels - a startling 10 percent rise compared to just last year, Los
Angeles Homeless Services Authority reported.
Just this week, it emerged that the city had resorted to sending mobile
teams with oxygen cylinders to Skid Row in a desperate bid to prevent
overdoses amid its crippling opioid crisis.
Workers from the non profit Homeless Health Care Los Angeles are now
patrolling the streets among snaking lines of makeshift dwellings where
homeless people can be seen sleeping among the few belongings they own -
as others in dire health inject or smoke illicit substances.
The number of homeless people in LA has more than doubled in the past
decade.
There was a 9 percent rise in homelessness in Los Angeles County between
2022 and 2023, with the unhoused population now totaling 75,518 people,
according to the latest data from the LAHSA.
The city of Los Angeles saw an estimated 10 percent rise to a total of
46,260 people.
And in Seattle, residents were furious after hundreds of tiny homes meant
to house the homeless sit locked up in storage while sprawling homeless
encampments grow.
The King County Regional Homelessness Authority (KCRHA), the agency tasked
with coordinating homeless services in the city, has been put on blast for
the delay in deploying the miniature homes.
Komo News revealed that there are at least 204 unused homes that are
locked up and kept guarded by a fence, leaving people to sleep on the
streets.
The homeless population in Seattle grew by nearly 38 percent from 2020 to
2022, with about 7,620 people reported to be living outside in King
County.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12406201/US-spike-homeless-
people-record.html

And as long as Joe Biden and the democrats are in office, things will only continue to get worse.
We are looking at a full scale depression in the future.

[Frank]

Post by pothead

Post by useapen
The United States has seen the biggest ever spike in homeless people
living on the streets - as preliminary figures showed a record 11 percent
increase in one year.
There are nearly 600,000 rough sleepers across cities and towns in
America, and the jump from 2022 to 2023 so far is the highest since the
government started tracking the data in 2007, according to the WSJ.
Places like Oakland and San Francisco in California have become hotbeds
for homelessness, as people living on the streets are like 'drug tourists'
who arrive to have easy access to narcotics.
The numbers keep increasing year-on-year in Los Angeles and Seattle too.
Using data from 300 entities that count the number of homeless people in
different vicinities, the WSJ estimated 577,000 people are sleeping rough
so far this year, compared with 582,462 in the whole of 2022.
Last year's total was up dramatically from the 380,630 recorded in 2021 -
a total the WSJ says is lower because of pandemic counting disruptions.
The Department of Housing and Urban Development is expected to publish
formal figures this year, but the preliminary study has shown how the
issues of crime, drug abuse, and lack of housing has exacerbated the
number of homelessness.
And the chronic homeless number for 2022 - categorized as people who have
a disabling condition who have been unhoused for a year or more - was
138,361.
This was up from 64,278 in 2021 - again thought to be lower than normal
due to pandemic counting disruptions.
During the pandemic, there were relief programs in place across the US to
ease the burden of housing issues - including eviction bans for renters -
but now with these schemes petering out, homelessness has become a more
acute problem.
Costs and the lack of available housing are also big issues - as well as
the migrant crisis.
In city centers like New York, an average of 2,300 migrants from the
border arrive weekly - putting a strain on housing and forcing many to
take to the streets.
Just last week, hundreds of people were forced to sleep outside the
Roosevelt Hotel in Midtown Manhattan for days while seeking temporary
housing facilities.
Seneca Scott, founder of Neighbors Together Oakland, told Fox about the
California cities: 'Oakland and San Francisco have become the promised
land of milk and fentanyl, and people are coming here.
'People who are homeless in Oakland now typically are not from here.
They’re drug tourists. They’re coming here for the safe and easy access to
their drug of choice and the ability to also steal to support those habits
because there’s no rule of law.
'Our homeless crisis has helped deteriorate our property value. If you
combine that with the eviction moratorium and other government policies,
we have a situation now where the property values of people are
plummeting.'
In Oakland, the homeless population has grown to over 5,000 - a 50 percent
increase - since 2015, according to city data.
The devastating homeless crisis is also tormenting downtown LA - where
filthy ramshackle tent cities are plagued by zombie-like residents smoking
drugs, while others hawk stolen goods on street corners.
There are currently an estimated 42,260 people sleeping rough in the City
of Angels - a startling 10 percent rise compared to just last year, Los
Angeles Homeless Services Authority reported.
Just this week, it emerged that the city had resorted to sending mobile
teams with oxygen cylinders to Skid Row in a desperate bid to prevent
overdoses amid its crippling opioid crisis.
Workers from the non profit Homeless Health Care Los Angeles are now
patrolling the streets among snaking lines of makeshift dwellings where
homeless people can be seen sleeping among the few belongings they own -
as others in dire health inject or smoke illicit substances.
The number of homeless people in LA has more than doubled in the past
decade.
There was a 9 percent rise in homelessness in Los Angeles County between
2022 and 2023, with the unhoused population now totaling 75,518 people,
according to the latest data from the LAHSA.
The city of Los Angeles saw an estimated 10 percent rise to a total of
46,260 people.
And in Seattle, residents were furious after hundreds of tiny homes meant
to house the homeless sit locked up in storage while sprawling homeless
encampments grow.
The King County Regional Homelessness Authority (KCRHA), the agency tasked
with coordinating homeless services in the city, has been put on blast for
the delay in deploying the miniature homes.
Komo News revealed that there are at least 204 unused homes that are
locked up and kept guarded by a fence, leaving people to sleep on the
streets.
The homeless population in Seattle grew by nearly 38 percent from 2020 to
2022, with about 7,620 people reported to be living outside in King
County.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12406201/US-spike-homeless-
people-record.html

And as long as Joe Biden and the democrats are in office, things will only continue to get worse.
We are looking at a full scale depression in the future.

I keep reading article on the economy of things that the middle class
can no longer afford. They mention stuff like housing, expensive
vacations, college education and new cars.

This is bound to push the lower class even lower.

[Ed P]

Post by Frank

Post by pothead

Post by useapen
The homeless population in Seattle grew by nearly 38 percent from 2020 to
2022, with about 7,620 people reported to be living outside in King
County.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12406201/US-spike-homeless-
people-record.html

And as long as Joe Biden and the democrats are in office, things will
only continue to get worse.
We are looking at a full scale depression in the future.

I keep reading article on the economy of things that the middle class
can no longer afford.  They mention stuff like housing, expensive
vacations, college education and new cars.
This is bound to push the lower class even lower.

I see a couple of problems. Ease of getting drugs is a big one. Not
sure why so many people are dumb enough to use them.

As for affordability, the lower and medium classes are much different
than years ago. Yes, a big differential. With just a part high school
education, you could get a semi skilled job in a factory and make enough
to buy a modest used car, pay rent, groceries. Those jobs are now in
China or Mexico.

More kids went to college. Some did very well, others took some
Interpretive Dance courses, racked up a lot of student debt, and are now
a barista or flipping burgers.

In "hours worked" money, we can buy a big TV much cheaper than our
parents could dream of, but the workers that made a decent wage to
assemble them are now overseas.

There are other factors. The landlord with a couple of modest
properties is being replaced by investment firms buying them up and
jacking rents, etc.

[pothead]

Post by Ed P

Post by Frank

Post by pothead

Post by useapen
The homeless population in Seattle grew by nearly 38 percent from 2020 to
2022, with about 7,620 people reported to be living outside in King
County.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12406201/US-spike-homeless-
people-record.html

And as long as Joe Biden and the democrats are in office, things will
only continue to get worse.
We are looking at a full scale depression in the future.

I keep reading article on the economy of things that the middle class
can no longer afford.  They mention stuff like housing, expensive
vacations, college education and new cars.
This is bound to push the lower class even lower.

I see a couple of problems. Ease of getting drugs is a big one. Not
sure why so many people are dumb enough to use them.
As for affordability, the lower and medium classes are much different
than years ago. Yes, a big differential. With just a part high school
education, you could get a semi skilled job in a factory and make enough
to buy a modest used car, pay rent, groceries. Those jobs are now in
China or Mexico.
More kids went to college. Some did very well, others took some
Interpretive Dance courses, racked up a lot of student debt, and are now
a barista or flipping burgers.
In "hours worked" money, we can buy a big TV much cheaper than our
parents could dream of, but the workers that made a decent wage to
assemble them are now overseas.
There are other factors. The landlord with a couple of modest
properties is being replaced by investment firms buying them up and
jacking rents, etc.

All excellent points!
I agree.

[Frank]

Post by pothead

Post by Ed P

Post by Frank

Post by pothead

Post by useapen
The homeless population in Seattle grew by nearly 38 percent from 2020 to
2022, with about 7,620 people reported to be living outside in King
County.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12406201/US-spike-homeless-
people-record.html

And as long as Joe Biden and the democrats are in office, things will
only continue to get worse.
We are looking at a full scale depression in the future.

I keep reading article on the economy of things that the middle class
can no longer afford.  They mention stuff like housing, expensive
vacations, college education and new cars.
This is bound to push the lower class even lower.

I see a couple of problems. Ease of getting drugs is a big one. Not
sure why so many people are dumb enough to use them.
As for affordability, the lower and medium classes are much different
than years ago. Yes, a big differential. With just a part high school
education, you could get a semi skilled job in a factory and make enough
to buy a modest used car, pay rent, groceries. Those jobs are now in
China or Mexico.
More kids went to college. Some did very well, others took some
Interpretive Dance courses, racked up a lot of student debt, and are now
a barista or flipping burgers.
In "hours worked" money, we can buy a big TV much cheaper than our
parents could dream of, but the workers that made a decent wage to
assemble them are now overseas.
There are other factors. The landlord with a couple of modest
properties is being replaced by investment firms buying them up and
jacking rents, etc.

All excellent points!
I agree.

Yes but vastly accelerated in the last three years by inflation. Some
was caused by covid shutting down supply but not demand but bulk caused
by war on fossil fuels and rampant government spending.

[pothead]

Post by Frank

Post by pothead

Post by Ed P

Post by Frank

Post by pothead

Post by useapen
The homeless population in Seattle grew by nearly 38 percent from 2020 to
2022, with about 7,620 people reported to be living outside in King
County.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12406201/US-spike-homeless-
people-record.html

And as long as Joe Biden and the democrats are in office, things will
only continue to get worse.
We are looking at a full scale depression in the future.

I keep reading article on the economy of things that the middle class
can no longer afford.  They mention stuff like housing, expensive
vacations, college education and new cars.
This is bound to push the lower class even lower.

I see a couple of problems. Ease of getting drugs is a big one. Not
sure why so many people are dumb enough to use them.
As for affordability, the lower and medium classes are much different
than years ago. Yes, a big differential. With just a part high school
education, you could get a semi skilled job in a factory and make enough
to buy a modest used car, pay rent, groceries. Those jobs are now in
China or Mexico.
More kids went to college. Some did very well, others took some
Interpretive Dance courses, racked up a lot of student debt, and are now
a barista or flipping burgers.
In "hours worked" money, we can buy a big TV much cheaper than our
parents could dream of, but the workers that made a decent wage to
assemble them are now overseas.
There are other factors. The landlord with a couple of modest
properties is being replaced by investment firms buying them up and
jacking rents, etc.

All excellent points!
I agree.

Yes but vastly accelerated in the last three years by inflation. Some
was caused by covid shutting down supply but not demand but bulk caused
by war on fossil fuels and rampant government spending.

Correct.
The war on fossil fuels is the big one. This affects virtually everything consumers purchase.

BTW the majority of Americans would gladly pay a little more for product if it meant less corporate
profits and the product was made here in USA. If corporate greed were not the driving force, this
could easily be accomplished.

Here is the latest on the obscene salaries CEO are being paid.

<https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/ceo-pay-rising-widening-gap-top-executives-workers-110783742>

[Ed P]

Post by pothead

Post by Frank

Post by pothead
All excellent points!
I agree.

Yes but vastly accelerated in the last three years by inflation. Some
was caused by covid shutting down supply but not demand but bulk caused
by war on fossil fuels and rampant government spending.

Correct.
The war on fossil fuels is the big one. This affects virtually everything consumers purchase.
BTW the majority of Americans would gladly pay a little more for product if it meant less corporate
profits and the product was made here in USA. If corporate greed were not the driving force, this
could easily be accomplished.
Here is the latest on the obscene salaries CEO are being paid.
<https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/ceo-pay-rising-widening-gap-top-executives-workers-110783742>

CEO wages are just like sports today. Ball players are getting huge
wages to play a game they did for fun. The money is the score keeping
for CEO and celebrities.

People are paying hundreds to see a Taylor Swift concert. I don't get
it. Joe Sixpack is supporting to all too.

[Loran]

Post by Ed P

Post by pothead

Post by pothead
All excellent points!
I agree.

Yes but vastly accelerated in the last three years by inflation.  Some
was caused by covid shutting down supply but not demand but bulk caused
by war on fossil fuels and rampant government spending.

Correct.
The war on fossil fuels is the big one. This affects virtually
everything consumers purchase.
BTW the majority of Americans would gladly pay a little more for
product if it meant less corporate
profits and the product was made here in USA. If corporate greed were
not the driving force, this
could easily be accomplished.
Here is the latest on the obscene salaries CEO are being paid.
<https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/ceo-pay-rising-widening-gap-top-executives-workers-110783742>

CEO wages are just like sports today.

Not even close!

Post by Ed P
Ball players are getting huge
wages to play a game they did for fun.

Initially...then for a career!

Damn those young, predominantly black capitalists anyway, right eddie?

Post by Ed P
The money is the score keeping for CEO and celebrities.

That is utter BULLSHIT with no citation to even begin to support your
personal spite campaign, asshole.

Post by Ed P
People are paying hundreds to see a Taylor Swift concert.  I don't get
it.  Joe Sixpack is supporting to all too.

MIND CONTROL by your Goddamned DEEP STATE, ya pissant jackoff!

[Cindy Hamilton]

Post by Ed P
I see a couple of problems. Ease of getting drugs is a big one. Not
sure why so many people are dumb enough to use them.

Self-medicating for despair. Because of what you talk about in your

Post by Ed P
As for affordability, the lower and medium classes are much different
than years ago. Yes, a big differential. With just a part high school
education, you could get a semi skilled job in a factory and make enough
to buy a modest used car, pay rent, groceries. Those jobs are now in
China or Mexico.

Offshored because
corporations want profits and can't think beyond the next quarter
consumers want low prices and can't think beyond Friday

[dale zinram]

Post by Cindy Hamilton

Post by Ed P
I see a couple of problems. Ease of getting drugs is a big one. Not
sure why so many people are dumb enough to use them.

Self-medicating for despair. Because of what you talk about in your

Thank innovation suffocating unions and short-sighted Democrats for both.

Post by Cindy Hamilton

Post by Ed P
As for affordability, the lower and medium classes are much different
than years ago. Yes, a big differential. With just a part high school
education, you could get a semi skilled job in a factory and make enough
to buy a modest used car, pay rent, groceries. Those jobs are now in
China or Mexico.

Offshored because
corporations want profits and can't think beyond the next quarter
consumers want low prices and can't think beyond Friday

Profits are how one stays in business.

Consider this.

Mexico is the primary source of illegal drugs into the USA.
Mexico is the primary source of illegal immigration into the USA.
Mexico is a major beneficiary of US job losses, Maytag, Hersey,
Honeywell, GM, Nabisco (Oreos), Rexnord, Carrier, among many others.
Mexican produce costs considerably less than American produce, but may
have banned pesticides, random chemical content or raw sewage born
illnesses. Lower wage tier consumers will buy the Mexican produce and
over time suffer life altering illnesses that increase health care costs
for everyone else.

So why should we reward Mexico with increases to their standards of
living when they are intentionally, negatively impacting ours?

[Ed P]

Post by dale zinram

I see a couple of problems.  Ease of getting drugs is a big one.  Not
sure why so many people are dumb enough to use them.

Self-medicating for despair.  Because of what you talk about in your

Thank innovation suffocating unions and short-sighted Democrats for both.

As for affordability, the lower and medium classes are much different
than years ago. Yes, a big differential.  With just a part high school
education, you could get a semi skilled job in a factory and make enough
to buy a modest used car, pay rent, groceries.  Those jobs are now in
China or Mexico.

Offshored because
corporations want profits and can't think beyond the next quarter
consumers want low prices and can't think beyond Friday

Profits are how one stays in business.
Consider this.
Mexico is the primary source of illegal drugs into the USA.
Mexico is the primary source of illegal immigration into the USA.
Mexico is a major beneficiary of US job losses, Maytag, Hersey,
Honeywell, GM, Nabisco (Oreos), Rexnord, Carrier, among many others.
Mexican produce costs considerably less than American produce, but may
have banned pesticides, random chemical content or raw sewage born
illnesses.  Lower wage tier consumers will buy the Mexican produce and
over time suffer life altering illnesses that increase health care costs
for everyone else.
So why should we reward Mexico with increases to their standards of
living when they are intentionally, negatively impacting ours?

So who sent those jobs to Mexico? You mention the democrats, but I
think it was the Industrial Titans that wanted more profit.

[Governor Swill]

Post by Ed P

Post by dale zinram

I see a couple of problems.  Ease of getting drugs is a big one.  Not
sure why so many people are dumb enough to use them.

Self-medicating for despair.  Because of what you talk about in your

Thank innovation suffocating unions and short-sighted Democrats for both.

As for affordability, the lower and medium classes are much different
than years ago. Yes, a big differential.  With just a part high school
education, you could get a semi skilled job in a factory and make enough
to buy a modest used car, pay rent, groceries.  Those jobs are now in
China or Mexico.

Offshored because
corporations want profits and can't think beyond the next quarter
consumers want low prices and can't think beyond Friday

Profits are how one stays in business.
Consider this.
Mexico is the primary source of illegal drugs into the USA.
Mexico is the primary source of illegal immigration into the USA.
Mexico is a major beneficiary of US job losses, Maytag, Hersey,
Honeywell, GM, Nabisco (Oreos), Rexnord, Carrier, among many others.
Mexican produce costs considerably less than American produce, but may
have banned pesticides, random chemical content or raw sewage born
illnesses.  Lower wage tier consumers will buy the Mexican produce and
over time suffer life altering illnesses that increase health care costs
for everyone else.
So why should we reward Mexico with increases to their standards of
living when they are intentionally, negatively impacting ours?

So who sent those jobs to Mexico? You mention the democrats, but I
think it was the Industrial Titans that wanted more profit.

And I believe Reagan led the charge to open free trade which allowed them to send so many
jobs overseas.

Swill
--
#nevertrump

"Your reputation will be damaged as everybody's reputation is damaged who gets involved
with Donald Trump. He's damaged goods, There's no good dealing with him
because you will end up on the bottom of a pyre." - Steve Cohen to John Durham

Durham, Meadows, Cohen, Ellis, Eastman, Bobb, Giuliani, Lindell, Nauta

Let's not add America to this list.

#nevertrump

[Loran]

Post by Governor Swill
And I believe Reagan

Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

Sláva Ukrajíni! Glory to Ukraine!

Putin tse prezervatyv! Putin is a condom!

Go here to donate to Ukrainian relief.

Let's see you live up to your hypocritical pro-Ukraine smack talk and
join up and go serve on the front with Russia then, little man ball.

You gutless, failed solar city installer.

[Loran]

Post by dale zinram
So why should we reward Mexico with increases to their standards of
living when they are intentionally, negatively impacting ours?

So who sent those jobs to Mexico?  You mention the democrats, but I
think it was the Industrial Titans that wanted more profit.

And no Demtards were involved?

Are you for fucking real???

Demotards have opened our borders!

[Governor Swill]

Post by dale zinram

Post by Cindy Hamilton

Post by Ed P
I see a couple of problems. Ease of getting drugs is a big one. Not
sure why so many people are dumb enough to use them.

Self-medicating for despair. Because of what you talk about in your

Thank innovation suffocating unions and short-sighted Democrats for both.

Post by Cindy Hamilton

Post by Ed P
As for affordability, the lower and medium classes are much different
than years ago. Yes, a big differential. With just a part high school
education, you could get a semi skilled job in a factory and make enough
to buy a modest used car, pay rent, groceries. Those jobs are now in
China or Mexico.

Offshored because
corporations want profits and can't think beyond the next quarter
consumers want low prices and can't think beyond Friday

Profits are how one stays in business.
Consider this.
Mexico is the primary source of illegal drugs into the USA.
Mexico is the primary source of illegal immigration into the USA.
Mexico is a major beneficiary of US job losses, Maytag, Hersey,
Honeywell, GM, Nabisco (Oreos), Rexnord, Carrier, among many others.
Mexican produce costs considerably less than American produce, but may
have banned pesticides, random chemical content or raw sewage born
illnesses. Lower wage tier consumers will buy the Mexican produce and
over time suffer life altering illnesses that increase health care costs
for everyone else.
So why should we reward Mexico with increases to their standards of
living when they are intentionally, negatively impacting ours?

Because as their standard of living goes up, there is less pressure to the migrate to the
US. And it's working. Actual "Mexican" illegals are down. A dozen other nations are
using that border now.

That said, the influx is to our advantage. Increasing population keeps our economy
growing. Our birth rates are so low we need the immigrants.

Heavy immigration to Europe and North America, especially from Africa and the ME is
natural human migration and you can't stop it. You can't control it. You can only make
use of it.

These population pyramids illustrate the problem of the retiree to worker ratio.
https://www.populationpyramid.net/western-europe/2023/
https://www.populationpyramid.net/eastern-europe/2023/
https://www.populationpyramid.net/united-states-of-america/2023/
https://www.populationpyramid.net/russian-federation/2023/
https://www.populationpyramid.net/china/2023/
https://www.populationpyramid.net/japan/2023/
Note also the total population curve of each of these to the right.

Compare these to the whole world's pyramid:
https://www.populationpyramid.net/

And as a sample from the middle east:
https://www.populationpyramid.net/syrian-arab-republic/2023/

Click on the population curve years on the right and you can see the pyramid morph on the
left. Waves of population change roll upwards.

Swill
--
#nevertrump

"Your reputation will be damaged as everybody's reputation is damaged who gets involved
with Donald Trump. He's damaged goods, There's no good dealing with him
because you will end up on the bottom of a pyre." - Steve Cohen to John Durham

Durham, Meadows, Cohen, Ellis, Eastman, Bobb, Giuliani, Lindell, Nauta

Let's not add America to this list.

#nevertrump

[Loran]

Swill
--
#n

Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

Sláva Ukrajíni! Glory to Ukraine!

Putin tse prezervatyv! Putin is a condom!

Go here to donate to Ukrainian relief.

Let's see you live up to your hypocritical pro-Ukraine smack talk and
join up and go serve on the front with Russia then, little man ball.

You gutless, failed solar city installer.

[Cindy Hamilton]

Post by dale zinram

Post by Cindy Hamilton

Post by Ed P
I see a couple of problems. Ease of getting drugs is a big one. Not
sure why so many people are dumb enough to use them.

Self-medicating for despair. Because of what you talk about in your

Thank innovation suffocating unions and short-sighted Democrats for both.

Post by Cindy Hamilton

Post by Ed P
As for affordability, the lower and medium classes are much different
than years ago. Yes, a big differential. With just a part high school
education, you could get a semi skilled job in a factory and make enough
to buy a modest used car, pay rent, groceries. Those jobs are now in
China or Mexico.

Offshored because
corporations want profits and can't think beyond the next quarter
consumers want low prices and can't think beyond Friday

Profits are how one stays in business.

Yep. But if consumers want lower prices and corporations want profits,
something's got to give. And it was American jobs.

[Governor Swill]

Post by Cindy Hamilton

Post by dale zinram

Post by Cindy Hamilton

Post by Ed P
I see a couple of problems. Ease of getting drugs is a big one. Not
sure why so many people are dumb enough to use them.

Self-medicating for despair. Because of what you talk about in your

Thank innovation suffocating unions and short-sighted Democrats for both.

Post by Cindy Hamilton

Post by Ed P
As for affordability, the lower and medium classes are much different
than years ago. Yes, a big differential. With just a part high school
education, you could get a semi skilled job in a factory and make enough
to buy a modest used car, pay rent, groceries. Those jobs are now in
China or Mexico.

Offshored because
corporations want profits and can't think beyond the next quarter
consumers want low prices and can't think beyond Friday

Profits are how one stays in business.

Yep. But if consumers want lower prices and corporations want profits,
something's got to give. And it was American jobs.

*applause*

Swill
--
#nevertrump

"Your reputation will be damaged as everybody's reputation is damaged who gets involved
with Donald Trump. He's damaged goods, There's no good dealing with him
because you will end up on the bottom of a pyre." - Steve Cohen to John Durham

Durham, Meadows, Cohen, Ellis, Eastman, Bobb, Giuliani, Lindell, Nauta

Let's not add America to this list.

#nevertrump

[Loran]

Post by Governor Swill
*applause*
Swill

Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

Sláva Ukrajíni! Glory to Ukraine!

Putin tse prezervatyv! Putin is a condom!

Go here to donate to Ukrainian relief.

Let's see you live up to your hypocritical pro-Ukraine smack talk and
join up and go serve on the front with Russia then, little man ball.

You gutless, failed solar city installer.

[Loran]

Post by Cindy Hamilton
But if consumers want lower prices and corporations want profits,
something's got to give. And it was American jobs.

Thanks to YOUR euro-bankster owned and controlled deep state!

[Loran]

Post by Cindy Hamilton

Post by Ed P
I see a couple of problems. Ease of getting drugs is a big one. Not
sure why so many people are dumb enough to use them.

Self-medicating for despair. Because of

...Institutional mind control and Illuminati-driven societal bankruptcy
- at all levels, monetary and moral.

Post by Cindy Hamilton
Offshored because
corporations want profits and can't think beyond the next quarter

Oligarchies are like that.

Post by Cindy Hamilton
consumers want low prices and can't think beyond Friday

Because they are on a taxatious and inflationary treadmill they can
never get off of.

YOUR GODDAMNED deep state made that happen, you twisted Marxist asshat!

[Cindy Hamilton]

Post by Loran

Post by Cindy Hamilton

Post by Ed P
I see a couple of problems. Ease of getting drugs is a big one. Not
sure why so many people are dumb enough to use them.

Self-medicating for despair. Because of

...Institutional mind control and Illuminati-driven societal bankruptcy
- at all levels, monetary and moral.

Sweetie, your tinfoil hat is slipping and the orbital mind-control
lasers are getting through.

[Loran]

Post by Cindy Hamilton

Post by Loran

Post by Cindy Hamilton

Post by Ed P
I see a couple of problems. Ease of getting drugs is a big one. Not
sure why so many people are dumb enough to use them.

Self-medicating for despair. Because of

...Institutional mind control and Illuminati-driven societal bankruptcy
- at all levels, monetary and moral.

Sweetie,

STFU you disingenuous marxist shitbird!

[Governor Swill]

Post by Ed P
I see a couple of problems. Ease of getting drugs is a big one. Not
sure why so many people are dumb enough to use them.
As for affordability, the lower and medium classes are much different
than years ago. Yes, a big differential. With just a part high school
education, you could get a semi skilled job in a factory and make enough
to buy a modest used car, pay rent, groceries. Those jobs are now in
China or Mexico.
More kids went to college. Some did very well, others took some
Interpretive Dance courses, racked up a lot of student debt, and are now
a barista or flipping burgers.
In "hours worked" money, we can buy a big TV much cheaper than our
parents could dream of, but the workers that made a decent wage to
assemble them are now overseas.
There are other factors. The landlord with a couple of modest
properties is being replaced by investment firms buying them up and
jacking rents, etc.

Such nuanced insight is rare on Usenet.

What it all boils down to remains, the rich are getting richer and the poor are getting
poorer.

Swill
--
#nevertrump

"Your reputation will be damaged as everybody's reputation is damaged who gets involved
with Donald Trump. He's damaged goods, There's no good dealing with him
because you will end up on the bottom of a pyre." - Steve Cohen to John Durham

Durham, Meadows, Cohen, Ellis, Eastman, Bobb, Giuliani, Lindell, Nauta

Let's not add America to this list.

#nevertrump

[Loran]

Post by Governor Swill
Swill
--
#nevertrump

Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

Sláva Ukrajíni! Glory to Ukraine!

Putin tse prezervatyv! Putin is a condom!

Go here to donate to Ukrainian relief.

Let's see you live up to your hypocritical pro-Ukraine smack talk and
join up and go serve on the front with Russia then, little man ball.

You gutless, failed solar city installer.

[Loran]

Post by Frank

Post by pothead

Post by useapen
The homeless population in Seattle grew by nearly 38 percent from 2020 to
2022, with about 7,620 people reported to be living outside in King
County.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12406201/US-spike-homeless-
people-record.html

And as long as Joe Biden and the democrats are in office, things will
only continue to get worse.
We are looking at a full scale depression in the future.

I keep reading article on the economy of things that the middle class
can no longer afford.  They mention stuff like housing, expensive
vacations, college education and new cars.
This is bound to push the lower class even lower.

I see a couple of problems.  Ease of getting drugs is a big one.  Not
sure why so many people are dumb enough to use them.

"Not sure"?

Are you for fucking real?

Because our leftarded indoctrination MSM glorifies and coaches them!

Just as the CIA brought LSD into the public experimentation big time in
the 1960s.

We're operating under massive institutional mind control.

As for affordability, the lower and medium classes are much different
than years ago. Yes, a big differential.  With just a part high school
education, you could get a semi skilled job in a factory and make enough
to buy a modest used car, pay rent, groceries.  Those jobs are now in
China or Mexico.

Because we let NAFTA send them away.

Ross Perot warned us...

More kids went to college.  Some did very well, others took some
Interpretive Dance courses, racked up a lot of student debt, and are now
a barista or flipping burgers.

Bad career choices apparently are correlative with "higher" education, true!

In "hours worked" money, we can buy a big TV much cheaper than our
parents could dream of, but the workers that made a decent wage to
assemble them are now overseas.

As our Illuminati masters decreed them to be.

There are other factors.  The landlord with a couple of modest
properties is being replaced by investment firms buying them up and
jacking rents, etc.

Far less prevalent nationally than you would care to admit:

https://www.bankrate.com/mortgages/investment-property-statistics/

Investment property statistics and tips
There are 19.95 million rental properties in the U.S. containing 48.2
million rental units, according to Census data.
About 70 percent of rental properties are owned by individual investors,
according to Census estimates.
For-profit corporations own around 18 percent of rental properties, but
45 percent of all units, Census estimates show.
Three-quarters (75.3 percent) of investment properties purchased in the
fourth quarter of 2021 were paid for in all cash, according to an
analysis by Redfin.
Lack of supply and rising prices are the two biggest challenges for
residential real estate investors in 2022, according to a RealtyTrac survey.
Around 34 percent of households live in rental housing, according to
Census data. Forty-two percent of those live in single-family homes,
while 36 percent live in apartments with five or more units. Almost half
(47 percent) of renters are under 30 years old.
The average monthly rent surpassed $2,000 in June 2022, according to Zillow.
The most expensive rental market in the U.S. as of June 2022 is San
Jose, California, with a monthly rent of $3,361, according to Zillow.
The least expensive is Youngstown, Ohio, at $960.
Sixteen percent of renters were behind on rent payments as of May 2022,
according to the National Equity Atlas.

While plenty of headlines have focused on corporations buying houses,
the vast majority of real estate investors are much smaller operations,
says Charles Tassell, chief operating officer of the National Real
Estate Investors Association. Most of the organization’s members own
between 14 and 40 units.

[Cindy Hamilton]

Post by Loran
Because we let NAFTA send them away.

NAFTA is a treaty. It doesn't employ anyone. It doesn't send jobs
anywhere. Employers did that.

[s sanders]

Post by Cindy Hamilton

Post by Loran
Because we let NAFTA send them away.

NAFTA is a treaty. It doesn't employ anyone. It doesn't send jobs
anywhere. Employers did that.

A bad treaty that resulted just as Ross Perot predicted it would.

[Governor Swill]

Post by s sanders

Post by Cindy Hamilton

Post by Loran
Because we let NAFTA send them away.

NAFTA is a treaty. It doesn't employ anyone. It doesn't send jobs
anywhere. Employers did that.

A bad treaty that resulted just as Ross Perot predicted it would.

That's why unemployment has skyrocketed to 3.8%.

Swill
--
We now have it from the horse's mouth that the Trumps are white supremacists.

Eric at a press conference in New York Wed, May 29, 2024
after his father's guilty verdict was handed down said:

"I cannot wait for the day that we win. We will. We're white. The country knows
that this is nonsense."
<https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/internet-roasting-eric-trump-viral-172538135.html>

(video at link)

Not left, not right, forward. https://www.forwardparty.com/

Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

Sláva Ukrajíni! Glory to Ukraine!

Putin tse prezervatyv! Putin is a condom!

Go here to donate to Ukrainian relief.
<https://www2.deloitte.com/ua/uk/pages/registration-forms/help-cities.html>

[jerry matson]

Post by Governor Swill

Post by s sanders

Post by Cindy Hamilton

Post by Loran
Because we let NAFTA send them away.

NAFTA is a treaty. It doesn't employ anyone. It doesn't send jobs
anywhere. Employers did that.

A bad treaty that resulted just as Ross Perot predicted it would.

That's why unemployment has skyrocketed to 3.8%.

You're not too bright as usual, swill. You lazy math-challenged liberals
always tout the U3 number which is a complete falsehood in terms of
representation. The overall employment rate in the USA is 60%, indicating
that 40% of the workforce is not employed for one reason or another. Half
of that 40% is comprised of liberals too stupid or lazy to get a job.
They aren't even smart enough to get into the military without an
educational waver now.

U3 only includes people out of work less than 6 months.

Anyone out of work 6 months or longer isn't even counted.

THE EMPLOYMENT SITUATION — APRIL 2024
https://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/empsit.pdf

Employment Rate 60.30 percent Apr 2024
https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/employment-rate

[Governor Swill]

Post by jerry matson
You're not too bright as usual, swill. You lazy math-challenged liberals
always tout the U3 number which is a complete falsehood in terms of
representation. The overall employment rate in the USA is 60%, indicating
that 40% of the workforce is not employed for one reason or another. Half
of that 40% is comprised of liberals too stupid or lazy to get a job.
They aren't even smart enough to get into the military without an
educational waver now.

I'd ask you to grow a brain but you wouldn't use it. 100% of the population does not
work, stupid.

The unemployment rate(s) counts workforce only, not every man, woman and child who draws
breath. A homemaker isn't counted as "unemployed". Nor are retirees, students or
capitalists living on the interest from their investments.

Swill
--
We now have it from the horse's mouth that the Trumps are white supremacists.

Eric at a press conference in New York Wed, May 29, 2024
after his father's guilty verdict was handed down said:

"I cannot wait for the day that we win. We will. We're white. The country knows
that this is nonsense."
<https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/internet-roasting-eric-trump-viral-172538135.html>

(video at link)

Not left, not right, forward. https://www.forwardparty.com/

Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

Sláva Ukrajíni! Glory to Ukraine!

Putin tse prezervatyv! Putin is a condom!

Go here to donate to Ukrainian relief.
<https://www2.deloitte.com/ua/uk/pages/registration-forms/help-cities.html>

[Loran]

Post by Governor Swill
I cannot wait

Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

Sláva Ukrajíni! Glory to Ukraine!

Putin tse prezervatyv! Putin is a condom!

Go here to donate to Ukrainian relief.

Let's see you live up to your hypocritical pro-Ukraine smack talk and
join up and go serve on the front with Russia then, little man ball.

You gutless, failed solar city installer.

[Loran]

Post by Governor Swill
We now have it

Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

Sláva Ukrajíni! Glory to Ukraine!

Putin tse prezervatyv! Putin is a condom!

Go here to donate to Ukrainian relief.

Let's see you live up to your hypocritical pro-Ukraine smack talk and
join up and go serve on the front with Russia then, little man ball.

You gutless, failed solar city installer.

[Charlie Glock]

Post by s sanders

Post by Cindy Hamilton

Post by Loran
Because we let NAFTA send them away.

NAFTA is a treaty. It doesn't employ anyone. It doesn't send jobs
anywhere. Employers did that.

A bad treaty that resulted just as Ross Perot predicted it would.

Perot was a visionary well ahead of his time.
When you give up control of manufacturing to offshore nations, you give up your sovereignty and
strength because you are dependent upon 3rd parties to sustain your interests.

If anything COVID should have taught us this.
But sadly it hasn't.

[Governor Swill]

Post by Charlie Glock
Perot was a visionary well ahead of his time.
When you give up control of manufacturing to offshore nations, you give up your sovereignty and
strength because you are dependent upon 3rd parties to sustain your interests.
If anything COVID should have taught us this.
But sadly it hasn't.

Yet the American economy boomed after NAFTA. The part you forget is that it opens up
foreign markets to American products without tariffs.

Swill
--
We now have it from the horse's mouth that the Trumps are white supremacists.

Eric at a press conference in New York Wed, May 29, 2024
after his father's guilty verdict was handed down said:

"I cannot wait for the day that we win. We will. We're white. The country knows
that this is nonsense."
<https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/internet-roasting-eric-trump-viral-172538135.html>

(video at link)

Not left, not right, forward. https://www.forwardparty.com/

Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

Sláva Ukrajíni! Glory to Ukraine!

Putin tse prezervatyv! Putin is a condom!

Go here to donate to Ukrainian relief.
<https://www2.deloitte.com/ua/uk/pages/registration-forms/help-cities.html>

[Loran]

Post by Governor Swill
Yet the American economy

Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

Sláva Ukrajíni! Glory to Ukraine!

Putin tse prezervatyv! Putin is a condom!

Go here to donate to Ukrainian relief.

Let's see you live up to your hypocritical pro-Ukraine smack talk and
join up and go serve on the front with Russia then, little man ball.

You gutless, failed solar city installer.

[Loran]

Post by Charlie Glock

Post by s sanders

Post by Cindy Hamilton

Post by Loran
Because we let NAFTA send them away.

NAFTA is a treaty. It doesn't employ anyone. It doesn't send jobs
anywhere. Employers did that.

A bad treaty that resulted just as Ross Perot predicted it would.

Perot was a visionary well ahead of his time.

And how.

Post by Charlie Glock
When you give up control of manufacturing to offshore nations, you give up your sovereignty and
strength because you are dependent upon 3rd parties to sustain your interests.

Thankfully we still have some domestic auto industry remaining.

Post by Charlie Glock
If anything COVID should have taught us this.
But sadly it hasn't.

True dat.

[Loran]

Post by Cindy Hamilton

Post by Loran
Because we let NAFTA send them away.

NAFTA is a treaty.

With terms to be met.

Post by Cindy Hamilton
It doesn't employ anyone.

Non sequitur as it causes employment choices to be remade.

Post by Cindy Hamilton
It doesn't send jobs anywhere.

It systemically coaches it.

Post by Cindy Hamilton
Employers did that.

After being coached into it.

You are a fat, lying leftarded whore, and nothing more:

https://www.thebalancemoney.com/disadvantages-of-nafta-3306273

U.S. Jobs Were Lost
Since labor is cheaper in Mexico, many manufacturing industries withdrew
part of their production from the high-cost United States. Between 1994
and 2010, the U.S. trade deficits with Mexico totaled $97.2 billion. In
the same period, 682,900 U.S. jobs went to Mexico. But 116,400 of those
jobs were displaced after 2007, meaning the 2008 financial crisis may
have played a role.1

Almost 80% of the losses were in manufacturing. The hardest-hit states
were California, New York, Michigan, and Texas. They had high
concentrations of the industries that moved plants to Mexico. These
industries included motor vehicles, textiles, computers, and electrical
appliances.2

U.S. Wages Were Suppressed
Not all companies in these industries moved to Mexico, but some used the
threat of moving as leverage against union-organizing drives. When
workers had to choose between joining the union and losing the factory,
workers chose the plant. Without union support, the workers had little
bargaining power. That suppressed wage growth.

According to Kate Bronfenbrenner of Cornell University, many companies
in industries that were moving to Mexico used the threat of closing the
factory.3 Between 1993 and 1999, 64% of U.S. manufacturing firms in
those industries used that threat. By 1999, the rate had grown to 71%.4

Mexico's Farmers Were Put Out of Business
Due to NAFTA, Mexico lost nearly 1.3 million farm jobs from 1994 to
2004.5 The 2002 Farm Bill subsidized U.S. agribusiness by as much as 40%
of net farm income.6 When NAFTA removed trade tariffs, companies
exported corn and other grains to Mexico below cost. Rural Mexican
farmers could not compete.

At the same time, Mexico reduced its subsidies to farmers from 33.2% of
total farm income in 1990 to 13.2% in 2001.7 Most of those subsidies
went to Mexico's large farms. These changes meant many small Mexican
farmers were put out of business by highly subsidized American farmers.

Maquiladora Workers Were Exploited
NAFTA expanded the maquiladora program by removing tariffs.8 This
program allows United States-owned companies to employ Mexican workers
near the border.9 They cheaply assemble products for export back into
the United States. The program grew to employ 30% of Mexico's labor
force. These worksites were known for abusing worker rights, with
reports of workdays lasting 12 hours or more and women being subjected
to pregnancy test when they applied for jobs.10

Mexico's Environment Deteriorated
In response to NAFTA’s competitive pressure, Mexican agribusiness used
more fertilizers and other chemicals, costing $36 billion per year in
pollution. Rural farmers expanded into marginal land, resulting in
deforestation at a rate of 630,000 hectares per year.11

NAFTA Called for Free U.S. Access for Mexican Trucks
Another harmful agreement within NAFTA was never implemented. NAFTA
would have allowed trucks from Mexico to travel within the United States
beyond the current 20-mile commercial zone limit. The Department of
Transportation (DOT) was set up a demonstration project to review the
practicality of this. In 2009, the House of Representatives terminated
this project, prohibiting the DOT from implementing it without
Congressional approval.12

Congress worried that Mexican trucks would have presented a road hazard
because they are not subject to the same safety standards as U.S.
trucks.13 U.S. truckers' organizations and companies opposed it because
they would have lost business.14 Currently, Mexican trucks must stop at
the commercial zone limit (usually no more than 20 miles in) and have
their goods transferred to U.S. trucks.15

There was also a question of reciprocity. The NAFTA agreement would have
allowed unlimited access for U.S. vehicles throughout Mexico. A similar
arrangement works well between the U.S. and its other NAFTA partner,
Canada. However, Mexican trucks can be significantly heavier than
American trucks, and many use a heavy-duty walking-beam suspension
system, potentially making them more damaging to American roads.16
USMCA
Partially because of these disadvantages, the United States, Mexico, and
Canada began renegotiating NAFTA on August 16, 2017. Negotiations among
the three countries concluded on September 30, 2018. The new deal is
called the "United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement."17 The U.S. Congress
finished passing the agreement on January 16, 2020, and two weeks later
President Donald Trump signed it. The agreement officially took the
place of NAFTA on July 1, 2020.

The Trump administration wanted to lower the trade deficit between the
United States and Mexico. The USMCA changes NAFTA in six areas. The most
important change is that auto companies must now manufacture at least
75% of the car's components in the USMCA's trade zone.18

[Cindy Hamilton]

Post by Loran

Post by Cindy Hamilton

Post by Loran
Because we let NAFTA send them away.

NAFTA is a treaty.

With terms to be met.

Post by Cindy Hamilton
It doesn't employ anyone.

Non sequitur as it causes employment choices to be remade.

Employers could choose to keep jobs in the U.S. They weren't forced by
NAFTA to offshore them. They wanted the money.

[Loran]

Post by Cindy Hamilton

Post by Loran

Post by Cindy Hamilton

Post by Loran
Because we let NAFTA send them away.

NAFTA is a treaty.

With terms to be met.

Post by Cindy Hamilton
It doesn't employ anyone.

Non sequitur as it causes employment choices to be remade.

Employers could choose to keep jobs in the U.S. They weren't forced by
NAFTA to offshore them. They wanted the money.

They were compelled by the market conditions that NAFTA caused to become
standardized, stop the lying.

No one can afford to be at a competitive disadvantage and make money.

This is how you globalists rig the game, but it has been documented.

https://www.investopedia.com/articles/economics/08/north-american-free-trade-agreement.asp

U.S. Immigration Numbers

Part of the justification for NAFTA was that it would reduce illegal
immigration from Mexico to the U.S. The number of Mexican immigrants—of
any legal status—living in the U.S. nearly doubled from 1980 to 1990.

Boosters argued that uniting the U.S. and Mexican markets would lead to
gradual convergence in wages and living standards, reducing Mexicans'
motive to cross the Rio Grande. Mexico's president at the time, Carlos
Salinas de Gortiari, said the country would "export goods, not people."


Instead, the number of Mexican immigrants more than doubled, again from
1990 to 2000 when it approached 9.4 million. According to the Pew
Research Center, the flow has reversed—at least temporarily. Between
2009 and 2014, 140,000 more Mexicans left the U.S. than entered it...

Which did what?

Depress wages in the USA!

Next.

[pothead]

Post by Frank

Post by pothead

Post by useapen
The United States has seen the biggest ever spike in homeless people
living on the streets - as preliminary figures showed a record 11 percent
increase in one year.
There are nearly 600,000 rough sleepers across cities and towns in
America, and the jump from 2022 to 2023 so far is the highest since the
government started tracking the data in 2007, according to the WSJ.
Places like Oakland and San Francisco in California have become hotbeds
for homelessness, as people living on the streets are like 'drug tourists'
who arrive to have easy access to narcotics.
The numbers keep increasing year-on-year in Los Angeles and Seattle too.
Using data from 300 entities that count the number of homeless people in
different vicinities, the WSJ estimated 577,000 people are sleeping rough
so far this year, compared with 582,462 in the whole of 2022.
Last year's total was up dramatically from the 380,630 recorded in 2021 -
a total the WSJ says is lower because of pandemic counting disruptions.
The Department of Housing and Urban Development is expected to publish
formal figures this year, but the preliminary study has shown how the
issues of crime, drug abuse, and lack of housing has exacerbated the
number of homelessness.
And the chronic homeless number for 2022 - categorized as people who have
a disabling condition who have been unhoused for a year or more - was
138,361.
This was up from 64,278 in 2021 - again thought to be lower than normal
due to pandemic counting disruptions.
During the pandemic, there were relief programs in place across the US to
ease the burden of housing issues - including eviction bans for renters -
but now with these schemes petering out, homelessness has become a more
acute problem.
Costs and the lack of available housing are also big issues - as well as
the migrant crisis.
In city centers like New York, an average of 2,300 migrants from the
border arrive weekly - putting a strain on housing and forcing many to
take to the streets.
Just last week, hundreds of people were forced to sleep outside the
Roosevelt Hotel in Midtown Manhattan for days while seeking temporary
housing facilities.
Seneca Scott, founder of Neighbors Together Oakland, told Fox about the
California cities: 'Oakland and San Francisco have become the promised
land of milk and fentanyl, and people are coming here.
'People who are homeless in Oakland now typically are not from here.
They’re drug tourists. They’re coming here for the safe and easy access to
their drug of choice and the ability to also steal to support those habits
because there’s no rule of law.
'Our homeless crisis has helped deteriorate our property value. If you
combine that with the eviction moratorium and other government policies,
we have a situation now where the property values of people are
plummeting.'
In Oakland, the homeless population has grown to over 5,000 - a 50 percent
increase - since 2015, according to city data.
The devastating homeless crisis is also tormenting downtown LA - where
filthy ramshackle tent cities are plagued by zombie-like residents smoking
drugs, while others hawk stolen goods on street corners.
There are currently an estimated 42,260 people sleeping rough in the City
of Angels - a startling 10 percent rise compared to just last year, Los
Angeles Homeless Services Authority reported.
Just this week, it emerged that the city had resorted to sending mobile
teams with oxygen cylinders to Skid Row in a desperate bid to prevent
overdoses amid its crippling opioid crisis.
Workers from the non profit Homeless Health Care Los Angeles are now
patrolling the streets among snaking lines of makeshift dwellings where
homeless people can be seen sleeping among the few belongings they own -
as others in dire health inject or smoke illicit substances.
The number of homeless people in LA has more than doubled in the past
decade.
There was a 9 percent rise in homelessness in Los Angeles County between
2022 and 2023, with the unhoused population now totaling 75,518 people,
according to the latest data from the LAHSA.
The city of Los Angeles saw an estimated 10 percent rise to a total of
46,260 people.
And in Seattle, residents were furious after hundreds of tiny homes meant
to house the homeless sit locked up in storage while sprawling homeless
encampments grow.
The King County Regional Homelessness Authority (KCRHA), the agency tasked
with coordinating homeless services in the city, has been put on blast for
the delay in deploying the miniature homes.
Komo News revealed that there are at least 204 unused homes that are
locked up and kept guarded by a fence, leaving people to sleep on the
streets.
The homeless population in Seattle grew by nearly 38 percent from 2020 to
2022, with about 7,620 people reported to be living outside in King
County.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12406201/US-spike-homeless-
people-record.html

And as long as Joe Biden and the democrats are in office, things will only continue to get worse.
We are looking at a full scale depression in the future.

I keep reading article on the economy of things that the middle class
can no longer afford. They mention stuff like housing, expensive
vacations, college education and new cars.
This is bound to push the lower class even lower.

That's the goal of the globalist elite.
A two class society.
The ultra wealthy, that's them, and the poor which is the rest of us.

[Rudy]

Post by pothead

Post by Frank

Post by pothead

Post by useapen
The United States has seen the biggest ever spike in homeless
people living on the streets - as preliminary figures showed a
record 11 percent increase in one year.
There are nearly 600,000 rough sleepers across cities and towns in
America, and the jump from 2022 to 2023 so far is the highest since
the government started tracking the data in 2007, according to the
WSJ.
Places like Oakland and San Francisco in California have become
hotbeds for homelessness, as people living on the streets are like
'drug tourists' who arrive to have easy access to narcotics.
The numbers keep increasing year-on-year in Los Angeles and Seattle too.
Using data from 300 entities that count the number of homeless
people in different vicinities, the WSJ estimated 577,000 people
are sleeping rough so far this year, compared with 582,462 in the
whole of 2022.
Last year's total was up dramatically from the 380,630 recorded in
2021 - a total the WSJ says is lower because of pandemic counting
disruptions.
The Department of Housing and Urban Development is expected to
publish formal figures this year, but the preliminary study has
shown how the issues of crime, drug abuse, and lack of housing has
exacerbated the number of homelessness.
And the chronic homeless number for 2022 - categorized as people
who have a disabling condition who have been unhoused for a year or
more - was 138,361.
This was up from 64,278 in 2021 - again thought to be lower than
normal due to pandemic counting disruptions.
During the pandemic, there were relief programs in place across the
US to ease the burden of housing issues - including eviction bans
for renters - but now with these schemes petering out, homelessness
has become a more acute problem.
Costs and the lack of available housing are also big issues - as
well as the migrant crisis.
In city centers like New York, an average of 2,300 migrants from
the border arrive weekly - putting a strain on housing and forcing
many to take to the streets.
Just last week, hundreds of people were forced to sleep outside the
Roosevelt Hotel in Midtown Manhattan for days while seeking
temporary housing facilities.
Seneca Scott, founder of Neighbors Together Oakland, told Fox about
the California cities: 'Oakland and San Francisco have become the
promised land of milk and fentanyl, and people are coming here.
'People who are homeless in Oakland now typically are not from
here. They’re drug tourists. They’re coming here for the safe and
easy access to their drug of choice and the ability to also steal
to support those habits because there’s no rule of law.
'Our homeless crisis has helped deteriorate our property value. If
you combine that with the eviction moratorium and other government
policies, we have a situation now where the property values of
people are plummeting.'
In Oakland, the homeless population has grown to over 5,000 - a 50
percent increase - since 2015, according to city data.
The devastating homeless crisis is also tormenting downtown LA -
where filthy ramshackle tent cities are plagued by zombie-like
residents smoking drugs, while others hawk stolen goods on street
corners.
There are currently an estimated 42,260 people sleeping rough in
the City of Angels - a startling 10 percent rise compared to just
last year, Los Angeles Homeless Services Authority reported.
Just this week, it emerged that the city had resorted to sending
mobile teams with oxygen cylinders to Skid Row in a desperate bid
to prevent overdoses amid its crippling opioid crisis.
Workers from the non profit Homeless Health Care Los Angeles are
now patrolling the streets among snaking lines of makeshift
dwellings where homeless people can be seen sleeping among the few
belongings they own - as others in dire health inject or smoke
illicit substances.
The number of homeless people in LA has more than doubled in the
past decade.
There was a 9 percent rise in homelessness in Los Angeles County
between 2022 and 2023, with the unhoused population now totaling
75,518 people, according to the latest data from the LAHSA.
The city of Los Angeles saw an estimated 10 percent rise to a total
of 46,260 people.
And in Seattle, residents were furious after hundreds of tiny homes
meant to house the homeless sit locked up in storage while
sprawling homeless encampments grow.
The King County Regional Homelessness Authority (KCRHA), the agency
tasked with coordinating homeless services in the city, has been
put on blast for the delay in deploying the miniature homes.
Komo News revealed that there are at least 204 unused homes that
are locked up and kept guarded by a fence, leaving people to sleep
on the streets.
The homeless population in Seattle grew by nearly 38 percent from
2020 to 2022, with about 7,620 people reported to be living outside
in King County.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12406201/US-spike-homeless-
people-record.html

And as long as Joe Biden and the democrats are in office, things
will only continue to get worse. We are looking at a full scale
depression in the future.

I keep reading article on the economy of things that the middle class
can no longer afford. They mention stuff like housing, expensive
vacations, college education and new cars.
This is bound to push the lower class even lower.

That's the goal of the globalist elite.
A two class society.
The ultra wealthy, that's them, and the poor which is the rest of us.

A war would help solve that issue. Of course that would raise taxes while
Putin is slowly doing to the US what Reagan did to Russia, as Democrats
have their heads up their asses promoting unwanted, unprofitable,
unhealthy homosexuality and transgender stupidity.

[Governor Swill]

<snip>

Post by Rudy

Post by pothead

Post by Frank

Post by pothead

Post by useapen
The homeless population in Seattle grew by nearly 38 percent from
2020 to 2022, with about 7,620 people reported to be living outside
in King County.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12406201/US-spike-homeless-
people-record.html

Why are you citing a European tabloid? Might as well read the National Enquirer.

Post by Rudy

Post by pothead

Post by Frank

Post by pothead
And as long as Joe Biden and the democrats are in office, things
will only continue to get worse. We are looking at a full scale
depression in the future.

Goodness knows Bush tried that but Obama and the Fed managed to stop the collapse.

Post by Rudy

Post by pothead

Post by Frank
I keep reading article on the economy of things that the middle class
can no longer afford. They mention stuff like housing, expensive
vacations, college education and new cars.
This is bound to push the lower class even lower.

That's the goal of the globalist elite.

Aka, Republicans.

Post by Rudy

Post by pothead
A two class society.
The ultra wealthy, that's them, and the poor which is the rest of us.

A war would help solve that issue. Of course that would raise taxes while
Putin is slowly doing to the US what Reagan did to Russia,

Not going to happen. He simply doesn't have the resources. He's already pulling defense
systems out of Kaliningrad and the east to shore up his ill advised venture in Ukraine. In
effect, we're *still* doing to him what Reagan did - we're out spending Russia.

Post by Rudy
as Democrats
have their heads up their asses promoting unwanted, unprofitable,
unhealthy homosexuality and transgender stupidity.

When you're standing on the assembly line making the same goods, what difference does it
make who the guy next to you is sleeping with?

Swill
--
#nevertrump

"Your reputation will be damaged as everybody's reputation is damaged who gets involved
with Donald Trump. He's damaged goods, There's no good dealing with him
because you will end up on the bottom of a pyre." - Steve Cohen to John Durham

Durham, Meadows, Cohen, Ellis, Eastman, Bobb, Giuliani, Lindell, Nauta

Let's not add America to this list.

#nevertrump

[Loran]

Post by Governor Swill
Let's not ad

Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

Sláva Ukrajíni! Glory to Ukraine!

Putin tse prezervatyv! Putin is a condom!

Go here to donate to Ukrainian relief.

Let's see you live up to your hypocritical pro-Ukraine smack talk and
join up and go serve on the front with Russia then, little man ball.

You gutless, failed solar city installer.

[Loran]

Post by Rudy

Post by pothead
That's the goal of the globalist elite.
A two class society.
The ultra wealthy, that's them, and the poor which is the rest of us.

A war would help solve that issue.

Deep state asset logged.

[Loran]

Post by Frank

Post by pothead

Post by useapen
The United States has seen the biggest ever spike in homeless people
living on the streets - as preliminary figures showed a record 11 percent
increase in one year.
There are nearly 600,000 rough sleepers across cities and towns in
America, and the jump from 2022 to 2023 so far is the highest since the
government started tracking the data in 2007, according to the WSJ.
Places like Oakland and San Francisco in California have become hotbeds
for homelessness, as people living on the streets are like 'drug tourists'
who arrive to have easy access to narcotics.
The numbers keep increasing year-on-year in Los Angeles and Seattle too.
Using data from 300 entities that count the number of homeless people in
different vicinities, the WSJ estimated 577,000 people are sleeping rough
so far this year, compared with 582,462 in the whole of 2022.
Last year's total was up dramatically from the 380,630 recorded in 2021 -
a total the WSJ says is lower because of pandemic counting disruptions.
The Department of Housing and Urban Development is expected to publish
formal figures this year, but the preliminary study has shown how the
issues of crime, drug abuse, and lack of housing has exacerbated the
number of homelessness.
And the chronic homeless number for 2022 - categorized as people who have
a disabling condition who have been unhoused for a year or more - was
138,361.
This was up from 64,278 in 2021 - again thought to be lower than normal
due to pandemic counting disruptions.
During the pandemic, there were relief programs in place across the US to
ease the burden of housing issues - including eviction bans for renters -
but now with these schemes petering out, homelessness has become a more
acute problem.
Costs and the lack of available housing are also big issues - as well as
the migrant crisis.
In city centers like New York, an average of 2,300 migrants from the
border arrive weekly - putting a strain on housing and forcing many to
take to the streets.
Just last week, hundreds of people were forced to sleep outside the
Roosevelt Hotel in Midtown Manhattan for days while seeking temporary
housing facilities.
Seneca Scott, founder of Neighbors Together Oakland, told Fox about the
California cities: 'Oakland and San Francisco have become the promised
land of milk and fentanyl, and people are coming here.
'People who are homeless in Oakland now typically are not from here.
They’re drug tourists. They’re coming here for the safe and easy access to
their drug of choice and the ability to also steal to support those habits
because there’s no rule of law.
'Our homeless crisis has helped deteriorate our property value. If you
combine that with the eviction moratorium and other government policies,
we have a situation now where the property values of people are
plummeting.'
In Oakland, the homeless population has grown to over 5,000 - a 50 percent
increase - since 2015, according to city data.
The devastating homeless crisis is also tormenting downtown LA - where
filthy ramshackle tent cities are plagued by zombie-like residents smoking
drugs, while others hawk stolen goods on street corners.
There are currently an estimated 42,260 people sleeping rough in the City
of Angels - a startling 10 percent rise compared to just last year, Los
Angeles Homeless Services Authority reported.
Just this week, it emerged that the city had resorted to sending mobile
teams with oxygen cylinders to Skid Row in a desperate bid to prevent
overdoses amid its crippling opioid crisis.
Workers from the non profit Homeless Health Care Los Angeles are now
patrolling the streets among snaking lines of makeshift dwellings where
homeless people can be seen sleeping among the few belongings they own -
as others in dire health inject or smoke illicit substances.
The number of homeless people in LA has more than doubled in the past
decade.
There was a 9 percent rise in homelessness in Los Angeles County between
2022 and 2023, with the unhoused population now totaling 75,518 people,
according to the latest data from the LAHSA.
The city of Los Angeles saw an estimated 10 percent rise to a total of
46,260 people.
And in Seattle, residents were furious after hundreds of tiny homes meant
to house the homeless sit locked up in storage while sprawling homeless
encampments grow.
The King County Regional Homelessness Authority (KCRHA), the agency tasked
with coordinating homeless services in the city, has been put on blast for
the delay in deploying the miniature homes.
Komo News revealed that there are at least 204 unused homes that are
locked up and kept guarded by a fence, leaving people to sleep on the
streets.
The homeless population in Seattle grew by nearly 38 percent from 2020 to
2022, with about 7,620 people reported to be living outside in King
County.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12406201/US-spike-homeless-
people-record.html

And as long as Joe Biden and the democrats are in office, things will
only continue to get worse.
We are looking at a full scale depression in the future.

I keep reading article on the economy of things that the middle class
can no longer afford.  They mention stuff like housing, expensive
vacations, college education and new cars.
This is bound to push the lower class even lower.

Straight down into our new open borders wage slave demographic -
Venezuelans!

[Governor Swill]

Post by pothead
And as long as Joe Biden and the democrats are in office, things will only continue to get worse.
We are looking at a full scale depression in the future.

We're building the economy back to where it would have been if Bush and the Republicans
hadn't crashed the global economy in 2008.

The interest rates you whine about are still lower than they were during the boom nineties
before the GOP got their hands on the economy.

The only valid economic issue you have is inflation which can be laid squarely at the feet
of Donald Trump and his Congresses. They injected over FOUR TRILLION dollars into the
economy in just over six months.

Thank you for the ten dollar eggs, Mr Trump.

Swill
--
#nevertrump

"Your reputation will be damaged as everybody's reputation is damaged who gets involved
with Donald Trump. He's damaged goods, There's no good dealing with him
because you will end up on the bottom of a pyre." - Steve Cohen to John Durham

Durham, Meadows, Cohen, Ellis, Eastman, Bobb, Giuliani, Lindell, Nauta

Let's not add America to this list.

#nevertrump

[Loran]

Post by Governor Swill
Thank you for the ten dollar eggs, Mr Trump.
Swill

FUCKING LIAR!

https://www.biden-mart.com/

Milk/gallon:

YOUR BILL
UNDER TRUMP

$2.16


YOUR BILL
UNDER BIDEN

$3.19

PERCENT
INCREASE

47.69 %

Eggs/dozen:

YOUR BILL
UNDER TRUMP

$2.12


YOUR BILL
UNDER BIDEN

$2.88

PERCENT
INCREASE

35.85 %


SOURCE: USDA DATA, JANUARY 2021 AND JANUARY 2024​​

[Intelligent Party]

Post by useapen
The United States has seen the biggest ever spike in homeless people
living on the streets - as preliminary figures showed a record 11 percent
increase in one year.
There are nearly 600,000 rough sleepers across cities and towns in
America, and the jump from 2022 to 2023 so far is the highest since the
government started tracking the data in 2007, according to the WSJ.
Places like Oakland and San Francisco in California have become hotbeds
for homelessness, as people living on the streets are like 'drug tourists'
who arrive to have easy access to narcotics.
The numbers keep increasing year-on-year in Los Angeles and Seattle too.
Using data from 300 entities that count the number of homeless people in
different vicinities, the WSJ estimated 577,000 people are sleeping rough
so far this year, compared with 582,462 in the whole of 2022.
Last year's total was up dramatically from the 380,630 recorded in 2021 -
a total the WSJ says is lower because of pandemic counting disruptions.
The Department of Housing and Urban Development is expected to publish
formal figures this year, but the preliminary study has shown how the
issues of crime, drug abuse, and lack of housing has exacerbated the
number of homelessness.
And the chronic homeless number for 2022 - categorized as people who have
a disabling condition who have been unhoused for a year or more - was
138,361.
This was up from 64,278 in 2021 - again thought to be lower than normal
due to pandemic counting disruptions.
During the pandemic, there were relief programs in place across the US to
ease the burden of housing issues - including eviction bans for renters -
but now with these schemes petering out, homelessness has become a more
acute problem.
Costs and the lack of available housing are also big issues - as well as
the migrant crisis.
In city centers like New York, an average of 2,300 migrants from the
border arrive weekly - putting a strain on housing and forcing many to
take to the streets.
Just last week, hundreds of people were forced to sleep outside the
Roosevelt Hotel in Midtown Manhattan for days while seeking temporary
housing facilities.
Seneca Scott, founder of Neighbors Together Oakland, told Fox about the
California cities: 'Oakland and San Francisco have become the promised
land of milk and fentanyl, and people are coming here.
'People who are homeless in Oakland now typically are not from here.
They’re drug tourists. They’re coming here for the safe and easy access to
their drug of choice and the ability to also steal to support those habits
because there’s no rule of law.
'Our homeless crisis has helped deteriorate our property value. If you
combine that with the eviction moratorium and other government policies,
we have a situation now where the property values of people are
plummeting.'
In Oakland, the homeless population has grown to over 5,000 - a 50 percent
increase - since 2015, according to city data.
The devastating homeless crisis is also tormenting downtown LA - where
filthy ramshackle tent cities are plagued by zombie-like residents smoking
drugs, while others hawk stolen goods on street corners.
There are currently an estimated 42,260 people sleeping rough in the City
of Angels - a startling 10 percent rise compared to just last year, Los
Angeles Homeless Services Authority reported.
Just this week, it emerged that the city had resorted to sending mobile
teams with oxygen cylinders to Skid Row in a desperate bid to prevent
overdoses amid its crippling opioid crisis.
Workers from the non profit Homeless Health Care Los Angeles are now
patrolling the streets among snaking lines of makeshift dwellings where
homeless people can be seen sleeping among the few belongings they own -
as others in dire health inject or smoke illicit substances.
The number of homeless people in LA has more than doubled in the past
decade.
There was a 9 percent rise in homelessness in Los Angeles County between
2022 and 2023, with the unhoused population now totaling 75,518 people,
according to the latest data from the LAHSA.
The city of Los Angeles saw an estimated 10 percent rise to a total of
46,260 people.
And in Seattle, residents were furious after hundreds of tiny homes meant
to house the homeless sit locked up in storage while sprawling homeless
encampments grow.
The King County Regional Homelessness Authority (KCRHA), the agency tasked
with coordinating homeless services in the city, has been put on blast for
the delay in deploying the miniature homes.
Komo News revealed that there are at least 204 unused homes that are
locked up and kept guarded by a fence, leaving people to sleep on the
streets.
The homeless population in Seattle grew by nearly 38 percent from 2020 to
2022, with about 7,620 people reported to be living outside in King
County.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12406201/US-spike-homeless-
people-record.html

Raise the minimum wage to 60% per capita GDP. In California 60% of
$100,000, $60,000, $30 an hour, to keep up with inflation, and route out
underemployment. This is the bottom of the lower class, and should be
about 50% per capita GDP after taxes. Transfer free cash to the
nonearners of 25% per capita GDP, or 50% the minimum wage, after taxes,
(whether they pay taxes on it or get nontaxable charity), and sell drugs
out of sight out of mind, in pharmacies legally, marketed as medicine,
with more warnings and advice on the labels.

Seriously, what drugs would be the problem? It's equivalent to a drunk,
and no one is doing drugs more potent that liquor if they can get their
hands on the less potent varieties, except because they're uninformed
and stupid.

The war on drugs has horrifyingly shut down our pharmacies.

"Drugs" is a broad term, too unspecific to the following ten categories:

1. Alcohol (liquor is the devil's drug and the cause of AA. if one
drinks liquor more than twice per week. 25 million alcoholics have 10
or more drinks per day, 165 million users total of all alcohol types.
While the 18th Amendment was supposedly passed by Christians, Jesus
turned water into wine).
2. Marijuana (like beer, but probably causes cancer like cigarettes)
3. Cocaine (like liquor the devil's drug, yet no one would do Crack).
4. Psychedelics (Mushrooms the optimum choice over the others and may
save mankind, if one microdoses for a full year, without hallucinating,
just a hypothesis, like being on one beer, and don't crash your car, no
I don't do this, it's just a thought that it may connect you to the
intergalactic intelligence agency (or it may turn you loopy like
Radagast, no idea)). Psychedlics are non-addictive, and better for
meditating/spirituality in your room, or in some known safe nature park,
than at party.

So those above four, are almost the only viable recreational drugs, period.

5. Amphetamines (Speed, yet no one would do Crystal Meth).
6. Ecstasy
7. Opiates (The body turns Codeine into Morphine, no one would be doing
Heroin or Fentanyl).

8. PCP (Angel Dust, batshit crazy).
9. Benzodiazepines (Valium, not party drugs)
10. Huffing (20 paints and solvents anyone can buy at the hardware store)


As to the minimum wage, while per capita GDP is now $100,000 in
California, (as California has grown faster than the rest of the nation)
per capita GDP is, or should be, the middle of the lower class.
While the bottom of the lower class is about 60% of the middle, as
$60,000 / $100,000 = 60%, and $50,000 / $75,000 = 66%. I like to use
63.33%, but will settle for 60% if I must, one or the other, as a
general ongoing percent principle. Keep in mind PER WORKER GDP is about
2.5 times $100,000, or nearly middle-middle class. If all workers
earned this, no one would earn anything more. Doesn't mean you should
limit yourself, in a an unfair world, that's either unfair to you, or
unfair in your favor, until we get some equitable
legislation/intelligence going, far better than Karl Marx.

In California based on $100,000 per capita GDP, (adjust for other states
based on their per capita gdp):

Lower Class:
$60,000
$75,000
$100,000
$125,000
$150,000

Middle Class
$200,000
$250,000
$300,000
$400,000
$500,000

Upper Class
$600,000
$750,000
$1,000,000
$1,250,000
$1,500,000

That's how high it is now, thanks to inflation. Incomes should be
raised from the bottom up, to keep up with inflation. The free market
isn't perfect and regulation in the form of consumer and employee
protections is needed. The minimum wage falls under that regulation.